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12:03 PM on 07/22/2009
Cntd.
47 million un insured
20 million under insured
Subtract 10 million poor/indigent/mentally ill, etc, who are uninsured and will have to get free care = 37 mill un-insured who can pay.
18.5 million can pay $50/mo = 925,000,000
18.5 mill can pay $100 = $1,850,000,000
20 mill under insured will switch and can pay $100 = 2,000,000,000
That is a grand total of $4,775,000,000
That is FOUR BILLION, SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN PREMIUM PAYMENTS PER MONTH. FIFTY SEVEN BILLION THREE HUNDRED THIRTY MILLION PER YEAR IN PREMIUMS FOR ONE SET OF PEOPLE.
That does'nt count the millions who'll switch from private companies if they can pay $100 or 200 per month and have their entire family covered even with pre-existing conditions. Repeal bush tax cuts asap another 700 billion.
After thinking about it more, institute a 1 penny federal sales tax on EVERY item. I can hear the opponents shouting about making the poor poorer, but my statement is 1 cent on each item NOT on every dollar or hundred dollars. From candy bars tto big screen tv's to your house. 1 cent on everything. If your grocery bill was $100. for 53 items, your bill would be $100.53. That's not putting people in the poorhouse especially when we've already been dealing with price increases
12:01 PM on 07/22/2009
The basis for any public option should be:
Coverage for EVERYONE who applies
Structured premium payments of not more than 100 per individual, 300 per family
Deductibles capped out at $2000 and based on income. (Means testing every year, just like the VA)
No mandates forcing people to purchase insurance (this is a windfall for private carriers.
No subsidies to private insurance carriers
No taxes on employer provided benefits
If someone has private insurance and wants the public option, they can drop private with no problem and be covered immediately under public.
No mandates on employers to buy into the public option to cover employees. Has to be free choice.
Everyone with coverage gets treated for new or pre-existing conditions.
Fairly negotiated reimbursement to private pracitce, specialty doctors and hospitals
Fairly negotiated prices for medications, even on name brand stuff which has no generic equivalent.
AND IT HAS TO BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. Within 1 month of the above bill passing, Americans must be able to start buying in and using it.
See my next post on funding
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Roguewolf
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11:45 AM on 07/22/2009
A telling episode recounted by Senate Finance ranking member Charles Grassley reveals the Obama administration might be more worried than they are letting on that a Republican senator's comparison of the healthcare overhaul to Waterloo might be dangerously close to the truth.

Grassley said he spoke with a Democratic House member last week who shared Obama's bleak reaction during a private meeting to reports that some factions of House Democrats were lining up to stall or even take down the overhaul unless leaders made major changes.

"Let's just lay everything on the table," Grassley said. "A Democrat congressman last week told me after a conversation with the president that the president had trouble in the House of Representatives, and it wasn't going to pass if there weren't some changes made ... and the president says, 'You're going to destroy my presidency.' "

President Barack Obama on Monday shot back at Republicans who have suggested they can win political ground by opposing his healthcare reform proposals.
"This isn't about me. This isn't about politics. This is about a health care system that is breaking America's families, breaking America's businesses, and breaking America's economy," Obama said on a visit to a Washington hospital.
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amber15
12:49 PM on 07/22/2009
and Sen. Grassly certainly has no bias in reporting the so called "FACTS"........
if you believe this than I have abridge to no where I'd like to sell you.

really get a grip...........
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Wonderwheel
03:27 PM on 07/22/2009
If Obama has a problem getting the Health Care Reform passed it is only because he didn't come out in the beginning saying that the Public Option IS the compromise from "Single Payer," and if the compromise of the Public Option is not accepted then he will throw his full support behind Single Payer.
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BillZBubb
Cogito ergo sum. Cogito.
11:39 AM on 07/22/2009
It may not be Obama's Waterloo, but losing on his first major initiative would certainly diminish his leadership image and give his foes a reason to gloat. It likely would mark the beginning a of very weak presidency.
12:52 PM on 07/22/2009
I totally agree. The milque toast effect will be enhanced since Obama is already perceived as reneging on everything he promised for change, and is in fact extending the destruction of America engineered by Bush and the neocons.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that all this has been planned and plotted, from the economic meltdown, the destruction of the WTC with thermite and 9/11, the dumbing down of the population years in the making, the extension of the corporate and industrial complex dictatorship.

Americans should have been marching in their multiples of millions in every state for the implementation of a single payer system,there should have been strikes all over the country, and instead the dumbed down population is going to shrug and continue eating their Macdonald fries. Israel is the winner, the only institution which has colluded with this Bolshevikization of America.

We deserve being thrown into the gutter. We had it all, but our arrogance and stupidity did us in. The rest of the world stopped trusting and respecting America when Bush came along. Why would anyone invest in a country with no rule of law? In many ways Bush succeeded in doing what he wanted: To destroy America and bring about some crazed new world order, but Obama will have succeeding in nothing but the implementation of the neocons' crazed idea of ruling the world.
He is a failed president barely more than 100 days in office.