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10:40 PM on 10/20/2008
Keli, Thank you for an excellent article.
10:39 PM on 10/20/2008
I knew this would be a long road for Obama but sheesh louise this is ridiculous!! Isnt Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh the main people screaming america isnt racist anymore? So why are they the main ones pulling th race card? Why dont they want to except the fact that america as a whole has moved beyond colors and creeds? Are they mad that there is a man that doesnt look like them able to surpass anything they have been able to accomplish and and do it with such dignity and grace that nobody in their right mind can deny? Well here is a memo to rush, sara, jon, and pat: No matter how you try Gods Will will be done. Keep spewing your lies and hate because in the end your children, grandchildren and greatgrandchildren will be looking up to him and thriving to be like him THEIR PRESIDENT!!!!! So HATE ON HATERS it makes his strut so much more worth watching!!!!!
10:12 PM on 10/20/2008
I could not agree with you sentiments more, Keli. The United States is undergoing a change. Intolerant, radical pundits will probably always be around. But the era in which such punditry is widely accepted by the public at large seems to be coming to a close. People like Pat and Rush speak to a very specific audience: conservative, older white men. Here's the problem with their stratagey: old, conservative white men are losing their power, and will continue losing it as this country becomes a younger, more culturally diverse nation. In 50 to 100 years from now, when the U.S. is no longer a predominantly "white" nation, people like Rush Limbaugh simply won't have the audience to support them that they currently enjoy.
10:07 PM on 10/20/2008
Nothing can diminish their reputation. They have a loyal following of hard core idiots, who are not deterred from their opinions by anything that happens in the real world (much less requires them to think logically).
11:13 PM on 10/20/2008
And, unfortunately these hard core idiots will raise their children to be hard racist idiots.
09:51 PM on 10/20/2008
I am quite proud of Colin Powell for openly and thunderously supporting Barack Obama despite the obvious Johnny-come-lately phenomenon involved. Powell lives and learns, and his learning and realizations are being applied to the current state of affairs in which nearly perfect Obama is poised to become America's next president. In his endorsement of Obama, Powell has clearly seized the moment that suggests a steadily burgeoning consciousness among the American people.
09:50 PM on 10/20/2008
I am outraged at the comments of these two men, not to mention the outright racism at the mcPalin rallies. As Colin Powell said it's time for a new generation. Maybe a new generation can see beyond these old men trying to instill hate in people.

Please Vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:46 PM on 10/20/2008
If there are two people in this world who would not persuade me to believe anything they might say it would Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan both are all air or blowhards. If Collin Powell is offended by these two they should serve their country like he has in the Military like General Powell.
09:34 PM on 10/20/2008
MSNBC should ditch Pat Buchanan. But they keep him because it provides a conservative counterpoint to Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. It's the equivalent of CNN's decision to keep Bill Bennett as a conservative counterpoint - despite Bennett's incendiary comments years ago about "aborting black babies to lower crime": http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006.

In fact, I remember when Buchanan told Kelli Goff to "shut up" on Dan Abrams' show back in early Summer when the issue of "race" came up. Rachel Maddow, who was sitting next to Kelli, took Buchanan to task and remarked that in all of her years of watching him, she had never witnessed him telling anyone to "shut up". Buchanan was clearly out of bounds, but refused to apologize. So there is more than enough to ditch Buchanan. I mean, this is the guy who believes that AMerica needs to be "90% white again": http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/buchanan-white-country/

So we should not seriously invest anything the wankerific Buchanan has to say about race. Colin Powell supported Obama because he was the better candidate. Buchanan just believe blacks ALWAYS support each other. And this belief is false. It is just absolutely insidious to believe that on every issue, in every instance, black people are just 100% in the tank for each other. Nothing can be further from the truth.
10:12 PM on 10/20/2008
The original inhabitants of North America were native Indians. They may wish for America to be like that again??

The world moves evolves and changes. That is what progressive means.
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10:14 PM on 10/20/2008
I too recall Buchanan telling Ms. Goff to "shut up" but wasn't it on Mathew's Hardball? And it was Rachel Maddow who called Buchanan out saying it was not appropriate...I was so upset that Chris Mathews didn't do that himself!! It was a shocking, abhorant moment. It froze in time and was seered in my memory - not only for telling a woman to shut up but a black woman - it was like Ms. Goff says, like Buchanan was stuck in the 60s when he probably thought he was "entitled" to behave in this way.
09:26 PM on 10/20/2008
Why are Palin's children with her so much? Is there no school in Alaska this time of the year? Or are her children being home-schooled with teachers that are traveling with the campaign?

I'm constantly amazed at the free press and advertisement that McCain and Palin receive, when compared to the Obama-Biden campaign. It's very interesting.....indeed.

Pat-GA
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11:44 PM on 10/20/2008
Wasn't it weird how she came out this weekend a totin' lil' Trig awkwardly in front of her like a prop, posed with him for a few seconds, and then just handed him off to someone else?
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Professor73
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09:18 PM on 10/20/2008
When you examine the record you will find that the person that lost creditability was unfortunately General Powell. The good news is he at least did it to himself.
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wesinohio
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10:20 PM on 10/20/2008
With you, yes. A person who is on the wrong side of history this time. I hope you fare better next time in your attempt to be smart, by being smart.
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10:29 PM on 10/20/2008
it must hurt to lose.
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09:06 PM on 10/20/2008
Wonder what they'll do if they ever find out who Condi's voting for. It's fun to watch these guys squirm and have even their formerly loyal listeners being tired of their BS.
09:51 PM on 10/20/2008
Condi can stay a bushee forever....black people know who who in the government have their best interests in mind.........both Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas can stay with their republican friends.....I suspect they will feel like CP did and decide I must speak out at sometime in their life...or maybe they will not......when I saw CP speak yesterday I saw a man who was looking for redemption.....he may have had a hard time sleeping at night...
08:54 PM on 10/20/2008
The racial mentality of the reactionary right has become impossibly arcane, not to say delusional.

As Freud observed, for every repression there's a payoff; and the repression of the easy, open, de jure racism the Limbaughs and Buchanans enjoyed in their youth has its payoff in the form of a kind of simmering racial rage, all the more intense because it has been driven inward and denied.

Mind you, the more passionately racist they become, the more stridently they insist that it is not they themselves, but the people they hate and fear, who are the "real racists". They refuse to recognize their own intense racial animus; they praise the officially approved Few Good Black Men--an extremely short list including Clarence Thomas, Tom Sowell, Walter Williams, and Alan Keyes; they lash out at their critics with frenzied allusions to the infamous "race card".

Meanwhile, they brandish a little carte blanche of their own. They make their eerie jokes about monkeys and Muslims and barbecue, and whip each other into a frenzy of dread with fantasies about Barack deploying shock troops of heavily-armed rap artists who will force hard-working white folks to learn Ebonics and eat watermelon, or whatever.

And they insist that General Powell's endorsement (unlike those of Christopher Buckley, Ken Adelman, Michael Smerconish, Douglas Kmiec, and innumerable other white Republicans and/or conservatives) is motivated exclusively by race.

They are simply incapable of understanding that this toxic formulation of theirs is racist to the core.
09:38 PM on 10/20/2008
MSNBC should ditch Pat Buchanan. But they keep him because it provides a conservative counterpoint to Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. It's the equivalent of CNN's decision to keep Bill Bennett as a conservative counterpoint - despite Bennett's incendiary comments years ago about "aborting black babies to lower crime": http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006.

In fact, I remember when Buchanan told Kelli Goff to "shut up" on Dan Abrams' show back in early Summer when the issue of "race" came up. Rachel Maddow, who was sitting next to Kelli, took Buchanan to task and remarked that in all of her years of watching him, she had never witnessed him telling anyone to "shut up". Buchanan was clearly out of bounds, but refused to apologize. So there is more than enough to ditch Buchanan. I mean, this is the guy who believes that AMerica needs to be "90% white again": http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/buchanan-white-country/

So we should not seriously invest anything the wankerific Buchanan has to say about race. Colin Powell supported Obama because he was the better candidate. Buchanan just believe blacks ALWAYS support each other. And this belief is false. It is just absolutely insidious to believe that on every issue, in every instance, black people are just 100% in the tank for each other. Nothing can be further from the truth.
08:48 PM on 10/20/2008
Hey, I am a huge Colin Powell fan. However, I gotta say I lost respect for the man during Bush's first term. I would respectfully disagree with your statement he is nothing if he isn't his own man. If he were, he'd have walked right on out of that administration instead of sticking it out the full 4 year first term. Please don't give me the "he's not a quitter" line. NO ONE would have blamed ANYONE in Bush's administration for thumbing his nose and exiting. On the contrary, he'd have garnered a lot more respect than for staying. Hopefully, he will feel much more at home with the ideology of the Democrats this time around and can be a major influence in foreign policy in years to come.
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08:43 PM on 10/20/2008
I don't know which interview that you saw McCain talking about the Powell endorsement, but the couple that I saw, it was not a man who demonstrated grace. I actually laughed when you said that. Because it's a joke.

As far as Limbaugh, I was in a cab this afternoon and the driver was listening to him. He was spewing the same hateful rhetoric he always does. And yes they do not even come close to describing the America that I know.
03:09 AM on 10/21/2008
If Obama is elected the toxic rage that Limbuagh and the Fox News shills will be spewing and inciting
will be shocking to say the least. This ilk care only about their own power and wealth. Their listeners and viewers lack the realization that they really don't care about them, only the ratings that keep them on the air.
08:22 PM on 10/20/2008
Of course it makes sense that they would think an African American would vote for another simply based on race. They wrongly thought that Sarah Palin was an adequate substitute for Hillary and that women would vote for her just because she is a woman. Well, I am a 47 year old white woman who is insulted by the comments of Rush and Pat and totally offended by the choice of Palin as VP. I knew four years ago that I would vote for Obama if he ever ran for President and I am not doing it out some sort of "white guilt". I believe in the greatness of America and her people - and that includes ALL Americans.