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FZliveson 10:06 PM on 06/04/2012
So, let us do a wee bit of creative thinking/maneuvering here. If in fact the nation is being run by a plutocracy and the group that Eisenhower tried so hard to warn us about. Let's say, just for the sake of thinking about it;  that the Military Industrial Complex has infused itself so deeply that government is hobbled by this fact. Let's assume that the Commander in Chief is really somewhat at  Read More...
njterry7
Obamacare worse than Watergate
06:01 PM on 06/05/2012
when its all over obama can't even pass a bill that is legal, should have done the job right the first time, we can't afford the on the job trainning president anymore, we somebody with atleast some kind of experience, all we have now is talking bobble head president
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05:05 PM on 06/05/2012
Romney tested healthcare reform in MA. He has the experience to know what works and what to avoid. Romney did his in a small market, lets call it a test market. Obama did not test market Obamacare. Instead, he forced it on Congress and now America with no understanding of its long term affect on our deficit and the burden it will place on tax payers. I trust Romney to come in and make the appropriate changes that will allow such an important law to actually work without bankrupting our country.
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Nick1128
06:36 PM on 06/05/2012
The problem is that you can't have the popular part (universal coverage and no rejection based on pre-existing conditions) without the unpopular part (mandate). Otherwise, healthy people drop insurance and sick people sign up, forcing insurance companies to increase rates astronomically. Romney realized this and included a mandate in the Mass program. So did the conservative Heritage Foundation when they proposed this type of health care in 1980s.
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Shasha HodnettDee Harris
Techie to my heart!!
06:40 PM on 06/05/2012
Romney-Bot bankrupted Massachuttes, just as he does with every endeavour that he touches. Obam-NeyCare will be just fine. Since you have so much confidence in Romney-Bot, then you should be comfortable that Obam-NeyCare will work, because "it's already been tested in Massachuttes!" If the haterz had left it (Obam-NeyCare) alone, the individual mandate would be in place right now. However, now we've got to fight for it. But then we're getting accustomed to fighting, since the "Party of No" insists upon it!

I cannot understand for the life of me why someone would support a politician who is bent on destroying the middle class in America, unless that someone is also wealthy! The cost of living continues to go up, yet salaries do not, no matter what type of education one has. We're all tied into the matrix! (continued on page 2)
12:02 AM on 06/06/2012
You call the GOP the party of no? Isn't it the Senate (majority Democrat) who block almost everything coming out of the House?
04:55 PM on 06/05/2012
I onder if anyone commenting here knows the history of "Obama care". About the same s the MA plan signed off by Romney. Almost the same as the plan proposed by the GOP in the 90's in answer the the Clinton reform health care proposition. The individual mandate was demanded by the GOP until the Obama plan was passed. The GOP today seems to have no concern about the rest of us, their only concern seem to be to defeat Obama. i.e. Screw us.
11:50 PM on 06/05/2012
Then why can he run on his RECORD...
Hmmmmm!!!!
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
12:38 PM on 06/06/2012
Seems to me and the REST of the world he IS running on his own record. What's "etch a sketch" Romney doing except talking about President Obama. Why won't HE run on his record?
04:47 PM on 06/05/2012
I think Obama's problems stem from the fact that he has not enountered enough of life's many "breaking point" experiences. You pile too much weigh in the back of a small truck and the springs break. You built a house of cards and at the 4th story it collapses. You put a little too much air in your tire and it explodes. You torque a bolt a little too hard and it snaps. You pull a little too much amperage and short out the fuse box. You float enough checks over a weekend and a bunch of them bounce. You forget to pay your employees and they all get up and leave. I could go on but you get the idea. He walks into the presidency with a $10 trillion dollar debt--and says, I'm going to pass a health-care bill that will cost trillions more--without realizing the many, many intended and unintended consequences. Having little or no experience in these kinds of things, he evidently didn't realize that our country was at--and still is--at a huge "breaking point."
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Nick1128
06:40 PM on 06/05/2012
Many health economists believe that Obamacare will reduce the federal burden of health care in the future. The non-partisan CBO agrees. The ballooning deficit is not related to Obamacare (which is not even fully implemented) but rather to recession (lower tax revenue) and tax cuts (Bush and Obama). Contrary to popular view, government spending under Obama has increased quite slowly (1.4% per year).
11:50 PM on 06/05/2012
Yeah!!! RIGHT!!!
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special38x2
Live, Love, & Laugh
12:56 AM on 06/06/2012
They also believed that the bailouts were the solution that would fix everything...
04:08 PM on 06/05/2012
BHO must know the supreme court is going to shoot it down ... so he is flipflopping .. whoops .. I mean EVOLVING ..
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Nick1128
06:42 PM on 06/05/2012
Bettors on intrade.com give a 57% chance of the SC shooting it down. But even if the chances were just 25%, it would make sense for Obama to have a Plan B.
04:06 PM on 06/05/2012
In other news, is it safe to say that Michelle and Mrs. Robinson will not be packing the Louis Vuitton's and heading somewhere exotic on the taxpayer's dime?

Now that there are in full "forget what you saw" mode, I am sure that Barack's handlers will keep the whole bunch fenced in, they will try and spin it all, but will be defeated soundly in November. The people have seen the show, have had enough, and will send them back to where they can all do whatever they want to do.....as long as it no longer affects us.
08:52 AM on 06/12/2012
"Circus" is more like it!
04:04 PM on 06/05/2012
still pushing this garbage even when the scotus and the people reject it.....theres your leader who knows better....nov he will be gone
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Nick1128
06:45 PM on 06/05/2012
SCOTUS hasn't rejected it yet, and the American people are divided. The people who know the program best, residents of Massachusetts, are quite happy with it, according to polls. 96% coverage, high rates of satisfaction, and costs that are growing more slowly than in other states.
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JstDarla
Gone Fishing
03:57 PM on 06/05/2012
IF they would have kept their fingers out of the programs to begin with adjustments could have been made all along and we would not be in this mess. Why do they not hold the system liable for taking the money from the funds? Why do the American people have to keep bailing out a bunch of crooks? How long are we going to let them continue to get away with lies and thievery? If we worked for a company and did that we would be fired. The government works for us and now they ALL need fired. We need to clean house starting with the WH. Vote them ALL out, Dem & Rep and start looking for the right people who will work for US.
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john yunker
God gave you that mouth...Use it
03:47 PM on 06/05/2012
The individual requirement should not stand, but the Insurance companies should be required to continue coverage as a whole if a person is disabled while under the protection of that company. It should continue with no premiums. Not only should it cover the condition that caused the disability but continue coverage on other illnesses or accidents as if it was paid and not be able to cancel for non payment..Too many times they will lose(conveniently) the premium paid in order to cancel coverage
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homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
03:27 PM on 06/05/2012
Plan B should be single payer.
04:05 PM on 06/05/2012
plan B for barry and company is invade iran cancel the election and don't ask questions you sheep
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Nick1128
06:46 PM on 06/05/2012
Your logic is as impeccable as your capitalization!
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03:13 PM on 06/05/2012
Of course healthcare will need to be redone. AHA, regardless of how the SC votes, will need to be redone before 2014. Some parts are good other parts were slapped in for the sole purpose of attracting enough Democrat votes to pass it. And then, of course, there are special interests and exemptions.
08:53 AM on 06/12/2012
Put Hillary on it! Arrrr!
03:11 PM on 06/05/2012
The problem with ObamaCare is not only the health insurance part but ALL THE OTHER CRAP THEY TIED TO IT. Like oh let's just say the government tax you will have to pay when you sell your home. Does that sound like healthcare? Nope... but in Obamacare, starting in2013 you will have to something like a 6% sales tax to the feds when you sell your home. Do you know how much money that is on a 200,000. house? How about on your 80,000. house? Do you think the government should get any of that money?? Do you know who stuck that in Obamacare?? Do your research people!!
04:06 PM on 06/05/2012
most americans reject this, incase you havn't heard
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Nick1128
06:48 PM on 06/05/2012
Great job on the research!!! But it would be helpful to summarize since most people will not check all the links.
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03:30 PM on 06/05/2012
The best thing to do would be to provide the public option. That way, people that want to buy private insurance can continue to buy private insurance, and people that want to buy government health insurance can buy government health insurance. I suggest expanding Medicare to cover all Americans. Since I am paying into the Medicare system now so that I can be covered when I turn 65, if I last that long, I would be happy to pay extra into the Medicare system so that I can be covered now. I'd much rather do that than continue to pay into the Blue Cross of Idaho private insurance. That way, the government insurance can be financed directly by the insured rather than taxing business and home sellers.
04:04 PM on 06/05/2012
As long as your willing to pay an extra 7000.00 to 10000.00 per year it will work, otherwise not so much.
03:08 PM on 06/05/2012
Interesting to see the comments from the rightwing-nuts . We already have numerous Federal and State "mandates", Income tax, Medicare, from the states, auto insurance. We are already paying through the nose for health care for the uninsured. They go the to the E room and are treated for free and we get higher premiums and taxes.
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john yunker
God gave you that mouth...Use it
03:57 PM on 06/05/2012
illegal immigrants make nearly 1/2 of that cost. They should in no way be able to go to an emergency room for the flu..No one should.. the emergency costs for something that trivial are way outrageous.costs for services near those for stitches or fracture....And medicaid for the childen of illegals costs loads too..Same with schools and services..
04:10 PM on 06/05/2012
Well....Reagan signed the bill in I think, '86. Not only illegals, the other 30 million or so who have ne insurance coverage. Family in Canada and friends in the UK. National health plans work. Higher taxes but maybe a trade off for higher premiums here where the payout is much amaller due to the outrageous salaries of the CEO's of the HMO's.
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wilkesgm
05:13 PM on 06/05/2012
There is a fundamental difference between the legislature approving expenditures and the federal government ordering you to buy a commercial product simply because you are alive.
05:30 PM on 06/05/2012
So your solution would be? The 30 million with no insurance going to the Emergency Rooms jacking up insurance rates and our taxes. There are many Federal and State required things, taxes, auto insurance, etc. Not to mention Social Security. Personally paid into Social Security for about 5o years . So....what do you propose?
03:07 PM on 06/05/2012
Why don't they look at staying out of our healthcare and going after the insurance companies who rape the people, the doctors and the system! You pay for health insurance and then they don't want to cover the things your doctor says you need??? This should be illegal!! Insurance companies should be a not for profit industry with maximum salaries for workers!!! You want to change healthcare, give the money to the doctors and not the special interests groups who in turn stuff it into the pockets of legislators!! All a bunch of thieves!
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gts31bumbee
a Warehouse of Information
03:46 PM on 06/05/2012
The best solutions are not the easiest when there is a buck to be made ! Banks and insurance companies are parasites waiting for a piece of the action.
05:10 PM on 06/05/2012
Bravo...my wife just went for a basic checkup with blood work and the bill to the insurance company from the lab work was $10000!! It is a very messed up system- the insurance companies, the Doctors, the labs......
12:16 AM on 06/07/2012
I'll tell you what is really eye opening-losing your health insurance !! When you go on private pay for instance, a Drug Screen which is mandatorily done by a Pain management doctor costs you $120. When they billed your insurance company, they were billing $1425 per screening.
MY GOD !!! Can you imagine how much money the insurance companies are ripping off daily, monthly, yearly ??? And it takes losing your insurance to find out HOW MUCH !!!!
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wssweeps3
Laughing at the loony left
02:57 PM on 06/05/2012
No more payroll deductions, make it voluntary. We'll see how many libs sign up.
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Avice Mendenhall Woodard
03:00 PM on 06/05/2012
I signed up a long time ago. Voluntarily.
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03:34 PM on 06/05/2012
If the Medicare system was expanded to cover all Americans, I, speaking as a "lib", would be thrilled to pay extra so that I can be covered by Medicare now, rather than when I turn 65, if I last that long. I pay into the Medicare system now so that I will be covered when I turn 65. I would much rather pay extra to be covered now by Medicare rather than continuing to pay into Blue Cross of Idaho. So you have one "lib" ready to sign up now, wssweeps3.
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wilkesgm
05:17 PM on 06/05/2012
Medicare is not solvent and will be less so as the baby-boomers retire. In essence you want something for nothing. In case you didn't realize it, your guy spent 5 trillion dollars on nothing and committed us to paying an extra trillion a year as the stimulus funds were rolled into the baseline budget for the next ten years. i.e. The democrat party has bankrupted the system. There isn't going to be any money in a very short while. Will you rob your neighbor forever to get what you imagine you are owed?