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08:38 PM on 04/07/2012
The faculty and the administration should be fired immediately.
12:01 AM on 04/22/2012
How do you know? The article didn't interview any teachers or staff. Doesn't the fact that they can't keep a principal raise a red flag? There is something wrong in this school and the article didn't reveal it. Are staff not showing up because they are scared? Who would know. The article didn't even tell us.
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ElleKaye
Beware the Zealots.
04:38 PM on 04/07/2012
Aren't the Detroit Public Schools still under the direction of the Emergency Fiscal Manager instead of a School Board? I thought they had fixed all the problems after a couple of years of conservative financial management??
02:24 PM on 04/07/2012
Here's an idea, go to class instead of protesting the FREE education that taxpaying citizens are shelling out for. Abe Lincoln learned to be a lawyer in a log cabin with no running water, what the hell is YOUR problem?
05:02 PM on 04/07/2012
So your assumptions are that none of their parents are taxpayers and that taxpayers have no right to demand proper use of the educational system since they are, after all, paying for it.

According to one parent, her child (a student) got an A without going to class. So your suggestion for him would be what? Stay home take the easy A and enjoy the free ride?

Utterly ridiculous.
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denroth1
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05:45 PM on 04/07/2012
Fanned!
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BCubedReg
I support 'Legalistic Argle Bargle'
07:04 PM on 04/07/2012
How are the students supposed to get an education if the teachers are not there and there are not enough books for each student...do tell?
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lele215
Thanks for reminding me why I'm an independent
02:11 PM on 05/11/2012
I think the poster's point is that autodidactism is a route many great thinkers and leaders followed.
12:47 PM on 04/07/2012
We currently have some federal agencies designed to help with this sort of local program, imagine what it will be like when the conservatives cut all of those programs and agencies, leaving it up to the states alone to handle. This is certainly a sign of the recession, but it is a greater sign of the disparity between the haves and the have nots in this country. If taxing higher income people at a higher rate so as to allow repair of infrastructure, increasing school performance, allowing for medical treatment for all is socialism, then I say it is about time we get a little more socialistic. In the 1950's this country and the middle class prospered, the top tax rate was 91%. I do not think a 91% tax rate is fair or reasonable, but the fact is the country runs on the money it collects for it's citizens. We must get a representational government back into Washington and dedicate ourselves to the betterment of all
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TurnToTheLeft
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05:54 PM on 04/07/2012
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Bob Soper
04:28 AM on 04/08/2012
I think a 99% tax rate on all income over $5 million is quite fair and reasonable. We desperately need a MAXIMUM wage in this country!
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trekie70
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12:03 PM on 04/07/2012
This young men should be commended, not suspended. The majorit y of us would simply take the "A," no questions asked. These young men want to earn their grades and should be allowed to do so. The school's administration should be dismissed for punishing this group of non-violent protesters that decided to call them to account for their failures.

I salute these young men.
11:57 AM on 04/07/2012
A good 2hr story about DPS by Dan Rather on HDNET, check it out imo.
Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars goes into the DPS and yet they are consistently half a Billion dollars in the red.
A hugh percentage of the kids that graduate can't read. A hugh percentage of the kids drop out. The DPS is by far the worst school district in the country. The school board blames everyone but themselves, emergency school manager tried to turn things around and was fought each and every step of the way. Their is enough blame to go around for for everyone involved in the school district. The teachers have the toughest job in the world, constantly getting attacked verbally and physically by students, many of whom dl not want anything to do wiff school.
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Talossa
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12:43 AM on 04/07/2012
Students who have never been suspended and who will sit quietly in class have every right to demand the best in education.
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hubertandsusan
12:14 AM on 04/07/2012
I have also met many midddle class, laborers- Cuban people in Florida who have only recently left their island country, who had a much better grasp of an education, and HANDWRITING SKILLS than our own children attending private schools here in the USA. These people were not spoiled or exposed to the latest and greatest technology . But somewhere they had the discipline and desire to learn and be taught in a respectful environment. Their English may need work on the outside impression, but not too far below the surface, one can sense they are properly educated and possess beautiful penmanship, something completely lacking in todays students.
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hubertandsusan
12:09 AM on 04/07/2012
I have friends who are school middle school teachers, not exactly the worst part of south Florida, either. And the kids make it so miserable for the teachers to do their jobs that many of them quit and go on to do other work out of the education system. Sometimes its not always the teachers fault. Its the system, the lack of support toward teachers, fear of lawsuits, and yes, unruly and disrespectful children. Years ago a study was done on schools outside of the mainland USA..in poor countries like Cuba and some of the islands, remote areas where buildings, papers, computers, even desks were in short supply, scarce, limited, or non-existent. Many of the students only resources were a tree stump, the shade of a tree, and a slate board, and a teacher with a book who cared. And they found that it was NOT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY that was spent on the "school program" but the quality of education and educators!Those students managed to outperform academically when comparing their knowledge, math, language, writing and literature, US students who had brick and morter buildings and books and desks. The message here is dont get caught up in the cosmetic stuff, the sports, the homecoming queen, the uniforms, the cafeteria food. It starts with the educator and ends with the educator, and the children's willingness to learn. Period.
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10:03 AM on 04/08/2012
You should emphasize children.
11:34 AM on 04/08/2012
yep, it does, and this story proves the educators are not doing their job, and the students are forced to protest to bring attention to it
10:13 PM on 04/06/2012
It's telling that these kids were suspended for protesting a lack of education...teachers don't have the power to suspend a student that comes from the school administrators and the district. Don't get me wrong there are certainly issues if teachers aren't doing their job but to say that it's the teachers or the unions that are the problem I don't buy it. There is plenty of blame to go around.
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Njeanous
09:48 PM on 04/06/2012
Detroit, Michigan where the Republican majority of legislators are part of the Imperialist move to take back their country from blacks, other minorities, democrats and anyone interested in pursuing the American dream for an education, a good job and fair treatment and rules of decorum are ceasing to exist. When children start protesting that no education is going on in their classroom something needs investigating.
08:18 PM on 04/06/2012
In these posts I see a lot of posters laying blame for the situation against which these young people are rightly protesting on an oversimplified one cause... It is the Unions, or the federal government, or No Child Left Behind, or bad parents, or incompetent administrators, or out-of-control unruly students. There is PLENTY of blame to pass around! Yes the Teachers Union is justified in pointing out that our teachers are grossly underpaid, often covering for supplies and textbooks when inadequate funding doesn't cover; they are not justified in covering for their incompetent colleagues. Yes parents are often not involved enough in their kids' educations; they are too busy working 2 and 3 jobs trying to support the family. NCLB had noble intentions but with deliberate underfunding winds up proscribing 'teaching to the test' rather than fostering real learning. The administrators who are more concerned with keeping the bureaucracy fed rather than devoting resources to the kids and teachers are a little harder to defend. As for the unruly students, we do a disservice to the kids who want to learn by keeping the punks in regular classes; suspension does not work either - how about enforcing real detention so the unruly kids don't get what they want - a free pass from school - but the kids ready to learn aren't disrupted?
06:51 PM on 04/06/2012
There are so many issues at work even in this specific issue it is still mind boggling when observed in its entirety. Detroit sadly has been target for takeover from about thirty to forty years ago and when step away from the destruction you can see that it has been the victim of a systematic shake down. Detroit is overwhelmingly black with vast poverty stricken areas. Yes, it is a metropolitan city but in it being that the density of the poverty can be overwhelming at times. You have the affluent and you know they are there but you don't see them past the blight.So this is what these students have grown up in and have been surrounded by. So the school board and the power one would think that they have is non-existent due to the STATE take over. Systematic shake down move #1, check. The removal of individuals from the welfare system after four years (this removal includes children and elderly, who knows if someone falls back into a hard situation after they have exhausted their four years). Systematic Shake Down move #2, check. The closure of schools due to decreasing enrollment. Systematic Shake Down move #3, check. The city of Detroit entering into a fiscal agreement with the STATE to keep the city afloat (Not looking at trimming from the fiscally heavy top but completely cutting the bottom out of the deal.) Systematic Shake Down move #4, CHECKMATE.
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TurnToTheLeft
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06:07 PM on 04/07/2012
I hope this motivates people to get ID's, register to vote - and follow through to vote for Progressive Democrats. If the turn out is huge; it may be possible to change your state government and the anti-democratic governor of Michigan. If the good people of Michigan fail to vote in November I am afraid - #4, CHECKMATE!

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kathy smelser
03:16 PM on 04/06/2012
three cheers for the kids .....someone needs to listen these kids deserve a whole lot better than they are getting