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02:57 PM on 07/16/2012
Nico Jordaan, "These rebels don't want to negotiate, nothing new. They are puppets and get told what to do by guys like Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Mohammed Badie and Mohammed Omar I'd guess mixed with a few high profile princes of the house of Saud. I doubt Syria will be a better place if it falls to the hands of these extremist rebels that have desecrated churches, shot television presenters in Studios and I'm going to assume committed all the horrifying assault on civilians in order to get international attention. Any rebel group who wants a say in the government of his country is open to negotiations, these guys aren't which means they want regime change and there is nothing democratic about that. I support Russia in this one."
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Absolutely true. At the very least, Russia and China do not hide the fact that personal interests in the first place for all, while the West and Co are trying to hide it all under tons of pathetic speeches and deceitful, despicable tricks.

Saudi Arabia - the dictatorial regime after North Korea, says something about democracy? What a joke

Rebels and Assad have exactly the same value on a scale of good / evil. One tries to retain power, while others are trying to capture that power. An both do not hesitate in the means to achieve these goals
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HonkyTonkMan
02:40 PM on 07/16/2012
Russia:

Celebrating 67 consecutive years of being on the wrong side of everything.
10:24 PM on 07/16/2012
And we have been on the right side in Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Egypt, Saudi, Bahrain, South America, Tibet, and the list goes on and on.

This whole thing is nothing more than us and the UK trying to get to Iran through Syria. If Syria falls we have a better chance at waging war against Iran so we can protect the Petrodollar and the interests of the non tax paying corporations.
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ehjay
VOTE DEMOCRAT & SAVE AMERICA
10:34 PM on 07/16/2012
Americans are riding in Russia's space shuttle now and America asks China for financial aid. Does that alter your picture of the world at all.
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marinemomof3
4/30/86 to 3/30/14 I love you son!
12:10 AM on 07/17/2012
Are you always this good, or did you eat something in particular for dinner/lunch??
06:50 AM on 07/17/2012
yes.americans defending communism and chasing capitalists in wall street
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flyingfortresb17
02:32 PM on 07/16/2012
IT is time for the Western Nations and the Allied Arabic Nations to declare a no fly zone over Syria. There should also be an embargo set at the Syrian ports as was done to Cuba years ago. I am sure the Russians and the Chinese would protest, gnash their teeth and pull their hair but they would in the end do nothing but stand back and watch Syria die.
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
10:17 PM on 07/16/2012
An embargo like the one we imposed on Cuba, huh? Yeah, great idea. Now go back to your video game.
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flyingfortresb17
10:50 AM on 07/17/2012
Blockade the ports. I am not for the fighting but the west and Arabian states need to stop the fighting some how.
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flyingfortresb17
12:24 PM on 07/17/2012
An embargo or blockade is better than going in with Nato Troops. IT is easier to enforce that and a no fly zone to help establish a cease fire. Hilary stated we aren't going to supply ground troops.
10:26 PM on 07/16/2012
And I suppose Israel will gladly enforce the no fly zone fore humanity.
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flyingfortresb17
10:51 AM on 07/17/2012
Israel is not in the loop here.
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Nico Jordaan
Double Standards dont apply to me!
02:01 PM on 07/16/2012
These rebels don't want to negotiate, nothing new. They are puppets and get told what to do by guys like Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Mohammed Badie and Mohammed Omar I'd guess mixed with a few high profile princes of the house of Saud. I doubt Syria will be a better place if it falls to the hands of these extremist rebels that have desecrated churches, shot television presenters in Studios and I'm going to assume committed all the horrifying assault on civilians in order to get international attention. Any rebel group who wants a say in the government of his country is open to negotiations, these guys aren't which means they want regime change and there is nothing democratic about that. I support Russia in this one.
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flyingfortresb17
02:29 PM on 07/16/2012
You are making a lot of assumptions based on little or no information to strengthen you suppositions. This is somewhat the same case which occurred in Egypt when the Pro-government factions began to butcher people who opposed the government and the religious zealots killed the Coptic Christians because they were not Muslim.
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Deir Yassin Survivor
04:04 PM on 07/16/2012
NO Egypt and Syria are very different cases, Egypt had a popular uprising and Mubarak had little or no support.
Assad however has a great deal of loyal support perhaps 30%, and just as importantly a huge block of the population who are standing neutral not because they like Assad but because they fear what the insurgency represents. For the neutral it is a choice between bad or worse.
Caught in this are the militants, externals from places like Iraq and malcontents and army deserters from Syria. They are in a no win situation at the moment and using the only leverage they have which is the human tragedy they create to inflame international opinion hoping for an intervention.
I believe there is a peacful solution to be negotiated but the regime change agenda precludes meaningful progress.
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kafantaris
12:34 PM on 07/16/2012
Surprise, surprise.
Russia again says that the U.N. should not boot out Assad from Syria.
And again we are shocked, dismayed and disappointed.
Why?
Russia and China have their own reasons not to lift a finger in Syria -- but we are not waiting for them anymore.
Rather, we will join other countries willing help to take care of the necessary business in Syria -- just as we had done in Libya.
This time around, Russia and China had their chance to be part of the solution. Over and over, they have refused -- less they ultimately rattle their own house of cards.
Fine.
But their inaction has committed them to getting out of the way. They can do so and save face, or that they can continue to be obstreperous and lose more face.
Either way, we are moving forward without them.
As for Lavrov’s claim that the West is blackmailing Russia, most countries see it the other way around.
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Liban CZ
Straight as an arrow.
08:32 PM on 07/16/2012
The WORLD is leaving this ONE to AMERICA, BarryHillary know the best what to do?
newshound620
Still here
12:12 PM on 07/16/2012
Russia should accuse Russia of blackmail of its own people.
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Liban CZ
Straight as an arrow.
08:35 PM on 07/16/2012
WHY?
Life in Russia is going steady as she goes.....
newshound620
Still here
11:47 PM on 07/16/2012
That's a ridiculous comment. Sure, under the facade of democracy, steady as she goes while they continue to murder their journalists. And that's just the beginning.
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Trustfunded1
11:57 AM on 07/16/2012
America and NATO will beat war with Syria,Iran,Iraq,Pakistan,Russia,China and North Korea within a year.
07:33 PM on 07/16/2012
I think your right, the GOP wants a global war to reap the profits.
Pauline Jaing
Artist, worker, mother
07:33 PM on 07/16/2012
Wrong. If it comes to that, then NATO will split, like the rotten, stupid tomatoe it is. NATO should have died when the Warsaw Pact did.