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PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
05:38 PM on 06/05/2012
Judges all work for we-the-people. I think we need an employers meeting to discuss removing the Judges chairs from the courthouse. They would pay better attention and do a better at their job if they weren't dozing off in those comfy chairs during court hearings and trials.
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MrStat1
Conservative, NRA and Proud of It
06:48 PM on 06/05/2012
There is no provision in law to do that, at least with federal judges. State judges are subject to their states constitution. You may have to initiate a recall for those judges you object to or wait until the next judicial election. But you cannot legally remove a judge by just sitting down and "talking" with others. You do not have the force of law.
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
07:04 PM on 06/05/2012
I don't want to remove the judges, just their chairs. Make them stand for 8 hours a day like the CVS cashiers.
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jackdaniel58
05:32 PM on 06/05/2012
CVS is afraid of inferior chairs that might collapse and in turn get sued.
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Roelvdwegen
Card-carrying Socialist and proud of it!
05:25 PM on 06/05/2012
If work can be done sitting down and can in fact be more efficient sitting down why not just spend a few bucks and get the cashiers a chair? I mean really? What is the problem? Is sitting down considered socialism nowadays?
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Robert SF
07:21 PM on 06/05/2012
Well, it is more comfortable than standing up, and because employers resent their workers, they'll sooner work them under less comfortable settings.
07:54 PM on 06/05/2012
I think the argument was that it was not in fact more efficient to sit down.
"But the judge in the CVS case argued that the nature of CVS's cashier job doesn't "reasonably permit the use of a seat," according to court documents."
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JustinP213
I dislike all political parties.
05:18 PM on 06/05/2012
It's obvious that CVS CAN provide chairs for its workers. Alas, CVS isn't required, under the law, to do so.
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MrStat1
Conservative, NRA and Proud of It
06:48 PM on 06/05/2012
Then CVS is legally within their rights.
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JustinP213
I dislike all political parties.
06:58 PM on 06/05/2012
yep
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zedthewizard
05:15 PM on 06/05/2012
do those trendsetters in silicon value get paid lousy wages and have to stand in the same area of hard floor for their entire shift? of course not! more ways the rich try and tell the poor they don't deserve any rest!!!
05:12 PM on 06/05/2012
If she wants to sit and work move her lazy a-- to europe. She knew what the job required when she took it. Maybe she could drive a cab
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Roelvdwegen
Card-carrying Socialist and proud of it!
05:21 PM on 06/05/2012
Did you read the article? Half the work can be done sitting down!
05:34 PM on 06/05/2012
Probably could do the other half laying down if you wanted to look lazy and worthless
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Tasies
05:55 PM on 06/05/2012
It's this type of heartless, spineless tripe that allows corpoations to milk everyone dry, and all for 8 bucks an hour.
05:12 PM on 06/05/2012
If you want to sit on your fat caboose, perhaps being a cashier is not the job for you. I was a cashier at a few different places back in the 80s and 90s, I didn't have a chair, nor did I expect one.
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Tasies
05:57 PM on 06/05/2012
Oh how courgeous of you, I've had extremly physical jobs as well, difference is, I'm not spewing heartless bile.
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MrStat1
Conservative, NRA and Proud of It
06:49 PM on 06/05/2012
heartless is a value judgment.
04:57 PM on 06/05/2012
It's only a matter of time before the state that talks down to the rest of the country is completely broke.... o wait that's already happened. Go ahead raise your you income tax some more to pay for it. We will gladly welcome your fleeing industries in our states.
groucho42
Radical Moderate
05:08 PM on 06/05/2012
Actually, the state's broke being the propositions changed the constitution to lock in lots of spending while making it almost impossible to raise taxes -- the Republican dream.
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MrStat1
Conservative, NRA and Proud of It
06:49 PM on 06/05/2012
Prop. 13 raised the tax threashold to 2/3.
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French Toast
MAPLE SYRUP
05:18 PM on 06/05/2012
Telling California they talk down to the rest of the country while talking down to them is ironic. Oh wait, you're not intelligent enough to understand irony. The previous sentence spoke down to you so as to be intentionally ironic in that regard.

Long story short, take a chill pill. The person best equipped and man enough to close the deficit is a moderate Democrat in Jerry Brown. Already got more done than did Ahnold.
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1vegasjack
retired craps dealer
04:48 PM on 06/05/2012
why is it that the worker's in Europe have it so much better than the USA worker ?
health care ?
school's ?
retirement ?
that's right we have to spend spend spend on the military
04:51 PM on 06/05/2012
They are also on the brink of collapse, economically speaking.
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oftenon
cartoons are the best explanation
05:07 PM on 06/05/2012
...and it logically follows, RIPE FOR INVASION!
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zedthewizard
05:17 PM on 06/05/2012
they are on the brink of collapse not due to any economics but on political will. further, they are on the brink because of the capitalists and bankers and credit derivatives. yeah, the truth is the bankers screwed us again, NOT the workers. does anyone read or do they all pull it out of their
05:13 PM on 06/05/2012
Move to Europe
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
05:40 PM on 06/05/2012
You move to Somalia.
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NJProgressiveIndie
Never Surrender...
07:06 AM on 06/06/2012
Move to Iraq or North Korea.
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04:42 PM on 06/05/2012
Gosh, providing a chair was too much to ask? Despite the fact that one of these ladies didn't ask for a chair until after she got fired, for absenteeism.......maybe cause she had back problems?

I can't see anyone doing their job at the check-out of any store, not being happier/friendlier/& in less pain, if the earner of the profits from that employee doing their job, could make said profit maker feel they were appreciated for the contributions to the bottom line. I am the employer in the service industry, and if my NOT doing something, DELIBERATELY caused one of my employees to be in unnecessary pain or prevent pains onslaught, just what do you think they would be saying to my customers behind my back????

It just makes sense, you treat your most important asset in your business, your employee who brings in the money to keep you in your house and them in theirs, your turn over goes way down, and so does your training expenses. I know I am a dinosaur in business these days, but 26 yr.s later, I think I have some credibility. If you take care of the small things, then the rest will take care of itself.
P.S. my shop supports quite a few families. I never got hooked into the addiction of greed. That can't be said for some of my now, defunked competitors, or those companies that got sued in this report.
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NJProgressiveIndie
Never Surrender...
07:00 AM on 06/06/2012
Sadly, like the late Mr. Hewlett of HP, your way of thinking does make you a relic in this era of the "plantation work ethic" adopted by many companies and encouraged by the right.
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wilsonrev1615
A true artist always starves...
04:32 PM on 06/05/2012
Ruling from a judge from California huh... no way it could be an insane judgement. I also like the irony that while handing down the ruling, he done so while sitting down...lol
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French Toast
MAPLE SYRUP
05:25 PM on 06/05/2012
That's not ironic, merely humorous. It would be ironic if he called the person lazy for wanting to sit. Merely handing down a ruling on the basis of interpreted law doesn't in itself qualify.

The general rule of irony is it has to be the opposite of what is expected., not simply a ridiculous circumstance.
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wilsonrev1615
A true artist always starves...
10:11 AM on 06/06/2012
Thank you for that overwhelmingly unnecessary explanation. Ima go out on a limb here, but I'd guess people probably understood the context.
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Caroleeena
The reasonable adapt to the world
04:07 PM on 06/05/2012
That's ridiculous. Of course being a cashier DOES "reasonably permit the use of a seat." That judge is crazy! It is so hard to stand on your feet for hours and hours every day. It's hard on your feet, legs, and back and makes it so many people can't do that work. It's nonsense to say that they can't sit down and do it. This judge has clearly never had to stand for eight to ten hours at a time. Maybe he should be forced to do that before ruling on a case such as this. His ruling is absurd!!!
lofttypeofaview
I pledge allegiance to the poor!
06:40 PM on 06/05/2012
In the past before machinery, excessive hard work shortened lives. While a healthy person's body if strong, it is also fragile. Which is why there are endless accounts of athletes dying on the football field and basketball court. Unnecessarily forcing employees to work in conditions that aren't safe/accommodating causes disabilities, that then ensure that they eventually can't work and then have to collect disability. There are so many disabled people that normally wouldn't have become disabled and could have even worked during their retirement years if they chose to, if only their employers did everything they reasonably could to prevent work related injuries; such as Mesothelioma from asbestos and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
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Caroleeena
The reasonable adapt to the world
12:06 AM on 06/06/2012
You are exactly right.
06:44 PM on 06/05/2012
Being a cashier in many places means you also have to customer service, and watch for shoplifters, and put things on shelves, et cetera...not just sitting at a register. I never found being a cashier required a chair...seemed to make sense that we didn't have chairs actually. It is sad that standing is a problem for so many people...unless you are disabled, you should be able to stand for a shift.
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mantra
09:16 PM on 06/05/2012
I have always shopped in supermarkets and cashiers don't do anything else except stand in their place at the checkout counter.
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Caroleeena
The reasonable adapt to the world
12:34 AM on 06/06/2012
I am not disabled but I cannot stand for eight hours. We're not talking about stocking shelves and what not. You can move and do that, which is better than standing on your feet still. No one is asking to sit to do that. Try asking your mom to stand for eight hours and see if she can do it. It's silly to judge everyone by the same measure. Even doctors tell us it is not good for your circulation or skeletal system to be on our feet and still all day long. Look what it does to nurses and servers in restaurants. Again, it's ridiculous to hurt people just to try to force some kind of fake productivity on them. People are not cogs in wheels!!!
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lrobb
Gold standard = four paws and a tail
04:04 PM on 06/05/2012
I am a native Californian who lived there from birth in 1947 to 1991, but have never been so grateful I chose to leave for South Carolina as I am right now.

I own a small business, and if my income from same is as high as it is, I have South Carolina to thank. Adios, California. Don't let the door hit you when you find you have to leave the US or go bankrupt.
04:55 PM on 06/05/2012
Funny you say that. I have the same sentiment. I'm from Michigan and moved to Atlanta... Best decision I ever made. Took a road trip last summer and went to Myrtle Beach & Charleston. South Carolina is one of the more beautiful states I have visited.
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lrobb
Gold standard = four paws and a tail
07:21 PM on 06/05/2012
Most people have a very mistaken idea of SC. We are not nearly as much into politics as we are into tourism and golf. If you had a good time in my state our job was done well. Y'all come back, now.
groucho42
Radical Moderate
05:09 PM on 06/05/2012
Funny you should say that. So tell me, while you were there, did you vote for Proposition 13 -- the primary reason California is broke?
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mdennish
05:27 PM on 06/05/2012
California is broke due to Democrats and Unions. Prop 13 did not cause the 19 billion dollar deficit.
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JustinP213
I dislike all political parties.
05:56 PM on 06/05/2012
That is such b.s., groucho. If California didn't spend so much damn money, it wouldn't Proposition 13 wouldn't matter. And, blame the CA Supreme Court for Prop 13 since it was the one who ruled that funding schools based on property taxes was unconstitutional.