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Bill Jones123
02:11 PM on 01/11/2013
There is a strong negative correlation between SF state ratings and student achievement.

SF rating of states is not by achievement but by POLICY.

Please note that Rhee is no longer working at the LOCAL LEVEL. She and here posse are now working at the state levels well away from local parents and school boards.

This lady is pretty much telling parents that their children are wards of the state.

This is big government run amok. I hope you all like it.
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01:12 PM on 01/11/2013
West Virginia received a failing grade in student achievement, yet we ranked in the Top 10 in accountability and measurement standards. So, we're real good at the measuring achievement, but not so good at the achievement part. Can anyone tell me the benefit to that? It seems that the politicians' solution, accountability and measuring student performance to hold teachers accountable has proven to have no effect on actual outcomes. Perhaps we should finally start listening to teachers who advocate for less emphasis on standardized testing, smaller class sizes, and greater parental involvement.
09:17 PM on 01/11/2013
Congress is measuring their achievements in the past year as the benchmark, enough said!!
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07:34 AM on 01/13/2013
and your point is???
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Bubbawubba Gump2
01:08 PM on 01/11/2013
The US is in bad shape. If Florida is in the top 10 then the curve is skewed. I live in FL and education is being systematically demolished by the crooked legislature and our Governor-in-Thief, stealing money from the budget to pay their fat-cat friends in unneeded pork projects. Teachers are also forced to teach the test, they aren't educating students they are forcing them to memorize specific data to pass our FCAT. There IS a difference!! My kids are in private school and if they could afford it everyone's would be!
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Lhsivad
All great truths begin as blasphemies
01:38 PM on 01/11/2013
I left that backwoods state when my oldest daughter entered High school because the education system is a joke, your observation is dead on accurate.
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dancingstu
Christian, liberal lawyer
02:54 PM on 01/11/2013
Kids in Louisiana are barely literate but Louisiana was ranked higher than Connecticut. This ranking is a bunch of bull.
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Dwight Hebert
05:28 PM on 01/11/2013
Here is the link to the original article. Down about 2/3 of the page on the right are several PDF links for the various sub-rankings. Look at K-12 achievement. I don't what they were smoking but Louisiana is above average in over-all rankings but 47th in student achievement.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2013/01/10/16sos.h32.html?tkn=RLRF%2B4mUV1fjxGZAPk7Od%2FfW1p2K2SFHTAx9&cmp=clp-edweek&intc=EW-QC13-EWH
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:37 PM on 01/11/2013
As usual there's lotsa RWNM (and left) snark trying to look at this thru sound bytes and it's something that you can't do. You have to look at each states funding mechanism and policies.
But you can bet that once the electorate in the state counts it as valuable they provide a steady funding stream......like Calif. did before prop. 13, they would have been near the top if this was done in the early 70's but since prop. 13 it's gone to the middle and was probably lower than that at one point. You can blame the RWNM mantra for 'lower taxes at all costs' for than, only now is the Calif. electorate finding out the repercussions of that, and Brown wants to fix it. And yes you need money. Teaching in human intensive you have to pay and benefit folks decently to do that.....what has been lacking is showing the benefit of doing that over time. Sadly we're too short term oriented, we want improvement magically overnight.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:23 PM on 01/11/2013
Like all other measures Calif. falls in the middle.
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12:20 PM on 01/11/2013
One needs to look at this in context. Most education is funded and staffed at the local level rather than the state level, although state aid to K-12 education is a factor. I guess that South Dakota's large Native American population suffering from the neglect of decades may have as much to do with South Dakota's state wide average as anything else.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:24 PM on 01/11/2013
Yup and Calif. is mostly thru Sacremento altho Brown wants to give more local control.
barbara jay
my kid says hi
02:37 PM on 01/11/2013
That was my first thought. I have friends living in South Dakota and they say that the level of poverty among Native Americans is very sad. I was also pretty surprised though to hear that in their own city, which boasts a university campus (they teach there), foreign language instruction in public schools starts in the ninth grade, not before, and that's even for the better students.
11:44 AM on 01/11/2013
Well I guess a D+ is better than a D-.
09:08 AM on 01/11/2013
my state didnt even make the list lmao saddddd
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Rubberband Man
03:39 PM on 01/11/2013
whaaaa? lmao
03:51 PM on 01/11/2013
for real :( im in maine lmao
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Texan POd
08:58 AM on 01/11/2013
Some interesting numbers from the list.

2. Massachusetts 84.1 (Romney)
10. Kentucky 80.1 (McConnell)
12. Ohio 79.6 (Boehner)
14. Texas 79.4 (* Bush)

28. Illinois 76.7 (Obama) __\ ____ Take your pick
29. Hawaii 76.7 (Obama) __/
36. California 75.5 (Pelosi)
50. Nevada 69.7 (Reid)
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10:34 AM on 01/11/2013
Your list appears to be an example of the "cum hoc" logical fallacy in which it is presumed that because two things occur together they are causally related. Massachusetts enjoyed a solid reputation for its schools before Mr. Romney arrived, during his tenure as governor, and after he left. His "accomplishments" with respect to education in Massachusetts derived mainly from his leaving well enough alone; e.g., not trying to neuter the teachers' unions and not attempting to gut the state's tax support for its schools.
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gerry978
10:57 AM on 01/11/2013
also, the State legislators have more to do with their States' education performance
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Texan POd
11:37 AM on 01/11/2013
Nothing on the bottom half of the list?

Pelosi and Reid have life-long influence in their States.

It shows ....
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calamityjohn
11:17 AM on 01/11/2013
holy cherry picking .... randomly choosing politicians from various branches and time periods and assigning the educational output of entire states to them ?? really ??? where were you educated ?
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Texan POd
11:43 AM on 01/11/2013
Random politicians????

Current President
2 month old Presidential candidate
Previous President
Current Speaker of the House
Current Minority Leader of the House
Current Leader of the Senate
Current Minority Leader of the Senate

No need to ask where you were educated.
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sydneymoon
06:38 AM on 01/11/2013
Yea, for my home state of Maryland!
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dancingstu
Christian, liberal lawyer
02:58 PM on 01/11/2013
Don't get too excited. This system put Louisiana ahead of Connecticut. Yeah, that says it all.
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Rubberband Man
03:40 PM on 01/11/2013
OMG you keep saying that - yet there it is. But I guess your comments on this page overrule any study. GTFOH carpet bagger
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trinity
04:55 PM on 01/14/2013
Actually even Forbes Magazine (who ranks CT pretty high and the southern states pretty low), ranks MD in the top 5...MA is usually #1 for them...
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CosmoSmith
04:04 AM on 01/11/2013
Oh ha ha ha on me. Mea Culpa!

Should have read:

Must of left Texas out of the equation.

E Q U A T I O N.

Then I had an (self-righteous) "Look it up."

Talk about instant karma.
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CosmoSmith
04:03 AM on 01/11/2013
Must of left Texas out of the equation.

E Q A T I O N.

Look it up.
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Texan POd
08:39 AM on 01/11/2013
14. Texas

Look it up
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Jerry Bourbon
01:51 PM on 01/11/2013
Texas is 14.

22 places ahead of Blue California...
03:27 AM on 01/11/2013
In California school districts favor hiring recent graduates, some of whom do not even have credentials yet, over experienced teachers to save money. No wonder the state received a C grade. How can teachers juggling full-time teaching with attending college to complete their credentials do an adequate job in the classroom?
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Mason Hernandez
03:59 AM on 01/11/2013
I don't know how it is in the rest of the nation. But in California, your education is only as good as your neighborhood. And as any Californian knows, we have more than our share of bad neighborhoods.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:28 PM on 01/11/2013
Yup and since prop 13 there is no steady reliable funding stream, it's now at the whim of Sacramento and relying on variable streams from them and sales taxes.
Sadly it shows. Middling.
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roaddawg31
10:33 AM on 01/11/2013
What are you talking about? In CA, districts aren't hiring. Anyone they can bring on to their workforce is someone that they previously laid-off.
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Jerry Bourbon
12:07 PM on 01/11/2013
Or someone in "full time substitute" status...
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MsEli34
Your reply? I probably don't care.
03:00 AM on 01/11/2013
Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia were in the top ten? Um, okay. They should have thrown Mississippi and Louisiana in the top ten too since they were just randomly ranking states.
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Rubberband Man
03:22 AM on 01/11/2013
boo hoo!! the study didnt give the results I like so it must be fake!
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MsEli34
Your reply? I probably don't care.
08:19 AM on 01/11/2013
Dearest, I'm from the South. I live in the South. I am very familiar with the educational standards in each of those states. As demonstrated by your comment, it is quite lacking. 
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Kilameri1
Red states & whites are #1 in welfare
02:56 AM on 01/11/2013
I find iinteresting that 8 out of ten states on top are on the east coast.
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Jerry Bourbon
01:51 PM on 01/11/2013
More urban? Higher percentage of students' parents are college graduates?
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Rubberband Man
03:43 PM on 01/11/2013
Well half of them are Southern states on the East coast, so idk about more urban, however there are urban areas in all states