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thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
11:59 AM on 01/28/2013
well, you've got me started on re-readng my bible. are these verses quoted the most violent in the bible or are there others? I'm betting on others right now.
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alterego55
Resident tea grinder.
11:58 AM on 01/29/2013
My favorite is the one that tells you that if you mortally beat your slave, make sure he lives a day or two if you want to stay in God's good graces.
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Counterglow
Werner Heisenberg may have been right.
03:57 PM on 01/29/2013
Well, the one about accepting the surrender of a city state, then murdering all the men and male children, and all the women who weren't virgins, then selling the survivors, little girls, into prostitution...that was a bit over the top, in my humble opinion.
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gal416
is a Bible verse † † †
11:36 AM on 01/28/2013
Psalm 137 7-9 is a prayer that asks that God's will be done. We say the same thing when we recite the Lord's Prayer, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." The Bible says that " whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Psalm 137 7-9 is an Israelite prayer asking God to allow the Babylonians to reap what they have sown (see verse 8), to which He later obliged.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
12:00 PM on 01/28/2013
soooo. god's will is to dash the babies brains out against rocks. hmmm......
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fraublucher2011
12:36 PM on 01/29/2013
only a particular type of baby... they had ot be Babylonian and they had to be the offspring of those who had done so to Israel... just those in the { } not any other...
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Fentwin
Sedagive?
01:24 PM on 01/28/2013
So God is the great abortionist, post birth in this case.
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gal416
is a Bible verse † † †
07:36 PM on 01/28/2013
And He's going to abort you and me sooner or later. So what?
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RickO
Musician, Atheist
09:27 AM on 01/28/2013
This is, by far, not the most violent passage. If the psalms were indeed poetic musings, these passages are no more violent than heavy metal lyrics, which merely express violence allegorically.

The real violence are the hundreds of passages, mainly in the old testament, where characters such as Moses, Joshua and even God himself, command genocidal slaughter, abuse of women and children, condone slavery and human sacrifice, including one's own children etc. And these aren't merely poems. These are regarded and even revered by many believers as historical fact and the actual actions of people and commandments of their god.
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Fentwin
Sedagive?
01:25 PM on 01/28/2013
"...these passages are no more violent than heavy metal lyrics..."

I don't think there are many people who claim that the lyrics to hevay metal music are the words of an omin-everything god.
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Tasha Kostolany
02:09 AM on 01/30/2013
lol . . . . well . . .. . at least no one would is *NOT* tripping on drugs while they are listening, anyway
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AuldLochinvar
01:05 PM on 02/13/2013
"The real violence " -- I dunno, getting a virgin pregnant without telling her first, in order to sacrifice the offspring by a horrible judicial murder, so that a perfect "man" could atone for the sin of Adam and Eve -- well it seems not only cruel, but improbable and ill-considered.
10:43 PM on 01/27/2013
The Hebrew was commanded to "come out of her", this meant that these were special people chosen by God. Where they were surrounded by sinful nations, He did not wish them to be polluted by foreign cultures. That's why He did not want the males to marry females outside of their culture. Look at what happened to the kings of Israel when they did, usually they brought destruction to themselves and Israel. Yes, the bible is full of violence, but necessary violence. Very similiar to when we go to war to protect our nation's interests, culture, and people.
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Ekimus
True Believer
01:41 PM on 01/28/2013
Sounds like racism to me.

And "necessary violence"?! Really?! When is the slaughter of defenseless children EVER a "necessary violence"?!

AN absolutely SICK rationalization.
08:34 PM on 01/28/2013
You did not live in the world that they did. The things they did were because God commanded them to do it. Those people died a long time ago. If you want to get angry read about Julius Caesar when he went to conquer the Rhineland, the things He did to the German people make the Hebrews humane by comparison.
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Counterglow
Werner Heisenberg may have been right.
04:03 PM on 01/29/2013
Yes, dashing out the brains of infants is an inescapable necessity!

ROFL. If nothing else, religious types are an excellent source of amusement.
10:44 PM on 01/29/2013
Your not another atheist are you? Feeling rather big that you can pigeon hole religious types. Infants are killed everyday in our enlightened 21st century. What have you and the other atheists done lately to stop infanticide, since your such an enlightened group of people.
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Ortist
09:22 PM on 01/27/2013
Is it the most violent? There's a lot of competition for the title . . .
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MANravensUTD
"Greatness is a lot of small things done well, sta
06:36 PM on 01/27/2013
If you've ever read the Old Testament, it reads a bit like a slasher novel. Entertaining, yes. Gory, yes. I'm inclined to think this passage is metaphorical, but then again, was education such at the time that the regular people understood such a concept? Remember that the priests ran the show. Needless to say, this is very interesting.
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StevenM
High School Chess Coach
03:11 PM on 01/27/2013
Is the Bible moral? Slavery was abolished in the US in (1863-1865), but the Bible condones slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46; Ephesians 6:5; Colossians 3:22; & 1 Peter 2:18), even to the point of legislating how to sell one's daughter as a sex-slave (Exodus 21:7-11). The Bible advocates the death penalty for rebellious children (Exodus 21:17; Leviticus 20:9; & Deuteronomy 21:18-21), which goes far beyond the current debate whether it is moral to use corporal punishment (Proverbs 22:13-15), to advocate capital punishment for misbehaving children. The Bible advocates ethnic cleansing and genocide, including the mass slaughter of non-combatant old men, women, children and even infants (Numbers 21:35; 31:15-18; Deuteronomy 2:34; 20:16-17; Joshua 10:40, 11:8 & 21-23; 1 Samuel 15:3); but the US and International Courts hold such acts as crimes against humanity. The Bible also advocates capital punishment for adultery (Leviticus 20:10); male homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13); as well as for doing yard work between Friday sundown and Saturday sundown (Exodus 35:2; Numbers 15:32-36). And most Christians do yard work on the Sabbath/Saturday. Given the above evidence, which is more moral, our modern society today, or the Bible?
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
03:34 AM on 01/28/2013
It's all just metaphors, silly.
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Daniel Vidal
The Adversary can quote scripture to his ends.
05:16 AM on 01/28/2013
When it's allegorical, yes. But when it's laws, it says what it says.
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fraublucher2011
01:30 PM on 01/28/2013
no it ain't
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Robert Ponce
"Let's go Eight to the bar."
11:25 AM on 01/27/2013
Consensus will never be achieved. As in political polemics, one comment can, and has, shut peoples reasoning on the spot. For the most part, human justice, when confronted with any issue, will try to get to the bottom of the issue and not just rely one or two pieces of evidence. The verses in question, in and of themselves, shine differently on the reader. Although many view The Bible god as sanguinary, it's not for nothing, He's done what He's done. Some may conclude without the full evidence for the action(s). With this myopic stance, reasoning has gone out the window. The full history of Edom's rise, reveals, to begin with, God instructing Israel 'not to hate Edom' because he is 'your brother'. Israel tried but as Edom grew in wealth and power, would not leave Israel alone. It wasn't just harassment on Edom's part. Edom slaughtered young and old alike. Century after century, Edom showed no mercy, remorse or pity on Israel..Literally! Not metaphorically! Not figuratively! Then, Edomite hatred was clearly revealed as they urged on, the devastators of Jerusalem (Ps 137:7), rejoiced at Judah’s tragedy, and in their enmity and desire for revenge even turned over Judean escapees for slaughter by the Babylonians (men, women and infants). After centuries of Edomite wickedness, they found the end of God's patience. BY 70 c.e., Edom ceased to exist as a people. There are no descendants left.
09:42 AM on 01/27/2013
When it takes an army of theologians and interpreters to try to make sense of something (even something as small as a few sentences), I would say it is time to declare goobledegook. Especially when they all come up with something different. That is my interpretation of this passage. It is complete goobledegook from someone who appears to be p/i/s/sed off. Just ignore it.
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Zariana
For SCIENCE!!!
08:33 AM on 01/27/2013
Interesting. I wonder if the fictional tale told in Exodus came about during this period to give hope to people displaced from their homeland.
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Ekimus
True Believer
01:51 PM on 01/28/2013
Good guess.
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littlehwk
fly high
07:40 AM on 01/27/2013
God in the old testament was an unforgiving God and live sacrafices were required. And when they killed they were to even kill the animals to wipe out all of evil of that city. Eye for an eye.
Then in New Testament we have Jesus who made the sacrafice for us. Thats my take on what I've read.
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Acorn Tree
in the beginning man created god.
03:45 AM on 01/28/2013
none of that happened .
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06:10 AM on 01/27/2013
No one can analyse the brutality of the Babylonian captors without reading prophet Jeremiah and his prayers to God to spare his beloved Jewish people the terrible experience with the Babylonians. He knew about it in advance and cried and prayed for it not to come. Do you know the reply message that he got (according to Jewish scholars)?
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05:54 AM on 01/27/2013
One of the posts following this article triggered a thread of 9 pages (font 11).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/LE_PHILANTROPE_AVERTI/psalm-137-7-9-understandi_n_2550586_225039829.html

The topic deserves more rational, calm, well argumented posts.
I propose direct comments and questions?
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
04:49 AM on 01/27/2013
This is far from the only passage advocating murdering infants. The Bible advocates genocide against Canaanites, Amorites, and five other nations, including their infants, and describes how Moses allegedly did that against 2 Amorite kingdoms. But regardless of whether Moses existed or not, that is what they believed, and even today some Christians and Orthodox Jews defend it.