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thisNewFoundLand
"Read the books of DT Suzuki." -- Kerouac
08:56 AM on 12/13/2012
...i came here wondering if the photo accompanying the headline was somehow stock -- the military nature of the armed personnel is troubling to me. Some comfort comes in knowing that others share the same concerns.
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prestonsturges
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09:18 AM on 12/13/2012
Read the side of the truck, not a 'stock' or 'file' photo. I have similar concerns, but what do the Police expect to be faced with? The people they are looking for are nasty folks and the Police have to be ready for anything.
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09:23 AM on 12/13/2012
Same here. I looked very carefully and it's authentic this time. Huffpo frequently uses stock photos for dramatic effect.

The FBI continuously puts out statistics and claims that violent crime has been on the *de*crease for decades. But statistics are statistics and does that necessary mean that America is a safer place to be? Maybe it holds true as to the number of incidents but what about the intensity of the incidents?

It is troubling that we have military forces in action domestically, whether or not they are technically 'police'. Troubling if there actually is a need for this level of aggression by authorities and even more troubling if there isn't actually a need.
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ge971
slightly to the left of John Lennon
08:45 AM on 12/13/2012
OK Cops join the Military if you want to look like soliders.This is getting out of control, all these local departments playing like they're the U.S. Army
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AbeMartin
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08:53 AM on 12/13/2012
mPolice look and act like the military because most police officers are veterans of the United States Armed Services.  And, a great many served with honor on multiple deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicted areas across the world.  Your understanding of modern police practice and how they react to a real or possible threat harkens back to the days of Andy of Mayberry or Car 54, Where Are You?
09:06 AM on 12/13/2012
You concept of policing a society harkens back to the days of the Berlin wall.
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Turnout
Hypocrisy: The #1 quality of American politics.
09:16 AM on 12/13/2012
So it's okay for police to patrol the streets of America as if they are fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan?
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Linde Star
09:25 AM on 12/13/2012
Many Veterans are our Paramedic students. Firefighters too. Life-savers.
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
10:47 AM on 12/13/2012
A lot of firemen come out of the USAF.
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Turnout
Hypocrisy: The #1 quality of American politics.
08:35 AM on 12/13/2012
And the evolution of the police state just took a pretty big leap. The proving grounds of tyranny.
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08:58 AM on 12/13/2012
Arm up!
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ipolitics123
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09:30 AM on 12/13/2012
Yep. Get ready for the permanent state of "emergency."
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Turnout
Hypocrisy: The #1 quality of American politics.
08:31 AM on 12/13/2012
That campus obviously didn't have enough "gun free zone" signs.

As we all know, those stop criminals dead in their tracks.
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Omer the 3rd
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
11:40 AM on 12/13/2012
Yo, I thought that meant they be givin us guns fo free!! Dang, shoulda stayed in school...
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rothomaha
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08:17 AM on 12/13/2012
Anyone notice the striking resemblance of those SWAT cops to armed soldiers? Is the line between federal military and local police blurring to the extent that they all will soon belong to one big happy family? No doubt, they will soon thereafter be supported by drone technology and all our newborns will have computer chips inserted in the nursery(child chips are already being used, btw) for "population tracking", similar to wolves. I know this sounds paranoid as he.l, but it is difficult to look at that picture and not imagine the future!
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MIvoter1231
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08:31 AM on 12/13/2012
Get help. Really. You are ill. Get help.
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rothomaha
The Truth will out
08:58 AM on 12/13/2012
Ya' think? Whether your MI stands for Mississippi or Michigan, I would suggest either way, that if you see a problem with what I've said it is YOU who needs help, along with an awful lot of "MIvoter(s)" in your state, given the political situations. In addition, if you've read any of the other comments here, it should be apparent that I am not alone in my perceptions - are we ALL crazy? You are aware, are you not, that it is the one who is REALLY crazy who believes himself to be the only sane person?! Peace.
08:45 AM on 12/13/2012
That's because SWAT has a lot of ex-military personal because SWAT is required to handle a very different set of situations than police. Don't confuse regular police unites with a SWAT team. They might be a part of the police but they are a different division. I'm glad you noticed how paranoid you sound, because you are.
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09:28 AM on 12/13/2012
Thank you, Fred, for explaining to the mis-informed! I also had stated many of our Paramedics and Firefighters are Veterans. (I'm am in EMS education). LIFE-SAVERS!!!!
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rothomaha
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10:33 AM on 12/13/2012
Fred, being ex-military(I am, too, btw) does NOT equate to swaggering around in battle fatigue waving M-16's in front of innocent people. A very wise, successful "veteran" once wrote that expecting an attack is the best way to stay alive - sound paranoid? Then take it up with Julius Caesar!
07:53 AM on 12/13/2012
My brother and I were one of the students held "hunkered" in a classroom within the Langsdorf Hall building at California State University at Fullerton. Though our next class was in Mihaylo Hall, where the suspect was allegedly "hiding out," we began to question why the students in Langsdorf Hall, which is next door (hundreds of feet away), were held for hours without restrooms, food, information so we decided to leave at 7:00 P.M. (this all started at 4 P.M.). We walked right by officers, knowing that if they protested we would immediately let them know they had no right to keep us. Granted, we did know the seriousness and dangerousness of the situation, but we were willing to take the risk like many others we found on campus. We safely entered the car and drove home. My brother's girlfriend's class was in the exact same building (not the same building where this was all happening) and she was unable to utilize a restroom, (the restroom they used was a trashcan while no one was looking???) and was finally released at 11:00 P.M. If somebody in the classroom had invoked their rights, the classroom would have been able to safely return home. DISCLAIMER: I apologize for my grammar, and furthermore will NOT be reading any replies; I do not care about any internet criticism. I am only stating my point of view and nothing else. Consider the events that unfold in your own light.
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08:55 AM on 12/13/2012
We were sheltered in place in the Comp Sci building and many of the profs and office staff actually decided to bail early, even though our building hadn't yet been cleared by campus security LOL. A *lot* of the other students who were parked in the same lots/structures decided to leave early and to just stay in groups for safety, so you definitely weren't the only ones who finally got tired of being hulled-up in a classroom and decided to bolt...I totally don't blame you ^_^ That's horrible that some students didn't have access to a restroom, though: our profs locked the classroom doors, but we were allowed to use the restrooms within our building (and just had to knock to get back in), and I'm guessing that's because we were further away from where the suspect was supposedly hiding out. From what I heard, in buildings nearer Mihaylo Hall, classes even barricaded doors using tables and other furniture, which I imagine was a lot of fun to move back once their buildings finally got cleared (not).

All in all, I just decided to stay until campus security gave our building the okay to leave (second-to-last of all buildings...at around 23:30 :'( ) 'cause I was able to work on classwork while we waited. I'm very glad you're safe, though ^_^
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07:39 AM on 12/13/2012
all this over zealous action is understandable coz of recent shootings in the mall people.
09:09 AM on 12/13/2012
not it isn't.
09:41 AM on 12/13/2012
I agree. I'm no friend of the police, but given recent incidents has forced the authorities to be on high alert. Lets assume the cops didn't call swat, and it turns out the suspect has a high powered rifle, what then? If tragedy does strike, anything short of overzealousness by the cops would be by most as the police's failure to provide safety. However, it seems the length of the lockdown was a bit excessive. I can't image that it would take that long to clear all of the buildings, or at leas the one in question.
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prestonmacdougall
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07:29 AM on 12/13/2012
Maybe Cal State University Fullerton should change its name to Police State University? The balance between liberty and justice seems poorly calibrated in this case.
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Turnout
Hypocrisy: The #1 quality of American politics.
08:33 AM on 12/13/2012
Sorta like how Corrections Corporations of America is assisting in school drug sweeps in Arizona. Talk about a school-to-prison pipeline.
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PeterNPaul
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07:11 AM on 12/13/2012
A quote from the LA Times:

"We don't believe he is here," Lt. Ken Alexander with the North County SWAT Team said. "We're just here as a safety precaution."
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rothomaha
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08:19 AM on 12/13/2012
And armed to the teeth!
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ge971
slightly to the left of John Lennon
08:49 AM on 12/13/2012
my lil hick town has a vehicle that looks like a mini tank such a waste of taxpayer $
We need to regulate police forces.
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GTFOOH
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06:48 AM on 12/13/2012
DOH!
06:43 AM on 12/13/2012
We all hope (and in some cases pray) of course for the safety of these students and apprehension of the suspects. We also salute the brave police officers putting their lives on the line.

But goodness the over-militarization of the police forces is really out of control. Come on. Do they need to wear military fatigues? Honestly? That's necessary? Why?

Police operate on U.S. soil and are there to serve, protect and defend the citizenry. They're not supposed to walk around like an occupying force, deploying military-level force to catch 2 robbery suspects.
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rothomaha
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08:20 AM on 12/13/2012
Precisly my thoughts!! F & F
08:49 AM on 12/13/2012
Why is it no one understands the difference between SWAT and regular police? The point is that they HAVE military grade equipment to handle situations average police can't. If people rob a bank with AK-47's, armor piercing bullets & explosives then your average police officer is already out-gunned, doubly so if the suspects have any training. SWAT doesn't walk around in a show of force. In fact you never see them unless there is A) a bomb threat or B) an armed robbery like this or C) Some crazy situation. SWAT is filled with ex-military personal and it's not surprising to carry tactical weapons because SWAT stands for Special Weapons and Tactics. They handle high-risk situations. They don't take chances. Ever.
10:39 AM on 12/13/2012
I agree totally.Most people will never know the difference......protect and serve
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02:51 PM on 12/13/2012
The reason why "no one understands the difference between SWAT and regular police", is ... duh - there isn't any big difference. They look and act like US soldiers do in foreign countries. If there is a suttle difference it's this: Some have 'SWAT' emblazoned on their front and back, and the rest have 'POLICE' emblazoned on their front and back --- but, basically, they're the same, with the same 'us vs them' attitude.
06:39 AM on 12/13/2012
It looks like they sent the military to catch the robbers wth
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KIVPossum
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06:35 AM on 12/13/2012
Typical of a police state....hold people captive against their will.
06:16 AM on 12/13/2012
""We saw all these cops coming through with – I think they were like AKs or something. They were pretty big guns," student Nate Chu told KABC."

AK47 is very good.
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Turnout
Hypocrisy: The #1 quality of American politics.
08:34 AM on 12/13/2012
But..but... I thought only soldiers should have AK's.
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Jane48
05:53 AM on 12/13/2012
Cops in overdrive. Not a good thing. Why don't they go after the real criminals in this country? The banksters? Huh?

This was ridiculous. Putting an entire campus--thousands of students in this precarious position? Who were they protecting? Hmmm, cuz it sure wasn't the students!!! Hel-looo.

This reminds me of the fiasco in Cleveland recently when the police shot off 137 bullets into a couple's car who'd been speeding. Judge, jury & executioners. Go Police. You should all be replaced.