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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
08:51 AM on 02/20/2013
It is quite humorous to see the antiScience-antiGMO people here on hfpost defend a pro-GM0 farmer.

This guy wanted GMO seeds and GMO technology, but cheated to get them.
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slocomgp
Reality has a liberal bias........
09:10 AM on 02/20/2013
Did you read the article .............. ?
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
11:39 AM on 02/20/2013
Did YOU read the article?    This guy is pro GMO. He just thought he had a loophole to buy GMO seeds without an agreement.    Wrong. he was caught.  I am just a wee bit  familiar with GMO since I have farm with soybeans!
Actually this guy did have an agreement with Monsanto for soybeans for his main crop.  This was a second crop of non-licensed beans on harvested wheat stubble.  He thought he could sneak them on with nobody looking.  ooops...wrong
08:31 AM on 02/20/2013
Farmer Bowman should prevail by refusing to plant GMO crops or any seeds produced by Monsanto! It seems it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so (buy non Monsanto seeds), which only emphasizes the importance of taking a stand now! Hell no GMO and hell no Monsanto!
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
08:35 AM on 02/20/2013
lol! Certainly Monsanto has already refused to sell him anything already.
09:57 AM on 02/20/2013
In some industries, it has become impossible to obtain those seeds.
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Kathy Levittown
I love all animals better than most people!
08:29 AM on 02/20/2013
Let me ramble a bit here....

"Back in the day?" 25 years ago? I felt pride in our SCOTUS...

Yesterday I felt revulsion when I saw the pics of the arrogant old men on the court..

Men who-like the republican party-care for nothing that I care about...

Every day its depressing to see how progress is thrown overboard -in favor of the rich..
09:01 AM on 02/20/2013
You would have had a tough time had you lived in earlier generations before all of the government programs came about.

Those generations made America the greatest nation earth without a large all powerful central federal government comprised of people who enrich themselves while exempting themselves from the law, rules and regulations they impose upon the general population.

If we want socialism or communism, maybe we should never have opposed the old Soviet Union in the cold war. Who knows, maybe the whole world would be controlled now by the UN or the USSR.
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09:28 AM on 02/20/2013
What made this country great was a combination of socialist programs begun by FDR to get us out of the Great Depression, strong unions, and entrepreneur spirit. Pure unadulterated capitalism led to the Gilded Age that ended in the Great Depression and to the financial chicanery that led to the Great Recession in 2008.

The greatest generation enjoyed the GI Bill and other government programs that didn't make them weak and dependent but helped them grow into the greatest middle class in the world. If people would just stop with such black and white thinking, we might become great once again.
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Unca Wiggilie
I am but a meager bookworm...
10:10 AM on 02/20/2013
projustice?
Horse manure!
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Unca Wiggilie
I am but a meager bookworm...
10:08 AM on 02/20/2013
Kathy Levittown:
We must NEVER FORGET that it was the partisan
"Supreme" Court who violated the Will of The American People
in the year 2000, and handed the reigns of our government
to the future war criminal GW Bush!
A more heinous act is yet to be recorded . . .
08:25 AM on 02/20/2013
I hate that Monsanto can just bully their way into making all farmers buy their products year after year. Don't we have laws against monopolies in this country? Basically, you have to buy Monsanto seeds year by year, otherwise you'll be blackballed and brought up on charges.
This is like a piece out of Food, Inc.
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08:28 AM on 02/20/2013
Actually, this case is nothing like the ones in Food, Inc. This isn't an instance of cross pollination. This guy bought soybeans at a discount rate on the condition he not plant them. But he did so anyway, eight years in a row.
08:37 AM on 02/20/2013
Big business trying to come in and take over the family-owned farms? Seems VERY remniscent of Food, Inc. to me. I didn't say it was an exact example of what happened, just the principle of it.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
08:39 AM on 02/20/2013
Bowman wanted GMO. He is proGMO but he cheated to get the seeds. I think it is hilarious to watch the antiScience/ antiGMO frankenquacks of huffpost defending a proGMO farmer.
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seaperl
Say Hi to the NSA, they're always listening
08:15 AM on 02/20/2013
Rotten shame that a seed can have a patent and a little farmer can be bullied into submission.
Also a rotten shame that the government again is protecting the big guy.
Just another form of extortion to put the little guy out of business.
It also appears that local governments are trying to prevent average people from planting in their own yards even though there aren't even any laws preventing it.
Watch out people, before you know it slavery will become legal again and then the world is screwed.
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willowtree3
Adopt a shelter animal.
08:10 AM on 02/20/2013
"Monsanto has a policy that prohibits farmers from saving or reusing the seeds once the crop is grown. Farmers must buy new seeds every year."
Something is horribly wrong when this is reality.
How are monsanto patent policies any different than the mafia? The suicide rate is India
is off the charts because of monsanto.
http://www.altenergyshift.com/topic/1550-gmos/page__hl__suicide__st__20

http://www.altenergyshift.com/topic/2241-gmo-suicides/page__hl__suicide
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Wonder Woman2
Whats a micro-bio?
08:35 AM on 02/20/2013
This is kind of like software_ You buy it for a one time use.
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slocomgp
Reality has a liberal bias........
09:15 AM on 02/20/2013
Seeds have been around for how long? Software MAN MADE, seeds not so much.
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Renee Fulghum
Fighting for America's freedom ,one word at a time
11:38 AM on 02/20/2013
look at they have done to mexico.
07:31 AM on 02/20/2013
Actually the farmers have the power to undo this, if they only choose as a group to do so. Simply stop buying Monsanto products. Stop buying RoundUp. Stop buying Monsanto seed. Stop buying any and all Monsanto products. And when their stock prices fall, and they get bought out by somebody else, stop buying their products too.
09:32 AM on 02/20/2013
Unfortunately this goes to one of the underlying flaws in capitalism. We cannot reasonably expect farmers to do something that is strongly against their own personal interests - and have no doubt, using Monsanto seeds results in somewhere around double the profit from natural seed, so they will sacrifice a huge amount of profit to take a principled stand.

The only solution is an external force, either something that slaps down the Monsanto hegemony (unlikely unless we change patent law), the public refusing to buy GMO products (again unlikely because they are much cheaper), or probably the best chance, going after Monsanto on antitrust grounds which is the standard bulwark against pure capitalism.
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09:33 AM on 02/20/2013
The problem is once the seeds are already in the earth it is very hard to stop their propagation. That is the nature of nature. Monsanto has sued farmers that never planted their seeds because their crops still test positive for some of Monsanto GMOs. The courts have to put a stop to Monsanto's egotistical avarice and mafia-style tactics.
07:29 AM on 02/20/2013
This is disgusting. It places no onus on Monsanto to control the natural spread of their GMO soybeans and is another huge giveaway to big agribusiness. It is ridiculous of us to set up our farming practices in a way that goes against what we've done in the for our entire agricultural history. Anyone remember the potato famine? Or the chestnut blight? Monoculture farming, especially one that relies 90 percent on a specific type of seed, is incredibly vulnerable to disease and destruction. What happens when a roundup proof pest comes along and destroys 90 percent of the soybean crop?

Just another example of how our government has sold out to big business.
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sonoflars
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
07:24 AM on 02/20/2013
Makes you want to move to another country.
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willowtree3
Adopt a shelter animal.
08:11 AM on 02/20/2013
"Makes you want to move to another country." monsanto is world-wide, so no help there.
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08:30 AM on 02/20/2013
No, there is no Monsanto-modified seed in Europe.
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PragmaticStatistic
07:21 AM on 02/20/2013
As a former marketing manager for a telecom reseller, I believe Monsanto would have advised the resale industry that any sale of its second generation genetic seeds require packaging labeled "for feed only," or pay a lower royalty to sell it as seed without a product warranty. But, I cannot see that Monsanto can stop the sale of the second generation seeds for planting as long as a royalty is paid buy the reseller. And, the feed labeling would require a legal statement restricting planting seed intended for feed.

If Monsanto was smart, it would have bought up all the second generation seed available from the resellers and resold it itself under a lower quality brand name. Thus everyone benefits. The farmer gets a lower priced variation, the reseller gets to sell out his entire stock with little effort, and Monsanto profits.
08:36 AM on 02/20/2013
I believe Monsanto already does this, "for feed only,".

Monsanto cannot buy up the entire crop of soy beans, these 'seeds' were soybeans intended for " feed, milling and other uses, but not as seed.".

Monsanto problem is, unlike some on the corn they sell, these soy beans can reproduce on their own. Chief Justice John Roberts may be right, don't develop a product which you cannot protect the IP right to it.
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09:35 AM on 02/20/2013
They prefer to sue small farmers who can't afford the court fight in order to intimidate them all.
07:14 AM on 02/20/2013
This is why we need to vote for anyone not gop for president. till we replace at least 1 or more of the consecrative judges.
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08:31 AM on 02/20/2013
This is not going to be a split decision, so it wouldn't matter.
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Karen Gentile
If we amplify everything, we hear nothing.
06:37 AM on 02/20/2013
Another case of food engineering. and now there is nowhere for the farmers to go for seeds because monsanto has a vested interest in all the seeds that have spawned. It is an outrage what the farmers have to deal with this type of hijacking of their industry. Monsanto is one sick corporation, and the supreme court is propping them up... an outrage...
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syrius
Excuse me, EXCUSE ME!
06:36 AM on 02/20/2013
Monsanto owns SCOTUS.
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Chipher
prosaic quotidian
06:35 AM on 02/20/2013
I don't think anyone fully understands what's happened here.

If you sign a contract agreement with Monsanto to grow seed for them on contract, they own the seed, and you are their contract grower.

If you sign an agreement with Monsanto to grow seed for them for the commercial food market, and agree not to save any seed, they own the patent, but not the seed, and you are an independent farmer free to sell the seed to anyone.

But if they dump their seed into general population for food, then claim retroactively a contract they DON'T have, because some of that general seed is patented, they have just used ADULTERATION of the food supply to achieve a MONOPOLY!

It's the same legal trick they used with cross-pollination ADULTERATION to MONOPOLY to claim cross-pollinated seeds fall under their PATENT. No, no they DON'T!!

Now no farmer would dare plant general population seed, for fear of a Monsanto lawsuit. So they will buy Monsanto seed!! You can pay me now, or pay me later!!

If SCOTUS rules in Monsanto's favor, they will have just WON A MONOPOLY.

It would be like Apple making electronic parts for Samsung, or vice versa, then claiming after you bought a Samsung, that you owe royalties to Apple for their parts!! Pretty soon nobody would buy Samsungs.

The only way out of this Monsanto monopoly is if we pile up all their seed and burn it.
07:14 AM on 02/20/2013
Yes, this is exactly what's happening.

The Washington Post did an excellent analysis of this case, and that was their conclusion as well. An additional point they made was that this - assuming the Supreme Court sides with Monsanto - sets up a very, very dangerous precedent: a company can sue you for using their products even though you didn't know it was their product and there was no other alternative.

It's growing extremely difficult for farmers to buy non-modified product, as it's now so mixed in with the food & feed supply, that it's only a matter of years before every farmer has to pay a "licensing fee" to Monsanto simply because it'll be physically impossible to buy seed (or in this case, mixed-up bulk seed) otherwise in the US.

And once that's the case for farmers, you don't think corporations will start to look for ways they can use that precedent for virtually everything thing else?
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
09:29 AM on 02/20/2013
Bowman knew he was buying GMO seeds. He is a proGMO farmer. It's kind of hard to play innocent when you spray your beans with Roundup.
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Renee Fulghum
Fighting for America's freedom ,one word at a time
11:48 AM on 02/20/2013
let me know when you want to started burning i want to help.
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Voidoids
Ça plane pour moi
06:32 AM on 02/20/2013
David=The people that live in this country AKA average American citizens Vs. Goliath=The people that run this country (and no I'm not talking about the Obama administration)...I mean the people that actually run this country...

It's not looking good for David...and hasn't for some time now...

Corporations are king...sorry America you lose...(even if you win)