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muckatuck
yeah, well, you know, thats just like uh, your opi
03:21 PM on 05/03/2012
old timers dont care.they grew up in an era where you did what you had to do to survive.a lot of fortunes, that still endure today, were made during prohibition.sounds like another case of 'busy body' syndrome.where are these same people to complain about senate bill 510? and the police state keeps rolling along, unencumbered...
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mousegrafx
02:42 PM on 05/03/2012
Usually it's old white guys who get busted for this kind of thing. About 30 years ago I worked for a small liberal-arts college deep in the mountains of VA, and it was actually very easy to go into the backwoods and find someone with a moonshine still, if you had connections - not only was the area extremely remote, dark and covered in thick brush, there were enough hound dogs to "announce" any unexpected visitors ;) Also, they used a messaging system similar to that of the African bush, in which neighbors would let out a particular sound whenever authorities were closing in. Most 'shiners were never caught, but even if they were it was a fairly short sentence - particularly if the arresting officers received a "cut" ;) Very colorful, interesting time in my life, I'm sure they're all dead by now.
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Tracee Collins
APATHY = COMPLICITY
09:15 PM on 05/03/2012
Yep, the coonhounds I saw when I lived in KY had a helluva wail! They could announce folks who were still a mile off, if they caught the scent...and it carries for probably TEN miles, as loud as they are! Appalachian alarm system, for sure!
Interesting post, and I'm your newest fan!
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libertysanders
02:35 PM on 05/03/2012
Gee...I'm so thrilled to see the authorities using tax resources to protect me from an old man who makes wine.
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cqdeed
Filling the mind with facts...or trivia?
06:23 PM on 05/03/2012
They could care less about protecting you or me. They want the tax money he is not paying.
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sr25fullauto
Go get your own opinion if u don't like mine!
02:34 PM on 05/03/2012
Looks like the arresting officers were planning their annual party again.....it said they seized the wine, but it did not say it was destroyed.
02:32 PM on 05/03/2012
A person just trying to make a living. A lot of people in that region do this and do real well.
Reneauj
Only the truth be told....
02:12 PM on 05/03/2012
Several things here...The man must make so pretty good wine to get $7-8 per half gallon...homemade... Secondly, it would not be illegal if her paid taxes on it, at least where I live.... So, my advice James, is to get a permit, get the right equip, be santitary, and collect taxes and you are good to go...
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MEVirginia
It's all about the numbers
05:47 PM on 05/03/2012
Some people have a real problem with paying to get a permit and paying taxes.
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cqdeed
Filling the mind with facts...or trivia?
06:22 PM on 05/03/2012
He has an arrest record for making illegal booze. Would he be permitted to legally get a permit? I don't know but would expect that if he had a permit he would have to operate under many rules, regulations and inspections. Much paperwork would be involved and he would have to hire people to do it, leaving him with little, if any, profit.
01:59 PM on 05/03/2012
The cooment that wine is more difficult to make as it has te fermeneted after it is distilled shows thew writer has no idea of how wine and sipirts are made. Wine is fermented , spitirts have to be fermented then distilled
Reneauj
Only the truth be told....
02:13 PM on 05/03/2012
correct....
03:13 PM on 05/03/2012
Oh, my goodness. Ever hear of spell-checking software? Please take a remedial course at the nearest community college. You'll be glad you did.
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no dash american
the real 1% ers are veterans
03:29 PM on 05/03/2012
spell check doesn't work when you're drinking homemade wine
DrJon
Deprofessionalized professional
04:37 PM on 05/03/2012
You've misspelled more words and used endless poor grammar in your posts. This is a forum not a spelling contest.
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ohslimgoody
Nothing new under the sun.
01:41 PM on 05/03/2012
Any time the government can't profit off of things it's a problem... Leave this old man alone, let him make a living a supplement his social security.. He's not asking for hand out! he is taking care of himself... I don't drink but it might give some of the legal winemakers a run for there money, hence the problem he is cutting in on there sales....
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ttigerlilyx2
04:17 PM on 05/04/2012
I agree, leave him alone! Whats next, busting Grandma for canning her home made jam?
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valeskas
catlover/book lover democrat
01:40 PM on 05/03/2012
They arrested him for illegal wine making, they rather should look, for murderers or hard criminals.
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wesnwendy
REVOLT! Never surrender! Never obey!
01:38 PM on 05/03/2012
WOW, I feel so MUCH safer now!!! More tax paid waste. More assault of the people. Less freedom. Less liberty. Less life. These, who arrested HIM, should themselves be arrested!
01:38 PM on 05/03/2012
They need to go after the Republicans.
02:03 PM on 05/03/2012
What do republicans have to do with this story
02:07 PM on 05/03/2012
He probably is a republican due to the fact he had a business plan, and was making money. He also probably wasn't taking money from the state in the form of welfare like the typical democrat. I mean if you’re going to make spiteful statements like “they should go after republicans” just goes to show what a loving, inclusive and tolerant group typical libs/democrats are. At least the ones that seem to pop up here all the time.
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rww549
Yellow Dog Democrat
02:55 PM on 05/03/2012
He also probably wasn't taking money from the state in the form of welfare like the typical democrat

I guess that wasn't spiteful?

just goes to show what a loving, inclusive and tolerant group typical repubs/teabaggers are. At least every one I have ever dealt with.
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SamuelLBronkowitz
Disgusted American
02:27 AM on 05/29/2012
Golden Hannity with Boortz diamond cluster for this comment. If he was a Rushpubliscum, the one place he WOULD be looking for a handout is the GUBMINT. Like all those Rushpubliscum bankers, oilmen, and big-box retailers do.
01:35 PM on 05/03/2012
Pefect example of a waste of tax payer dollars. An old guy running a small business from his home, not hurting anyone. But I guess if you have to shut down the lemonaid stands, you have to go after a guy bottling wine in his garage.
01:11 PM on 05/03/2012
"and leads to a loss of tax revenue for the state".
THAT's WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TOO...
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01:40 PM on 05/03/2012
I agree. His product obviously has a good reputation so I don't buy that 'safety risk' crap. Wouldn't mind having me some of that. Strictly for medicinal purposes of course...
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01:46 PM on 05/03/2012
Oh homemade wine can get you sick. Very very sick. If it doesn't ferment properly the bacteria in there will hurt you.
02:14 PM on 05/03/2012
Of course! LOL
01:45 PM on 05/03/2012
you have that right...and I wonder how much more the State of Virginia paid in salaries and benefits to the agents who tracked him down and arrested him as opposed to the money they lost in taxes on the 8600.00 worth of wine.
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MEVirginia
It's all about the numbers
06:02 PM on 05/03/2012
The people are already employed. You have to have something for them to do.
12:56 PM on 05/03/2012
Yep...those Appalacian hillbillies love their Shine! They've been cooking liquor for some 200 years out in the woods. They love playing cat and mouse with the revenue agents, and most of them win that battle. It's basic to their culture. They call it Mountan Dew, and them that refuse it are few!!!
Reneauj
Only the truth be told....
02:21 PM on 05/03/2012
Ok. stop talking... You have no idea what you are talking about. The article speaks of wine... not shine.... two very different processes and two different cultures....
02:45 PM on 05/03/2012
Guess you've never been there or been tole.....but homemade liquor of all kinds including wine have been part of the culture for the eons! I'll drink a toast to that one and you too!!
12:31 PM on 05/03/2012
Our approach to licensing this stuff is pretty obnoxious; usually it's pretty dang hard to jump through the hoops and do it "legal" in the first place (and expensive .... everyone wants a chunk of up-front cash in addition to the taxation - from Local on up to the Feds) .

But, ironically, the way our system works, the guy probably can't get a license to do it legally now that he's gotten in trouble for it - even if he wanted to. Once somebody gets on the wrong side of any regulations, one of the favorite punishments appears to be ensuring it becomes nearly impossible for the person to legally do anything going forward (assuming they are not super-wealthy ... in which case, there is an entirely different set of rules).