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Duke of Abq
08:43 PM on 12/16/2012
How is it a threat for me to have the power to chose? The unions will still have members if they show they are worth the dues. Now the government will not force me to join a union in order to work in the field of my choosing. This is freedom!
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Scurvydog74
10:23 PM on 12/16/2012
Most workers don't have a right to choose anything. There is no right to organize but now there is a right to disorganize. Did you read the article? Do you realize why you have a 40 hour work week? Do you realize why 8 year olds are no longer working in coal mines? Do you realize who organized "right-to-work" laws and why? Why don't you offer to give your employer half your wages back? Why accept pay in the first place if you only work for the self-satisfaction?
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Duke of Abq
07:50 AM on 12/17/2012
The right to organize is already law right to work does not change that. Thank you unions, for the work you have done in the past and if they continue to provide a service that the rank and file see value in they will continue to prosper in a freer market. The only deference is now we have a choice to stay or leave a union. Before we had to join and pay dues even if we did not agree with the union. This will hopefully force the union leadership to be more responsive to it members and not their own selfish interests. I work for pay, and I want to be payed fairly for my work. I want to excel in my trade and be payed for what I can do. I do not want to be held back to cover for poor or mediocre workers just because we belong to a union. If I produce more and better work product I should be able to earn more. I trust myself and my employer that I chose to work for more than a union I am forced to join and pay dues to. If the union proves to me that they are as interested in me personally as they say they are in the collective then I might stay in such a union. Now we both have a choice and that is GOOD!
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brensgrrl
Viam aut inveniam aut faciam
11:50 AM on 12/17/2012
The Duke of Abq lives in a dream world where bosses reward hard work with pay increases. I have worked for 41 years, sometimes under union representation sometimes not. I'll tell you what--the non-union bosses I had NEVER gave pay raises, even after the managers of the places we contracted with begged them to raise my salary because I was such a stellar employee. One store manager begged my current non-union employer to give me a piece of paper certificate for "Employee of the Month," and they wouldn't even do that. You get nothing at all for working hard without a union. If you notice, Abq is a free rider. He wants the higher pay negotiated by the union, but does not want to support the union. Even HE doesn't want to work for an outfit where there is no union. What he wants is to exploit the union's ability to get pay and benefits for him without paying for that. These people are nothing but hypocrites and parasites, and the unions don't need them or their money. He'd be singing a different tune if he had to go in to see the boss BY HIMSELF and ask for a raise.
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Douglas Wible
When there's trouble you call DW
10:28 PM on 12/16/2012
Did you even READ the article?
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Duke of Abq
08:46 AM on 12/17/2012
Yes, and I still want my freedom to chose. If the union shows me that they care for me as an individual than I will chose to stay, if not I go. I have studied history, it was my minor and I still love it. So I know both sides of the labor history. There was racist and violence on both sides as you know.
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08:18 PM on 12/16/2012
Union lemmings receive their marching orders and will obey.
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Shouterguy
End Corporate Rule - ORGANIZE!
08:16 PM on 12/16/2012
The Right to Work as slaves.
mrrgl
No one ever becomes poor by giving..A Frank.
08:07 PM on 12/16/2012
That,s how Krupp "thrived" in post world war 1 Germany.
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Shouterguy
End Corporate Rule - ORGANIZE!
08:13 PM on 12/16/2012
And others, yes.
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Shouterguy
End Corporate Rule - ORGANIZE!
08:03 PM on 12/16/2012
Every fascist and communist government's first target is organized labor.
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Barry Harper
Birds of a feather flock together
08:00 PM on 12/16/2012
I really feel for the youth of this country that has to support a family without some sort of representation in the work world now that the employer has the upper hand . To be in fear of losing your job all the time is noway to work or live for all sorts of reasons the company comes up with .How far we have fallen !!!
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ta8ersalid
The End of the GOP Starts in Nov. 2012
07:59 PM on 12/16/2012
The story makes clear why Fox news is so dangerous to our country.
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Barry Harper
Birds of a feather flock together
08:23 PM on 12/16/2012
Our youth has to research and learn to speak for themselves ,and not believe everything that is in the news or TV .
jvtrio
Clowns to the left of me...Jokers to the right
07:46 PM on 12/16/2012
“The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned.

The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information.

With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.”

-Henry A. Wallace


“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”

-Benito Mussolini


“Fascism is actually the work of the synergistic effort of big government and big corporations working together to stifle the people. And that's what we have in America today.”

-Aaron Russo
jvtrio
Clowns to the left of me...Jokers to the right
07:44 PM on 12/16/2012
“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.... Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.”

-Franklin D. Roosevelt

“Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion.

Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."

-Henry A. Wallace
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Shouterguy
End Corporate Rule - ORGANIZE!
08:11 PM on 12/16/2012
Fanned!
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07:31 PM on 12/16/2012
I love articles which tell you how to think.
08:07 PM on 12/16/2012
this article tells me that I need to research the history of the concept of right to work
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Scurvydog74
10:26 PM on 12/16/2012
Sounds like you would rather not think at all and that's precisely what the fascist Kochs want.
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10:53 PM on 12/16/2012
Odd post, Mary.
07:28 PM on 12/16/2012
It was unions who overplayed their hand and put right to work on the ballot. People voted.
08:05 PM on 12/16/2012
according to this article, the right to work concept being around since the 1930s; it's more recent traction has been building based upon a variety of factors, some of which are not directly union based
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Flycfi
08:31 PM on 12/16/2012
He was referring to the Union ballot proposal in Michigan that pissed a lot of people off and was shot down.
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Tcolby6
06:39 AM on 12/17/2012
I don't recall the people of Michigan voting on the right to worl legalastion.
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dogreen
Proud to be from WI
07:18 PM on 12/16/2012
These are the job creators? No thanks! As we all know history repeats itself, I bet we will see the return of 'company thugs'. There is something else I got out of this article...hell hath no fury like a scorned republican!
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brensgrrl
Viam aut inveniam aut faciam
12:20 PM on 12/17/2012
We will see company thugs. I truly believe that. Look at all of the employers who were threatening their employees over the voting process and warning them that they would lose their jobs if they didn't vote Romney. That was just the tip of the iceberg. With RTW and no union protection, employees will really have to brown nose to keep jobs. For example, I have heard of actual cases where employers have told employees to "throw their gay son out of the house." They are also telling people that they cannot smoke in their homes. Non-union work of course. Soon bosses will be interfering in personal lives bigtime, telling people where they can live, what they can eat and drink, etc. This is going to get very interesting.

http://www.canmybossdothat.com/
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AndyB62
Immune to Romnesia & Romonomics
07:03 PM on 12/16/2012
The full essay is a must read for every American. I seriously doubt that anti-unionists know anything about the union movement in America. Do you like your 8 hour work day...thank a union. Do you like having weekends off...thank a union. Do you like that your child doesn't have to work to keep your family fed...thank a union. Now we have a resurgence of the Koch klan (misspelling intended) pushing union busting in Wisconsin and Michigan. There is most definitely class warfare in America. It's being fomented by the rich.
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
07:49 PM on 12/16/2012
And that my friend is why I call them conned bubbleclowns. Our country and the world for that matter would be a better place if people would learn about our true history. It is really aggravating because they call us unAmerican!

F&F
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Duke of Abq
08:49 PM on 12/16/2012
Thank you unions, Now give me the freedom to join or not. It is the rich Democrats that have forced the workers in to servitude. Right to work is only the freedom to chose for ourselves.
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AndyB62
Immune to Romnesia & Romonomics
09:44 PM on 12/16/2012
Not only did you not read the article, you don't even understand Right to Work. YOU are why American workers earn the same today as 10 year ago, while CEOs earn 200% more.
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Duke of Abq
09:11 AM on 12/17/2012
No, I read it and I believe I understand it more than you. It was a one sided article. The reason CEO's make 200% more is because they earn according to how much they produce for their bosses the stock holders. Union workers are forced to work on a scale by collective contract. If each worker was payed like CEO's some (the very best) would be payed very well and some the poor producers would be payed less. The union holds back the good workers to cover for the poor workers. I do not like that and it produces a lower production proficiency the union demands a mediocre out put. So the company does not earn as much as it could ,so it can not pay as much as it could. Get the government out of the labor business and an equilibrium will work out the union can be part of the solution are it can continue to be part of the problem. If they are part of the solution they will thrive.
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
06:40 PM on 12/16/2012
You have a RIGHT to work.................................

Getting paid for it?

Well? That's a horse of a different color.
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Flycfi
08:32 PM on 12/16/2012
I have only been denied a raise once in my life, and it was the union that denied it.
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Douglas Wible
When there's trouble you call DW
10:40 PM on 12/16/2012
Unions don't give or deny raises, you are a stinking liar.
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brensgrrl
Viam aut inveniam aut faciam
12:25 PM on 12/17/2012
Unions cannot give or deny raises. They don't write your paycheck. YOUR BOSS and YOUR EMPLOYER denied you. Wowser! I cannnot believe this comment!
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juliet marilynne
BIG BIRD TO ROMNEY: WHO'S jobless NOW, LOSERRRR?!
05:43 PM on 12/16/2012
indeed, 'right to work' has severe orwellian overtones.

the worst thing i find about it is that you can be fired WITH OR WITHOUT cause. i told my overseas friends about 'right to work' and they thought i was kidding. in civilized countries you NEED a reason to fire someone and often it has to be WELL documented, and that's the way it should be.

i don't object to being fired if i screwed up and they can show me how, but to be able to be fired 'just because' is just BS.