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12:07 AM on 02/15/2013
Oh My Gooodnesssssss.. You guys, did anyone of you get the chance to see Martinez question jodi about an e-mail she sent to Travis yesteray? They were voir dire (sp) He went after her with rapid fire approach. Asking how the e-mail was sent to travis that I guess was subject headed "friendship" She said it was forwarded and he shot back at her that itwas sent directly even took the copy of the e-mail to her and had her read what it said. of course nurmi whined Objection. The good news there was a sneak peak how he was goingto approach.. when its finally time tostop hearing "the jodi arias story" narrative and steer thisback to what matters in this case.. justice for Travis. I CANNOT WAIT until next week!!!!
06:10 AM on 02/16/2013
You mean any abuse Travis hit Jodi with is somehow excusable because she manifested symptoms of a Stockholm case (e.g. you want to be friends with your abuser)?

What is really your idea of justice--is it just when some woman is made to shed her blood before the gaze of the American publican, regardless of what she did, as long as she committed the crime of having sex with some man? Women are guilty of something, anything, no matter what they've done, according to people of your mentality--is that it?
08:43 AM on 02/16/2013
WHAT on earth are you talking about? Did I say any abuse is excusable>Maybe youshould re read things I have written if you want to jump on me with abunchof babble.I don't even knowhow to answer this. but will try. My point was next week whenthe prosecuter cross examines Jodi. She will not be handled with kid gloves as she has been the past week by her lawyers. She has been able to tellher entire life story. Iwhich she is entitled to as her life is hanging in the balance- she has the right to try to help the jury get to know her so maybe they may be empathtic and not sentence her to death. BUT she is getting wayy off track. This is a case about a BRUTAL MURDER at HER hands. No evidence of abuse is
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04:11 PM on 02/17/2013
Sounds as if she's really enjoying herself, doesn't she, she '' CANNOT WAIT until next week!!!!''

I say something like that when I'm looking forward to a lovely time!

She, and those of her ilk, just can't wait to hear the verdict of death :/ Disgraceful.
08:49 AM on 02/16/2013
Is being given Not physical. Yes Travis was pretty cold in txt msgs toher. Did she deservve some of the things he said. no - do we know what she said to him> no. this is all one sided.I have known so many women who have been abused in every way- they do not act the way she is-NO ONE knows the full story except Travis and jodi and he is not here annymore. You forget shewentafter him
she was obsessed with him. shewould not let him go. ALL of his friends who KNEW herhad nothing but creepy odd things to describe her she slashed his tires. she snuck into his house. she spyedon him and girlfriends. she e-mailed his girlfriends threatening them tostay away. she should have left and never gone back ifhewasthe abusive pig shes made himm out to be.
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02:05 PM on 02/16/2013
Er... noo, He wouldn't let her go. TA was an abuser, an abusive narcissist; like all abusdive narcissist's, they see to it that they have a flawless appearance to their friends; TA did just that, but he led a double life, he told his friends he didn't want her and that she was stalking him, but he kept calling her--I know, I have followed the whole case.
Did he care about her? No, did he sodomise her? Yes. Did he use her for sex? Yes, and after she agreed to play out one of his fantasies (one of many, I might add), he used her body, said nothing and threw her a Toblerone on the ground (just like you would do with a dog) and after he used her body he discarded her and dated other women, throwing her feelings of love for him in her face, time and time again. TA was a paedophile too.

If all this isn't abusive, I don't know what is, kndykss.
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Heather June Soper
02:18 PM on 02/16/2013
The very same vile pair of witnesses, (one they had to subpoaena), Chris Hughes, sent an email to TA telling him he was treating Jodi badly, but Martinez didn't want evidence that would support Jodi's evidence, saying it was a forgery, but it was a copy of the original email.What THIS means, is that Martinez will PLAY DIRTY to kill her!
The US is one of only a few countries who still executes; being that we are civilised we don't do that..
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07:54 PM on 02/14/2013
That's interesting. He said "the state has the ability to put on a rebuttal case."

I wonder if they could bring these experts up there to talk about her lack of natural emotion when talking about these things.

Certainly, they will demonstrate that she encouraged and willingly participated in the role playing.
06:12 AM on 02/16/2013
Trauma theorists have been stating for a long time that traumatized people show a dead affect, especially when they're asked what are considered factual questions about their trauma. The simple facts of the trauma don't evoke emotion from trauma victims--it's only when they're forced to literally relive the affects that caused the trauma that they're able to show the emotion associated with this trauma. The events that cause the trauma itself do not cause any reaction at all--it's all in the case studies.
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06:35 PM on 02/17/2013
Do traumatized people also change their story over and over again?
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Heather June Soper
03:10 PM on 02/16/2013
Don't you know, that these so called ''experts'' are Biased! One has only to hear Nancy Grace!
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06:30 PM on 02/17/2013
fair enough
04:01 PM on 02/14/2013
Jodie's attorney is dragging this on way to long... Way too drawn out and yes i realize this is a death penalty case but we want to know why she murdered Travis and in such a cruel way at that!! Lets get real... Jodie is human indeed ...she loved all of the sex and fantasies, dirty words, name calling and played all kind of games which I'm sure both enjoyed. I think she is twisting meaning of what Travis said in many situations and is very manipulative knowing how to push Travis's buttons..ie. trying to make him jealous! jodie was not a pleaser... She is a manipulator who committed cold blooded murder from rage. Lets not forget she was not wanting to follow rules at home.. She wants things her way well lets hope the jury catches this. Still not at the evidence of the crime scene or the cruelty of the brutal murder she fully and solely committed.
06:16 AM on 02/16/2013
She was "following the rules," but at the same time she also "wanted things her way"? Which is it? Was she just being a doormat in order to manipulate him, or was she angry about being a doormat? Because if she was just manipulating him, she wouldn't have had anything to be angry about--she would have felt she was in total control if she were manipulating him.

Rage doesn't just come from the vacuum cleaner's malfunctioning; it typically comes from a long history of abuse that causes the person who manifests the rage to just snap.

But then again, I suppose you think that women just have all this unexplained rage that doesn't need a reason--after all, all women are just irrational animals, incapable of human rights or human dignity as far as you're concerned; is that it?
08:48 PM on 02/16/2013
TA and her relationship is so typical of young adults today. This is why this case is so apparent.

Jodi was "following the rules" but got sick of TA. He was playing her in a tumultuous affair with all the (consensual) sex games included. On June 4, 2008, Jodi "wanted things her way." Throughout their relationship she "was just being a doormat." Most likely she (like so many other hopeless romantic chicas) participated in this red-flag relationship to get the attention she desired. If it meant retaining his attention through sex, than so be it. But, "she (grew) angry about being a doormat."

O, and did Jodi have rage. Justifiable rage. But Jodi's rage does not justify TA's brutal death.

If as women we long for equality, why does it not apply when we take the stand?

This facade of a woman is NOT the poster-child for the real battered women and domestic abuse victims. Jodi is an adult and was totally capable of walking away at any point throughout their messy fling.
02:43 AM on 02/17/2013
Reread my comment..she didn't want to follow rules while living at home.. So snapping and committing murder is justified because of her long so called abuse? It's a shame to those truly abused. Your comment doesn't make any sense...unexplained rage that doesn't need a reason?? Huh? Reread your comment. Human rights and Human dignity does not give people freedom to brutally murder others. Apparently you are a very bitter individual. Sounds like you could go into a rage! What do you know about abuse? She tried manipulating him thru sex in hopes of marriage which he would have never done which put her in a rage... Duh!
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03:27 PM on 02/22/2013
She can't recall any of it. She claimed Travis charged at her and she went blank. She also said that men like Juan Martinez and Travis Alexander make her brain scramble.
03:31 PM on 02/14/2013
I am convinced she kept stabbing and shooting him because "he would not die."
06:30 AM on 02/16/2013
Oh really? it's not possible that even his death would never take away everything that he did to her to cause such a violent reaction on her part--because even if you kill your abuser, the abuse itself "doesn't ever die." You have to live with what was done to you for the rest of your life, even if you kill the person who did it to you--emotional abuse is far more detrimental than physical abuse in so many cases, precisely because it doesn't leave a mark of legitimacy, some sign at which the abused can point at and say, "This was what was done to me!" There's no evidence of abuse if it's emotional--hence the build up of rage. Hence the attempt to be friends to try to find some sort of resolution for what she'd gone through, some way of dealing with it in a peaceful manner--and it's exactly like a sadist to refuse such an offer of friendship--because a sadist wants to know that he's still making his victim suffer long after their apparent ties have been cut.

Maybe you get some vicarious thrill that Jodi might be killed because her human spirit "would not die." I hope that's not the case--because I may meet you, by accident, at a point when you've gotten tired of hoping to see the state do the killing you want done for you.
03:26 PM on 02/14/2013
Well, it turns out that Alexander was no chaste Mormon nor was he wholly kind to Arias. He kept her around for sex, but did not want to marry her. Every time he describe her in some unflattering term during that telephone call, Arias encouraged him. She admitted that she encouraged him by never letting him know that any of his conduct disturbed her. There is not a hint from her to him that she does not like his actions or his words.
But SELF DEFENSE has always meant that a person may use deadly force on a person when that person is in imminent danger of deadly force being used on them? How can one call this imminent danger of deadly force. So far we have heard nothing thatcan justify this self-defense defense. Will we be hearing that Travis, while nude in the shower, used deadly force on Arias? Should we expect this testimony? Why would a nude man in a shower pick that particular time to get rough with a woman? If we can kill anyone we want because they are mean to us and because we , due to our faulty psychological makeup, unreasonably believe we cannot leave such a person, what kind of society are we going tobe left with? what kind of attitude and conduct will this encourage?
11:02 PM on 02/14/2013
Something weird happened but no one pre-plans to murder their boyfriend by stabbing him 27 times she could have shot him and left. If it was pre planned That is a RAGE!! And she will not get off this is a up hill battle for defense attorney he wants to save her from the death penalty. Who knows what sick sex game they may have been playing. I think The judge really did get sick and wont be back till Tuesday.
01:06 PM on 02/15/2013
She doesn't have to plan the details like it's a wedding.

She knew she was going to kill him.
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09:43 AM on 02/14/2013
While the explicit testimony on the witness stand makes me cringe, the armchair analysis offered in this article makes me cringe more. Spewing words and phrases like "psychopathy, lack of affect, disconnect, normal empathy that she should be displaying, sociopath" does no one any good safe the advertisers on this page.

Jodi Arias ended the life of Travis Alexander.
The jury must decide to put her to death, incarcerate her for life, offer her parole after 25 years, send her to a mental institution, or let her go free.
Armchair pop-psychology should not play a role.

Is this jury sequestered?
03:24 PM on 02/15/2013
The news media has mentioned that the jury is not exposed to all the excessive details that we encounter daily. Legal pundits have mentioned, the jury won't ever know about her immature, stalker behavior leading up to her fatal road trip.

This is why this case is upsetting (along with knowledge of the previous legal proceedings, i.e. C. Anthony case); I really don't want to see her walk. As a female, I am just uncomfortable with this killing to somehow result in being "OK" simply because her feelings got hurt.

There needs to be more accountability!
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04:18 PM on 02/15/2013
Take heart. Our justice system provides the accountability.
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07:34 PM on 02/17/2013
Typical reply I would expect from you, you can't wait to have her put down, can you. How exciting for you.

You're uncomfortable?? Just because her feelings got hurt? You don't know what you're talking about, I pray to God the jury don't think like you do.

You don't want evidence to the contrary, you make that very clear that all you want is for her to die. What sort of a person Are you?

The more honest a person is, the less they are believed, and why? Because believing she has lied is far more exciting than the boring honest truth.
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Heather June Soper
02:27 PM on 02/16/2013
I completely agree with you, its appalling; yet another hater, I suppose.. .
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06:11 AM on 02/14/2013
The defense are trying to drag this case out as long as possible because the more time she is up on that stand talking about herself, the more the jury will see her as a person and, more importantly, the less they will think of the victim as a person. Some have suggested that this woman and her lawyer are playing the roles of Roxy Hart and Billy Flynn in a revival of Chicago, but I disagree. Chicago has a musical score and a script that both need to be adhered to; this show is a no-holds-barred, anything-goes freak show with no direction, no limits, and no shame.
06:34 AM on 02/16/2013
Yeah,, how could the jury see the defendant as a person? After all, she's a woman, and women aren't people to people like you, anyway, right? Perhaps especially if you're a woman...

How sure are you that you've ever "thought outside the box"?
12:37 AM on 02/14/2013
Mr. Martinez CANNOT go easy on her. If the jury feels like the prosecutor feels sorry for Jodi, then why shouldn't they too? He must make sure the jury understand he feels, he really believes she is the brutal murderer she is. If doesn't show his disdain, then the jury will feel like it's ok to go soft on her because even the guy prosecuting her feels sorry for her.
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02:34 PM on 02/16/2013
I disagree; I don't think he believes it--he's there, put there By the State to prosecute and he wants to kill her, he has refused evidence that is backed up by Jodi's testimony.

The State of AZ has even violated the order of the court.
02:02 AM on 02/20/2013
Ya right, it is all one big conspiracy to get this piece of trash. You should be glad that the rules of evidence went in favor of Jodi. Otherwise the jury would know about the stalking, the slashing of tires, the overnight ritual she did outside of Travis's house, the plea bargain she sought, sneaking into Travis's house uninvited, and the forged letters she wanted to use. If the court wasn't concerned about her right to a fair trial they would have allowed all of this in and she would be on death row real soon where she belongs. Good for Jodi that they allowed her to spew her lies on the stand without any evidence to back it or she wouldn't of had more than a few paragraphs to speak.
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02:27 PM on 02/20/2013
All this tells me, is that you judge by your own standards.
09:29 PM on 02/13/2013
I do think there is any excuse for this murder she will get life but not the death penalty.
I think Travis stating on the tape that he raped her is pretty gross to ignore it & pretend
he is a choir boy is ridiculous perhaps water seeks its own level. Both these people had no moral compass their relationship had an absence of any beauty to me, Two very sad lonely people who were unable to have a real relationship. There Religious feelings were as hollow as their relationship.
06:38 AM on 02/16/2013
So Jodi should have her life taken away from her--she should spend the rest of her life inside prison--because she was driven to rage by abuse that she couldn't get the law to do anything about? Cases in which a bf or a husband or even a date are tried for rape are laughed out of court nowadays--there is little if any defense of women in our legal system. And you want to take this woman's life away, in one way or another?
08:29 AM on 02/16/2013
I haven't heard her testimony yet as to why she stabbed him, shot him etc. so i cannot state whether she should get murder 1, 2 Manslaughter but she was not living with him, not married to him he was not supporting her she should have ended her relationship. She went on her free will to his home, you cant compare that to a wife or someone living with an abusive partner. Also the fact that she lied earlier can hurt her. Again i do not believe in the death penalty. I think people need to hear her testimony.
08:01 PM on 02/13/2013
How do we know that Jodi didn't sent those texts herself from his phone ??? she was at his house a lot she had access to his cell !!
06:43 AM on 02/16/2013
Ooooooh, the *evil woman* simply *must* have sent any incriminating evidence to herself--her abuser couldn't have done it, right?

And even if Jodi texted the so called victim with a request to be friends--that's so traditional Stockholm syndrome behavior; when you've been beaten on multiple levels, raped, etc, it's hard to separate yourself from the person who did it to you.

I myself was raped. And it was hard for me to not to try to reach out to my rapist (it was a date rape, so I knew I'd get no justice from the court system so I didn't bother to prosecute it); it was hard for me to restrain myself from trying to make a friend of my rapist. I've read that this is not an uncommon reaction to people who have suffered intense abuse like this.
06:33 PM on 02/13/2013
She takes no responsibility for her life. Everything that happened between her and Alexander was all HIS idea. She just went along with it because it was what HE wanted and she wanted to make HIM happy. Take some friggin' responsibility! I guess the new defense for any murder will be the sex defense. Because what man (or woman) doesn't enjoy sex? I mean, seriously? This whole trial is a publicity joke. If this was anyone else, the closing arguements would have already been presented and the jury would be deliberating. I can't believe the things the judge is allowing in this trial. It's like the merry-go-round from hell.
06:44 AM on 02/16/2013
You mean all the abuse she suffered at his hands, on multiple levels, not the least of which was sexual, was somehow HER idea? And the jury and judge shouldn't see this? Why do you want to see this woman lose her life because she was victimized? Seriously, I would like to know where you are coming from here.
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06:17 PM on 02/13/2013
After all this droning on I have yet to hear anything that would justify stabbing him 27 times, slit his throat from ear to ear and then put a bullet in his head. She could have walked away at any time.
06:46 AM on 02/16/2013
Yeah, after being raped, you can just walk away and forget about it, right? What about if you were caught in a bar by a gay rapist who slipped something in your drink and then brought you up to a hotel room and had his way with you? Would you feel you could just walk away and forget it ever happened?

And worse than this happened to Jodi for a much longer time than a single incident or one night.
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07:56 AM on 02/16/2013
Its an impossible task trying to educate people who aren't interested on being educated, isn't it? I cannot believe these people are living in this era, they speak like they are living in the dark ages.

Its a wonder they aren't shouting, ''Off with her head!'' Or ripping her apart with their bare hands, because That just about sums them up; nothing more than animals getting excited about a kill :/
10:08 PM on 02/19/2013
Where is the evidence that she was raped? Neither Jodi Arias or her defense attorney has stated that she was raped. Please send me a link and mark to indicate where in the testimony Jodi said she was raped so I can see what I missed. This is your opportunity to make a believer out of me.
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Heather June Soper
07:47 AM on 02/16/2013
Sorry but you have actually just posted a load of drivel because of your ignorance of abused women; why not learn, then post something that makes sense? ''She could have walked away at any time'' .. No, learn about abused women and how the abuse affects them. And, while you're at it, learn about FEAR; its common knowledge (to those who want to learn about it) that women have stabbed over and over again--FEAR.
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02:40 PM on 02/16/2013
No, I believe it's called- MURDER.
05:51 PM on 02/13/2013
Jodie's male attorney is sooooooooooooo repetitious and boring.. I wonder how many juries are staying awake ? Wonder why her female attorney didn't present her case??
07:47 PM on 02/13/2013
Tomorrow has to be the day she talks about the killing since they are up to May 2008 with her testimony ... I hope
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07:21 PM on 02/16/2013
That's because God moves in mysterious ways ;)

He, Kirk Nurmi, knows what he's doing, believe me, you'll see :) The case isn't over yet, not until the fat lady sings :)
01:41 AM on 03/02/2013
404 god not found
05:01 PM on 02/13/2013
After a time and the occurrence of an odd event called a resurrection, Alexander's spirit is supposed to be reunited with his body so It's puzzling that Arizona would go to all of the expense and trouble of a trial at all. Especially given an inevitable acquittal on the grounds of entertainment value alone.
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07:19 AM on 02/13/2013
ohhhhhh hen, it seems all of America wants her dead.......oh hen......I`m with you
I just wish she knew.....we are not all buying bible thumping travis stuff
12:10 PM on 02/13/2013
So, being a bible thumper means you're abusive although everyone but Arias testified that he never showed his temper...??? His family was huge and he had alot of friends so that definitely tells me that he knows how to treat people. Arias slept around and had only a few friends OR activity partners because I doubt any girls wanted her eyeballing their boyfriends. She has a scary closed lip smile too.
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12:21 PM on 02/13/2013
yes ....being a bible thumper means you`re abusive

now eff off christian
06:07 AM on 02/14/2013
He was a Mormon, not a Christian, so he was not a Bible thumper--he would have been a Book of Mormon thumper