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bryanzth 11:56 AM on 10/29/2012
OH. By the way, boys and girls, there are MANY of us, who, having gone through the Catholic school system and were smart enough to catch the tricks they played on us with regard to catechism, faith, sex, drugs and rock and roll, very well know that we were sold a faulty bunch of goods. Some of us who found that out and who experienced the breath of fresh air that was Vatican II and still fewer who read and  Read More...
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moboyle110
Audentes Fortuna Juvat
05:55 PM on 10/25/2012
I understand that Bill Donohue pulls in a salary of about $400K as the president of the Catholic League. It's always about the money.
06:43 PM on 10/25/2012
As a paid up member of the Catholic League I do not begrudge him his salary. It's not paid by the government nor by the Catholic Church. Bill Donahue was reponsible for taking the Catholic League from a small membership to the numbers it has today. He lays his neck out to take the flack for his defense of Catholicism against the onslaught from moral relativists and social engineers. His organization is also often there to help individuals and organizations that may be suffering from anti-Catholic bias.
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moboyle110
Audentes Fortuna Juvat
07:08 PM on 10/25/2012
What did Christ command his followers to do regarding those who persecuted them?
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09:54 PM on 10/28/2012
OH, you're one of those, then. Unfanned. Too bad so sad.

BZ.
09:24 AM on 10/25/2012
You're only a Roman Catholic if you follow the tenets of the Church. If you want to pick and choose your "Christian" beliefs then there are other churches such as the different flavors of Congregationalist churches.
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02:01 PM on 10/25/2012
Pick and choose seems to be what the Bishops are doing right now! The only thing they choose from the menu is abortion. Shouldn't they leave and start a church without those annoying social justice and concern for the poor that Jesus talked about?
02:11 PM on 10/25/2012
No they shouldn't and abortion comes under the Church's concern for the sanctity of life. Outside of governments, the Catholic Church runs the biggest programs with regards charities, hospitals, hospices, orphanages, and schools. That, and the Church's religious duties as well. In fact the latter drives all the former.
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03:04 PM on 10/25/2012
Extreme hierarchical churches are just as susceptible to error as the most cultish megachurch.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:42 AM on 10/25/2012
Who speaks for catholics?
The guy in the biggest hat, of course.
Don't pay any attention though.
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09:59 PM on 10/28/2012
LOL! R'amen!

BZ.
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cyanmanta
Thinking outside the box is for smart people...
12:02 AM on 10/25/2012
How about people learn to act, speak, and think for themselves instead of letting a bunch of con men and perverts in the vatican tell them what to do, what to say, and what to think?
09:14 AM on 10/25/2012
Whether a believer or not, people do think for themselves. My problem is with those that don't follow Catholic teachings but still feel the need to use label "Catholic" in order to give themselves a semblence of importance. If, as you claim, "free thinkers" are exclusive of being religious then you shouldn't use a religious designation in the name of your group.
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GreenDolphinSt
If you understood everything I said, you'd be me
04:08 AM on 10/26/2012
You seem like the one who thinks that calling yourself "Catholic" gives you a semblance of importance.

PS, it's not working.
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10:00 PM on 10/28/2012
Catholic teachings. Obey or be excommunicated, is that your point?

Meh. I am a Catholic, an Anglican Catholic, a cultural catholic, and a free Catholic.

BZ.
10:50 PM on 10/24/2012
One thing is certain: Bill Donohue doesn't speak for anyone except Bill Donohue.
09:18 AM on 10/25/2012
The Catholic League has 350,000 members most who are Roman Catholic.
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03:06 PM on 10/25/2012
Bill Donohue is a self important wingnut.
10:06 PM on 10/27/2012
No, they don't. If one person in a household joins, Donohue claims that ALL members of the household are members. In reality, the numbers are likely less than 1/4 of that.
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GreenDolphinSt
If you understood everything I said, you'd be me
04:08 AM on 10/26/2012
No kidding. Fanned.
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Claudia Ruhl
08:20 PM on 10/24/2012
I'd like to correct the statement made on the video that Paul Ryan represents the Catholic position on abortion. I'm not certain that's true. My understanding is that the Romney/Ryan ticket is embracing the anti-abortion position, except in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. I graduated from a Catholic university in the '70s. While there, I did a paper on abortion for my Ethics class. My understanding of the Catholic church position is that no abortion is allow for any of those 3 exceptions -- INCLUDING the life of the mother, because she has already had an opportunity to save her soul, the child has not. One "technical" sort of exception was when some procedure was done to help the mother and it INDIRECTLY caused the fetus to abort. There may have been a name for this. I was using Catholic resources at the college to write this paper. Can anyone clarify the Catholic position for me?
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ruthsdaughter
Each of us is willed; each of us is necessary
11:15 AM on 10/25/2012
St. Gianna Molla was canonized because she refused treatment of her uterine cancer in order to save the life of her daughter.
I agree that this Church teaching can be difficult to understand, with the "direct" or "indirect" actions. I've been doing a lot of reading on this lately, too.
The sentence I found most helpful here is, "that the evil is not made the means to obtain the good effect.."
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01046b.htm
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Claudia Ruhl
04:30 PM on 10/25/2012
Thank you for responding and thanx for the reference.
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GreenDolphinSt
If you understood everything I said, you'd be me
04:09 AM on 10/26/2012
Suiciding oneself and depriving one's living children of their mother are not actions of a saint.
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03:07 PM on 10/25/2012
Believe you are right.
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Claudia Ruhl
04:35 PM on 10/25/2012
Thank you for responding
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1waitasec
theology = opinion based on conjecture, so what?
06:58 PM on 10/24/2012
how silly...
why doesn't god just speak to us from the sky...that would get our attention, wouldn't you think?
instead it's all about, 'my opinion is right about something that cannot be verified and yours is wrong because a) you were born in the wrong country b) you were born to the wrong set of parents c) you refuse to agree with me.

lame.
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ruthsdaughter
Each of us is willed; each of us is necessary
11:20 AM on 10/25/2012
oh, you mean something like,
"This Is My beloved Son, In Whom I Am Well Pleased"
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1waitasec
theology = opinion based on conjecture, so what?
11:38 AM on 10/25/2012
anything really...
i don't think i'm asking for too much.
i mean if he created the universe, and god really wants us to know it, then why not make itself known in an empirical manner that is unquestionable?so the question for me is, where did this idea of god wanting us to know it come from...?  certainly not from me but from a 3 party revelation...and there are plenty of them out there to choose from.
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Stokes
05:42 PM on 10/24/2012
Jesus said: 'Verily I say unto you, the scribes and doctors have made void the law of God with their false prophecies, contrary to the prophecies of the true prophets of God: Wherefore God is wroth with the house of Israel and with this faithless generation.' His disciples wept at these words, and said: 'Have mercy, O God, have mercy upon the temple and upon the holy city, and give it not into contempt of the nations that they despise not thy holy covenant.' Jesus answered: 'So be it, Lord God of our fathers

(From the writings of Barnabus)”

“When the redemptive power of God's love does fill the earth there will be given special emphasis on the realism of Christ's teachings. All will be given a chance to receive Truth. God is a spirit of love and not an angry, bearded old man on a cloud as these self-annointed holy men would have us believe.”
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03:08 PM on 10/25/2012
OK
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Hillbilly49
If God is your Co-Pilot; let him land the plane.
05:40 PM on 10/24/2012
Donohue is right wing extremist and a horrible person to represent the Roman Church.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:24 AM on 10/25/2012
Wouldn't he appear to be ideal then?
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mboddie
11:55 AM on 10/25/2012
Then it is a good thing that he doesn't. Among me and my Catholic friends hes a clown and doesn't speak for anyone that I know
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Ken Eigenberg
Comfort the afflicted; afflict the comfortable
04:50 PM on 10/24/2012
A couple of these folks make the Taliban look moderate.

Somebody needs to find Martin Luther's hammer and tacks and start posting some Theses to the door.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
04:54 PM on 10/24/2012
fundamental extremists are ugly no matter whose book they quote.
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Hillbilly49
If God is your Co-Pilot; let him land the plane.
05:40 PM on 10/24/2012
That has been my experience.  F & F
04:30 PM on 10/24/2012
Best way to handle dueling Catholics is to apply the correct verses right back at them, like the interviewer did. Watch them squirm and learn humility real fast? They do not like that at all. Exactly what Christ did to satan when he tried to use biblical verses by mixing them with truths and lies to tempt Christ, Christ use the correct verses right back at satan to rebuke him. Jesus did say: Follow Me, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. Peace
A-Superstitionist
Keep thy superstitions to thyself and out of laws
04:03 PM on 10/24/2012
As usual, Bill Donohue is acting as Bully Donohue.

98% of catholic women have used contraception at some time during their life.

Let's throw them and their spouses out of the church. That way the catholic church – better known as the Worldwide Pedophile Protection Agency can be reduced to a handful of old geezers dressed in robes with funny hats.
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ruthsdaughter
Each of us is willed; each of us is necessary
11:27 AM on 10/25/2012
99% of Catholic men and women Lie
90% of Catholics take the Lord's Name in vain
95% of Catholics sometimes fail to keep holy the Sabbath Day
99.9% of Catholics at some point in their lives have failed to honor their father and Mother.
Don't get me started on coveting.......

The point I'm trying to make is that the Church is not a Haven For Saints.......
She is a Hospital for Sinners.
A-Superstitionist
Keep thy superstitions to thyself and out of laws
11:54 AM on 10/25/2012
Be aware that until someone offers verifiable and falsifiable evidence that supports the existence of a god, all god claims are plain and ugly superstition and all religions are nothing but superstitions. Until such time, god claims have no more credibility than claiming that invisible pink unicorns exist. In the mean time, in this secular country where everyone has the constitutional right of freedom OF and FROM superstition, you are welcome to hang onto any superstition of your choice and I have the right to reject and ridicule all superstitions.
03:58 PM on 10/24/2012
I'm a Jew, so what do I know. But if you pray in a Catholic church and go to mass, and give $ to the church -- doesn't that make you a catholic. Your opinion on religious issues may be right or wrong, but how does one's opinions change whether one is a Catholic or not.

Sorry. don't mean to intrude.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
04:42 PM on 10/24/2012
Actually, being a catholic is just like being a Jew. The vast majority of us are born into it.
03:54 PM on 10/24/2012
These disagreements make it seem like Catholicism does not provide clear practical guidance on major issues such as who can/cannot be a Catholic, homosexuality, and abortion.
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GreenDolphinSt
If you understood everything I said, you'd be me
04:11 AM on 10/26/2012
The latter-day regressive fundamentalist Catholics do not provide any kind of practical guidance whatsoever.
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sb1after909
Beware of Soft Shoe Shufflers
02:41 PM on 10/24/2012
Bill Donohue is the Popes pitbull. His job is to snarl at the chain-link fence to divert your attention from the crime being waged in the house behind him.
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umbriago
The Tooth Shall Set My Fee
03:28 PM on 10/24/2012
You nailed it!
04:32 PM on 10/24/2012
Wish Jesus was here He would handle Donohue in a second, would He?  Peace