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08:18 PM on 12/27/2012
The CIA was ordered by this President to assist the Syrian rebels in their efforts to prosecute a civil war against the Libyan Government. The CIA commenced to arm, train, supply (including uniforms and meals) and provide all means to and for the various rebel groups, including large numbers of AQ (acknowledged by the Pentagon at that time) and other radical Islamist groups.
The US Navy and NATO (largely US forces) as well as the US Air Force set about destroying much of Tripoli when they went on the offensive (UN mandate was for a defensive posture) in their zeal to dispatch Gaddafi which resulted in many, many civilian casualties.
As SOS boasted on worldwide TV, "we came, we saw, he died" (Gaddafi). We had no useful business prosecuting a civil war in Libya, none whatsoever. But, this was BO's signature war and even the most ardent of doves, libs, and former anti-war protesters morphed into the most vicious war Hawks ever witnessed in the history of this country.
Benghazi was blowback for our aggressive participation in the Libyan civil war as well as retribution for ongoing CIA activities there. The Benghazi debacle ran counter to his administrations campaign narrative that Libya was a foreign policy success hence, all of the ducking and over we have been forced to witness.
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08:22 PM on 12/27/2012
Sorry...that's "Libyan" rebels.
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08:24 PM on 12/27/2012
And where did get your information.....fox news?
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08:28 AM on 12/28/2012
You lose. Really, your comment is not only enabling, it is so very stale. Do a little research and/ or reading outside the obviously biased media you are soooo comfortable with and you just might, emphasis on might, learn to enjoy the fresh air and enlightenment .
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
10:00 AM on 12/28/2012
On the contrary, that's real information he's got from the best journalism. Far away from Fox and I bet he dugg this with a lot of good reading. Same as I did. Voting for Obama does not mean we get blind!
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vietveter
To the FAR LEFT
07:58 PM on 12/27/2012
Mitch Rapp must have been at it again. The Washington

Post is close to the edge messing with anything he does
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Gracie fr
07:52 PM on 12/27/2012
Ansar al-Shariah is one of the more extremist fundamentalist Islamic militias that are opposed to the new General National Congress recognized by the U.S. as the official government of Libya. Ansar al-Shariah is just one of the many Libyan militias that sprang up in opposition to Gadhafi. Once Gadhafi was gone various militia groups began competing and fighting with each other. There continues to be a possibility of a bloody civil war breaking out in Libya between them. The CIA may be working in Libya to prevent that from happening.

What many of the militia groups agree on is that they are opposed to a U.S. imposed General National Congress (formerly the Transitional National Counsel) that has seized control of the Libyan government. The General National Congress (GNC) is trying to disarm the militia groups and consolidate their power. That the U.S. is backing the GNC gives many groups and militias reason to be hostile to the U.S.

As with all ME countries that have abundant oil and strategic location, the United States feels that it has the right to determe who governs. Secretary of State Clinton keeps referring to the GNC as having been democratically elected by the people of Libya, s does the New York Times. Yet no one seems to recall ever seeing smiling Libyans standing in line to vote and holding up ink stained thumbs to celebrate their new democracy. Instead the new Libyan government was chosen by the US.
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08:33 PM on 12/27/2012
It is morally, financially, and strategically wrong to create client states. Client states always lack legitimacy at home, and the results are universally unhappy. Cuba, Iran, Vietnam all come to mind as tragic endings to American client state control.
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Gracie fr
06:13 AM on 12/28/2012
....Yes....Sadly the client state enterprise is not going to end any time soon as now the "most favored" not only recieve American military largesse but economic priviliges as well...a cutting edge in the age of globalized commerce....
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
09:03 PM on 12/27/2012
That single post is able to explain Benghazy. Though I don't understand why they were so exposed and helpless.
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dowl
Lord have mercy on us all
07:28 PM on 12/27/2012
Is the GRS (Government Response Staff) a subsidiary of Halliburton or Academi (Erik Prince and Blackwater, Xe, private global mercenary soldiers, Bebe Netanyahu operatives that Mitt Romney so admires in the 47% secret tape)?

IMO, it is important to most Americans to know who GRS reports to outside (or along with) the CIA. Are recent international security 'leaks' about Benghazi and anywhere else a result of unpatriotic operatives working against America and American forces in the Middle East for personal wealth and power. Unsettling to say the least.
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
08:11 PM on 12/27/2012
I move that a lot of 'foreign service' be promptly necked down to a website. Have Virtual Diplomat, you know, skype, that kind of thing, and give a free internet 'embassy' kiosk to any country that honestly wants one, that doesn't have enough IT services in their country to be able to send official diplomatic correspondence via regular email etc. Hey, it's your damn country, you run it, we need to save some $ and get solvent again, or at least start moving in that general direction. I think every billion spent on reinforcing the status quo(Libya has oil), just perpetuates more bad behavior. If we indebted ourselves with the long-term goal of becoming an energy/economically independent country, then it might be more productive and gainful, generally. But, as long as we have Secret Yahoos that abscond with the money instead of building/maintaining at least some kind of diplomat escape pod-thing, well...it's just people on the govt. payroll acting out some kind of Tom Clancy fantasy overseas and dragging America's name further down into the mud by association. If we had any REAL intelligence, we wouldn't be importing oil anymore, because we honestly wouldn't need it. We'd have our country, the grid, running on solar-thermal and wind, and be doing the coal-into-liquid-fuel thing, and be working on things like natural gas changeovers for fleets, you know, the Good Stuff. Let other countries figure out their own 'way forward' or whatever, lose the ninja suits, and the decoder rings, and lets go Back To School, and become the country we COULD be, if we really honestly applied ourselves, here.  Nothing stopping us, but fear, and good sense.
08:39 PM on 12/27/2012
WAR PROFITEERS .
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dowl
Lord have mercy on us all
09:20 PM on 12/27/2012
Are the war profiteers associated in any way with Dick Cheney and his cruddy and cruel unpatriotic war mongers?  Adelson Rove Kochs (oh my)?
ccsysglf
question the question
07:26 PM on 12/27/2012
point missed by most... in the game of circles, very rarely is a point missed... so if you think for a minute something was overlooked, under estimated, or slipped thru a crack... WRONG....
07:19 PM on 12/27/2012
If you only really knew.
ccsysglf
question the question
07:35 PM on 12/27/2012
or if you did...
08:38 PM on 12/27/2012
Yeah, whatever, all day long.
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keramos
Unraveling the mystery . .
08:54 PM on 12/27/2012
to dream, the impossible dream
tiamo
Love one another
07:12 PM on 12/27/2012
Any CIA’s Global Response Staff in Syria ?
07:16 PM on 12/27/2012
No one on here who could be in a position to know would dream of telling you.
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07:39 PM on 12/27/2012
Does a bear do his business in the woods?
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Hirnlego II
"The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged"
12:13 AM on 12/28/2012
We know through wikileaks...
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llyd wlsh
chem, nuke, bio hazard
08:15 PM on 12/27/2012
i would believe that ANYWHERE there are conflicts happening there are grs mercanaries AND cia operatives in place

i would further expect that, at least half the time, they have created the conflict i would further expect that there are even some active in america

the spooks in the cia answer to NO ONE
08:41 PM on 12/27/2012
THEY ANSWER TO $ .
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n3542576
Publius
07:09 PM on 12/27/2012
We can't have people with guns protecting our embassies for the same reason we can't have them in our schools.
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
09:06 PM on 12/27/2012
In a war-torn country where the US had mingled vastly? It does not make sense not to be better protected!
07:07 PM on 12/27/2012
We shouldn't be using private contractors. They are loyal to the dollar and not the mission.
07:28 PM on 12/27/2012
You say this from vast experience working with former special operations soldiers and sailors now employed as security contractors, right? Oh, wait, no. Of course not.
05:18 AM on 12/28/2012
Why did they leave the military? For the big bucks as private contractors, with no military rank and file oversight.
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Sheldon archer
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07:02 PM on 12/27/2012
The CIA are in fact the world's terrorists, always illegally interfering in other countries. For instance, here are some of their activities over the years...the known ones, that is:
Communist states 1944-1989: Syria 1949: Iran 1953: Guatemala 1954; Tibet 1955-70s; Indonesia 1958; Cuba 1959; Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960-65; Iraq 1960-63; Dominican Republic 1961; South Vietnam 1963; Brazil 1964; Greece 1967; Chile 1970-73; Argentina 1976; Afghanistan 1979-1989; Turkey 1980; Poland 1980-81; Nicaragua 1981-1990; Cambodia 1980-95; Angola 1980s; Philippines 1986; Iraq 1992-1996; Afghanistan 2001; Iraq 2002-3; Venezuela 2002; Palestinian Authority, 2006-present; Somalia 2006-2007; Iran 2005-present; Libya 2011; Syria 2012
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
07:30 PM on 12/27/2012
Here's a list of CIA atrocities http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
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Sheldon archer
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11:28 PM on 12/27/2012
You know and I know. Pity the American sheeple don't know...or care
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Outside the bubble
12:22 AM on 12/28/2012
Thanks. I am bookmarking this article along with others that I consider pivotal to our discussions here.
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
08:05 PM on 12/27/2012
You are being bold in tha statement, but thank you for putting my country in that list, we know all too well what CIA means for us, sadly.
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
06:57 PM on 12/27/2012
You are removing comments of mine that had already been replied to and faved. Why I should ask when I it read was published by Newsweek and I gave them the credit for it. It was not out of my imagination
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llyd wlsh
chem, nuke, bio hazard
08:23 PM on 12/27/2012
some moderator or commentor who has, for whatever reason, the POWER didn't like what you had to say......my best comments never get posted
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ginadeoliveira2008
You got me singing...
08:52 PM on 12/27/2012
Some of mine suffer the same fate. Sometimes so well reasoned and written!
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keramos
Unraveling the mystery . .
08:57 PM on 12/27/2012
There are some hyper-mods on here.  I write them every so often to determine why comments that get deleted when others don't.  Never seem to get an answer.
06:32 PM on 12/27/2012
I wonder if they'll get their own TV show?
screwitall
excellence
07:20 PM on 12/27/2012
You bet, "Make Trouble,Will Travel"
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keramos
Unraveling the mystery . .
08:58 PM on 12/27/2012
What would it be called?  "How to win friends and kill them in an under an hour?"
06:22 PM on 12/27/2012
Being a member of this squad where it is really needed - Egypt, Yemen, Pakistan, Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan, (and soon Syria and perhaps Bahrain) - is the equivalent of a suicide mission; not just for them but for the people around them.

There was once an honorable role for the State Department, but as its mandate has been displaced by the Pentagon, paramilitary private contractors, the CIA, and gawd-knows what other clandestine U.S. spy agencies, the role of diplomat is becoming little more than that of moving target in so many countries.

You want to stay safe while abroad? Stay one thousand miles away from these guys...
06:05 PM on 12/27/2012
Without phony outrages constructed from conjecture and lies, there's no there there at Fox News.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/18/sorting-out-truth-attack-libya/

State Department officials at the hearing argued that they met other security requests and that the additional personnel would have been of little use since they would have been based in Tripoli. The attack took place in Benghazi, some 400 miles from Tripoli.

In fact, the number of guards at the Benghazi consulate when the attack occurred was at the number Nordstrom said were needed. He wanted five; three were based there permanently and two more traveled with the ambassador.

Also, Nordstrom was seeking more forces for the embassy mission nationally, not just in Benghazi. In addition, the ambassador could have brought more guards with him from Tripoli.
They were available but not deployed.

Related:

(CNN) - Most of the Republican members of a Senate committee investigating the terrorist attack at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, skipped a classified briefing by administration officials on the incident Wednesday, CNN has learned.

The missing lawmakers included Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who at the time of the top-secret briefing held a press conference in the Capitol to call for the creation of a Watergate-type special Congressional committee to investigate how and why the attack took place.
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Greta42
Let's make the House tea-free in 2014
06:03 PM on 12/27/2012
16 posted, 14 pending? How can there be a discussion?
09:14 PM on 12/27/2012
would you like to discuss this?