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jokerdanny
my other bio is a macro
02:12 PM on 03/14/2012
a few days ago we learned that tokyo was in danger when the tsunami hit and the nuclear fuel began melting and the japanese gov't decided not to tell anyone because tokyo could not be evacuated and it would just cause panic...so, what happens if a tsunami hits the crippled reactor tomorrow, or the next day, or next year...given that it's going to take 50 years to completely contain the damaged reactor, do we know what another tsunami would do and if it would affect tokyo?...would they even tell us the truth if we asked the question today?
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storgrisdemo
Antique Democrat
02:56 PM on 03/14/2012
Look at a map of Tokyo and you can see that it will not be hit by major tsunami, because of land built off shore that protects the bay and blocks the shoreline areas of Tokyo and Yokohama.. But the airport will be mostly destroyed, and perhaps the new bridge that goes to the airport..
jokerdanny
my other bio is a macro
03:29 PM on 03/14/2012
you missed my point, perhaps i didn't add enough detail, the japanese gov't admitted a few days ago that tokyo was in danger of radioactive fallout because the nuclear reactors that were hit by last year's tsunami on the east coast had come within hours of total meltdown and nuclear expolsion and atmospheric drift; my question is if that was the case then, does the fact that the reactors have been damaged leave them more vulnerable to tsunami or less or the same?
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mbkeefer
Elder Amateur Scientist
06:26 PM on 03/14/2012
You got the wrong message from the story. Tokyo was not in danger. The possibility was disscussed. But, there was no real danger to Tokyo just as there was no real danger to anyone on the West coast of the US from the iodine 131 that got relesased.
jokerdanny
my other bio is a macro
09:27 AM on 03/15/2012
no, you got the wrong message, perhaps because the article didn't cover the entire story, which i saw recently on pbs; the company in charge of the nuclear plant told the prime minister that they were pulling their people out, and the prime minister ordered them back in; according to scientists today, but for that action by the prime minister the plant would have completely melted down and tokyo would have been in danger
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Big Horn Man
Your anger can be your worst enemy ...
01:33 PM on 03/14/2012
Oh, boy. Not good. Where would the Japanese go if their island is sinking? Maybe their volcano would keep erupting more than expected. The earth are still reeling with the increased sun heat that may be the result of global warming climate. Not the man-made resource consumption. Perhaps the volcanoes around the world may spew out the heat to cool off the inner earth.
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mbkeefer
Elder Amateur Scientist
06:35 PM on 03/14/2012
If their volcanos start erupting then the island it is located on would grow. The solar output was below average from before 2004 to after 2009 due to an extended solar minimum. We are just now moving into a soar maximum where the solar output will be a small fraction of 1% above average for a while. Some small part of the global warming the takes place for the next few years can be due to increased heat from the sun. But, what is your excuse for the last decade when solar output was mostly below normal.
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Mickey Bitsko
Your sink is shipping
01:32 PM on 03/14/2012
That's eerily coincidental
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corvetter89
Why the long face?
01:09 PM on 03/14/2012
I hope he is wrong, but edgar cace predicted the greater portion of japan will sink into the ocean..... all this tectonic activity recently has me wondering.....
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01:46 PM on 03/14/2012
Between the Mayans and Edgar Cayce, I guess we're all just completely doomed...
o.0
02:33 PM on 03/14/2012
The Mayans just said we're starting a new cycle in 2012. No "gloom and doom" intended. Gotta check Nostradamus, though. He had the WTC nailed.
02:34 PM on 03/14/2012
Agreed AnneWest, superstition is a frightening comforter!
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Nardac
02:22 PM on 03/14/2012
But he also predicted that Atlantis would come back or the world would end before 2000, or any number of crazy predictions, none of which came through, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Several grains.
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tauzero0
Where was I before I was born?
03:16 PM on 03/14/2012
I've looked into purchasing an entire salt mine.
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bdoug25000
Bio? Nope, Mostly mechanical
12:58 PM on 03/14/2012
Japan Rocks!
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eltito
01:20 PM on 03/14/2012
...unfortunately for all the wrong reasons!
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storgrisdemo
Antique Democrat
02:58 PM on 03/14/2012
lol... Japan is ichi-ban ....
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Phyllis Kunz
12:52 PM on 03/14/2012
Japan and Russia, still sparring over Kuriles 67 years after WW11, still need each other.
As for the use of the Atomic Bomb, it was War and we had to expect it. Shikata ga nai
corresponding to Russia's nichevo
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Mickey Bitsko
Your sink is shipping
01:34 PM on 03/14/2012
@Phyllis- Irrelevant and unrelated.

This is everything about a natural phenomena and not geo-political in nature.
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Phyllis Kunz
02:08 PM on 03/14/2012
Okay, but I would be remiss if I did not include German "Da ist nichts zu machen
12:51 PM on 03/14/2012
Poor Japan...They just keep getting hit :( Pray for Japan!
12:39 PM on 03/14/2012
japan has earthquakes everyday and 5.0 often. The odds are they will have big ones occasionally. yet they still have a civilization there.
12:35 PM on 03/14/2012
I felt the trimmer/quake in 68' out that way...is that an aftershoke too...that whole region down to the Philippeans is one big fault line. They choose to live in that zone...so be it!!
01:11 PM on 03/14/2012
Um, it's where they evolved man. It's kind of hard to just up and move your whole species. Besides, it's not like there are a lot of great places to move your culture. The Israeli's tried it, and look how well that is going....
02:06 PM on 03/14/2012
Yeah, their ancestors chose it more than 10,000 years ago lol And yes, I believe they choose to live there in spite that lots of them have enough money to move out. Some countries have culture of thousand years which they have nurtured and loved, and couldn't just trade off for an easier life.
02:41 PM on 03/14/2012
It could be worse: The could be living in New York City.
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storgrisdemo
Antique Democrat
03:03 PM on 03/14/2012
True, and there are sever Shinto shrines in Japan that are more than a thousand years old, not one of them have suffered ji-shin damage.. and not one nail in that ancient wood... the most peaceful and beautiful places to spend the day..
imonlyhereforthelaughs
Politicians...they ruin everything.
12:27 PM on 03/14/2012
Ooooo no!
There goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla
Oooweeooooweeoooeee!
01:21 PM on 03/14/2012
Not really funny.
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Mickey Bitsko
Your sink is shipping
01:35 PM on 03/14/2012
Stay strong Japan, despite some low witted comments.
12:14 PM on 03/14/2012
Japan has had more than their share of tragedy! Keep them in your prayers!
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Willie Livingston
12:02 PM on 03/14/2012
Why dont all earthquakes cause big tsunamis? Why is this considered and after shock of an earthquake from a year ago? To me, two seperate earthquakes are just that.........especially if they are a year apart.
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HBobedajr
Plus que change,plus c'est la meme chose!
12:46 PM on 03/14/2012
I agree, Willie, any seismic event which is stronger than magnitude 4.0,should be considered a "new quake",especially when it occurs more than a year later.
It makes you wonder... If Japan would have had a magnitude 9.8 quake on Wednesday,would they be stupid enough to call that an "aftershock" too?
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noavailusernames
01:48 PM on 03/14/2012
willie, hbob - Are you geologists currently or formerly employed by he USGS?
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CTAndrews
I'm affraid that's not tea you've been drinking...
01:02 PM on 03/14/2012
It is an aftershock if it happens on the same part of a fault line as a previous quake, and it is not larger than the original.

Only VERY large quakes, near a shoreline, on a subduction fault (up/down movement) will cause a significant tsunami.
12:00 PM on 03/14/2012
Durn it Japan! Stop living on a fault line! O_o
11:59 AM on 03/14/2012
(to administrators) Nevermind, don't approve that last one, or this one. I'd like it if you approved this next one though.