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spytheweb 04:31 PM on 03/05/2013
"The Postal Service, which lost $1.3 billion in the fourth quarter," They are losing money because congress pasted a law in 2006 that they have to pre fund their retirement benefits which no other government agency has been asked to do. I think congress wanted to privatize mail and this was one way to  Read More...
12:29 PM on 03/06/2013
Relax people. My goodness, you act like it is your money being wasted, ha ha,
11:51 AM on 03/06/2013
It is a good idea to get the whole story before you bash USPS. The "event" is in connection with the National Postal Forum which is an important event for anyone involved in the mailing industry. The NPF is a huge opportunity to learn about those actions the USPS is taking to improve its performance. One can be critical of $8000 expenditure, but if that prompts key decision makers to attend the Forum and work with the Postal Service to improve and/or influence key people to put pressure on an impotent Congress to allow PMG Donahoe to make the common sense changes that any other CEO would be applauded for making then I think the expense may be worth it.

It is easy to sit back and criticize. but if you stop to realize how important the Postal Service is to the vitality of this country you might actually engage in solving the problems. That is precisely what a number of us are doing....join us at PostalVision2020/3.0 in Washington DC on April 23-24 and become part of the solution. See: www.PostalVision2020.com
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12:51 PM on 03/06/2013
They could have sent emails for free, and not wasted over a million dollars sending these things.
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Autora
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01:01 PM on 03/06/2013
While I certainly thank you for working with Postal Vision, I beg to differ that PMG Donahoe is even interested in putting pressure on Congress to repeal PAEA, which is what is draining it of it's own revenue.

The USPS is actually solvent, as I'm sure you know; it is it's requirement to pre-fund retirement benefits (to the tune of $5.5 billion a year) that has it in the red, not inefficiency. Instead of fighting Congress it is selling post office buildings nationwide for short term gain and long term worsening of it's financial problems.

Thanks again, from a member of the Save the Berkeley Post Office committee-- we have a website too. Same name minus the word 'committee', dot com.
01:23 PM on 03/06/2013
Have you spoken to Mr. Donahoe about this..... we have! I don't think your perception is accurate. We realize that the pre-funding issue is at the crux of the financial issue that is why Senator Carper is participating in our conference....we need action in Congress.

USPS still has room for improved operation. The issue about facility reduction centers on mail volume. Yes, jobs will be reduced...makes sense less work to do. But the workforce reduction has been by attrition. There are alternatives to USPS operated Post Office that makes sense.
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Bergen2
11:47 AM on 03/06/2013
Sounds like the USPS needs new management, not privatization.
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01:09 PM on 03/06/2013
It does, starting at the top. PMG Donahoe is selling post offices across the country instead of fighting to get the PAEA repealed; the 2006 act that requires it to pre-fund employee retirement benefits 75 years into the future, to the tune of $5.5 billion a year.

The USPS is the only U.S. agency required to do this, and it is actually in the black apart from that requirement.

Privatization will tear the system apart and costs for mail service will skyrocket; FedEx, UPS, Pitney Bowes et al are for-profit corporations-- the USPS is not. It also has a mandate to serve the American people no matter where they are. Can you imagine FedEx doing anything so unprofitable as delivering mail daily to some isolated rural location? They won't. Not unless those people pay an arm and a leg.
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madcityy
11:37 AM on 03/06/2013
this i why the po sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssss
11:07 AM on 03/06/2013
I'm a retired city letter carrier.
I'll be watching my mail for airline tickets and hotel confirmation (compliments of the USPS) so that I can "shmooze" with the PMG in San Francisco. The people who do the day-to-day job of getting the mail out and delivered (clerks, mail-handlers, city & rural carriers) serve the public, whereas, management, from supervisors to the top, are self-serving.
Cutting Saturday delivery would put thousands out of work and impact the public; cutting "do nothing" management positions would save the Postal Service millions.
I've told more than one postmaster, "If I deliver one piece of mail today, I'll have done more productive work than you'll do all week."
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anniee214
Woodstock Alumni, Class of 1969
11:55 AM on 03/06/2013
F&F! People don't know what a job is about until they've been in the ranks. That's where the job gets done. My husband is a retired police sergeant, From captains up, it was all politics ano no work.
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01:17 PM on 03/06/2013
Good for you, grin. I'm with the Save the Berkeley Post Office committee, and one of our most active members is also a retired letter carrier. Out here we're in the 'comment' phase of the attempt to sell our nearly 100-year-old main post office, and the USPS has put a gag order on all it's employees. They can't talk to the press or their own customers, but of course they are ignoring the latter.

I'm a main source of information for them: I pass on everything that is said and done at City Council meetings, and my letter carrier passes it on in turn.

At the City Council meeting last night, one of the committee members whispered to me: this is union busting, and I nodded emphatically.

What Donahoe should really be doing is fighting Congress to repeal PAEA, but is he? Nope. Just selling off what amounts to public property, regardless of the impact it will have on the public and his own employees.

We all cynically assume he's looking for a cushy job with FedEx or Pitney Bowes once he's finished helping to dismantle the public system.
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loviep
10:49 AM on 03/06/2013
another example of Union controlled company...
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01:20 PM on 03/06/2013
No, it's an example of what happens when you take one agency-- and it's the only one-- and require it to pre-pay retirement benefits 75 years into the future, to the tune of $5.5 billion a year. BILLION.

The USPS is actually in the black-- it's the 2006 PAEA (Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act) that is bringing it down.
10:43 AM on 03/06/2013
okay, left posters...start defending how this isn't a big deal with our tax dollars.
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anniee214
Woodstock Alumni, Class of 1969
11:57 AM on 03/06/2013
Haven't seen you on here in a while. I fanned you because you aren't "only independent! Now you've gone and encouraged them--lol!
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Matthew Newman68
12:12 PM on 03/06/2013
$8000?!!!! The stunt "your people" pulled with the debt ceiling in 2011 cost us 90 billion in our bond rating being downgraded. Which bad idea do you think hurt us more? Republicans are all posture. You don't care a thing about spending.
01:01 PM on 03/06/2013
not sure who 'your people" are, unless you mean those of us who pay a fortune in federal income taxes, only to see it wasted by the, uh, leaders in washington.
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sieiantn
10:30 AM on 03/06/2013
Let's see? The USPS did quite well all those years! And then suddenly, during the Bush years, government saw a chance to raid their coffers...and well, as usual the John Q. Public gets screwed!!
10:46 AM on 03/06/2013
What Bush's fault again??? When will the hate stop?
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sieiantn
11:08 AM on 03/06/2013
I do not hate Bush, nor did I in any way shape or form "blame" Bush! Get over your need to protect him! I said, and quite clearly, that the raid on the USPS coffers took place during the Bush Presidency and that is a fact! You see it as "blame"! The massive unemployment, the crashing of the economy, the TWO expensive unnecessary wars, the enormous national debt ALL took place during the Bush years! Those are facts! Now if you wish to see it as "blame" when these FACTS are mentioned, that is YOUR problem!
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11:09 AM on 03/06/2013
Never, it is part of history.
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anniee214
Woodstock Alumni, Class of 1969
11:58 AM on 03/06/2013
Don't you people ever drop the Bush whine? That's like saying it's ok for me to rob a bank because my parents got divorced. Drop it already! Sheesh.
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Matthew Newman68
12:17 PM on 03/06/2013
The Post Office is in the news because the previous administration (congress actually) strapped a time bomb to its back. And your metaphor shows that, among other things, you don't understand metaphors...
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sieiantn
01:09 PM on 03/06/2013
No "Bush whine" here! Let's see? Who was President when we entered those two wars? Who was President when the economy took a dive? Why what do you know!! It was Bush! Bush was also President when my grandson was born, but I can assure you that I am NOT blaming Bush, nor in any way shape or form giving him credit for that! But it is a FACT that while he was President the government raided the USPS coffers, and while he was President the economy tumbled, and while he was President we became obligated to fund TWO wars that lead to the HUGE debt that we are in now!! And while he was president my grandson was born. Get it? Now where do you see "blame" here?
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lacabrera
10:14 AM on 03/06/2013
We need to gut the post office ,and start all over again with new management and new people ,like other corporations do !
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JoltBillRandal
Semi-retired broadcast tech.
10:32 AM on 03/06/2013
Your suggestion, indeed, needs to be carried out. Same thing needs to be done in D.C. The CONgress, the presidency, the alphabet soup that comprises most of the 'government' all operate to their own advantage, and if the People are served as well, '...well, OK... We'll ttry not to do that again'.
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Matthew Newman68
12:27 PM on 03/06/2013
I am truly amazed at the stupidity of some people on this post. Yea lets gut a service which appears in the constitution, and employs more of the disabled, our war veterans, and minorities then any other employer in the country, because congress under 'W' decided it would be an interesting excise to put the burden of funding 70 years worth of retirement for all of its employees, those living and not yet born, in a 10 year window. Name one company that does that, or could remain solvent in those circumstances.
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lacabrera
01:04 PM on 03/06/2013
Well that was done because 99% of the postal workers are not Vested therefor they can't collect SS ,HOW STUPID IS THAT ?
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Mike Tsarnas
10:09 AM on 03/06/2013
Another example of govenment waste fraud and abuse!! The crooked government wants to handle health care too!! That's rich . . . We are absolutely screwed with the way this country is headed. The leadership is a poor example and will not give up their goodies, so why change anything??
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Matthew Newman68
12:31 PM on 03/06/2013
The government, I'm assuming you are referring to Medicare, operates on a 3% administrative budget - the average private insurance company; anywhere from 25-30%. But keep on believing that healthcare (doctors) and health insurance (banking) are the same, that a for-profit model is actually better for the end consumer, and that your insurance company looks at you as person.
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01:36 PM on 03/06/2013
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? I suppose you think the USPS is run with taxpayer money. It isn't, friend.
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davesocal818
10:08 AM on 03/06/2013
According to ESPN, the USPS is believed to have invested at least $30 million to sponsor Lance Armstrong and his teammates between 2001 and 2004.!!! In the meantime we, the public, are getting ripped-off with an increase of postal rates and no Saturday delivery!!!! It makes one wonder the intelligence it takes to run the USPS....there ought to be a law.
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JoltBillRandal
Semi-retired broadcast tech.
10:35 AM on 03/06/2013
There probably IS. (A 'Law') But you won't see it, and if you do, and call them on it, there will also be an excuse for them to not fall unser it. Your government at work. Intelligence here is an oxymoron.
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Matthew Newman68
12:34 PM on 03/06/2013
Ripped off?! When is the last time you've bought something on line, and had it delivered? Funny - I normally see the private companies (FedEx, UPS, etc...) as the more expensive options. So you're okay with being ripped off by the private market, it's only when your government asks for money that you are being screwed. Is that about right?
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angelshalo321
10:06 AM on 03/06/2013
Those who complaint about postal employees being over paid ?? can't do a mail route for one week. Being a mail man in the winter is brutal. Delivering mail in 90--100 degree heat in a tin box truck with no air ? Many would pass out with the heat, you have to be fit to carry mail. Not an easy job.
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Yolinda Beach
Relax, today is a good day, it only gets worse fro
10:35 AM on 03/06/2013
Your point is what? A job is a job. Everybody, well alot of people have to work. Alot don't and live off the government.
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Matthew Newman68
12:36 PM on 03/06/2013
Qualify your statement with data please. How many people are not working and "living off the government?" And no, a job is not a job.
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JoltBillRandal
Semi-retired broadcast tech.
10:46 AM on 03/06/2013
Nobody here said it was easy. I know that it is not. But can you tell me why, with all the reason you can muster, WE need to subsidise the 'Bulk Mail' industry? I takes as much effort to handle envelopes addressed to 'Ocupant' as it does a First Class letter. But the one for 'Ocupant' gets mailed for 12 cents or so, while the First Class letter is 43 cents(?) and going up! To say nothing of the newspaper-size advertising 'circualers' that can weigh nearly half a pound.

BTW... Try the same 'tin box truck with no air' HERE. In Arizona. When the temp. runs 99 - 125 in summer. I could not have survived that 30 years ago.
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Matthew Newman68
12:41 PM on 03/06/2013
Check Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution. And we wouldn't need to "subsidize" the Post Office if we just let them provide the service without placing an unnecessary burden on their retirement accounts.
09:59 AM on 03/06/2013
Are there any doubts why all this work should be taken over by private companies? Waste like this would never happen if say Jack Welch (back in his day) was running this operation. Any competent CEO would fire 3/4's of these people who came up with these brain dead and wasteful spending ideas. Come on government, just because you get elected by us doesn't allow you a green light to be stupid.
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Yolinda Beach
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10:36 AM on 03/06/2013
The problem is that we elect stupid people for the jobs. Current case of electing a community organizer as prez... He's in way over his head and failing terribly.
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Matthew Newman68
12:42 PM on 03/06/2013
LOL!!!! Silly foolish man. If you are interested in paying more to get less, please proceed.
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angelshalo321
09:58 AM on 03/06/2013
Postal service could ask retiree's to volunteer a few hours a day to help the P.O. , why they haven't ?? beyond me...I retired 2 years ago and if ask to volunteer 4 hours a day ? i would.. I'm in great shape i go to the gym 5 times a week and i can still walk--and drive.. I could help delivering express--parcels---and deliver the mail for nothing.
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Matthew Newman68
12:44 PM on 03/06/2013
That's nice, but that is not your obligation. Nor can an institution operate on good will. The postal system was fine until the 70 year retirement burden was placed on it under the Bush administration.
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01:51 PM on 03/06/2013
I agree. It was very kind of angelshalo, but it's PAEA we need to repeal. It's 75 years, just by way, not 70.
09:51 AM on 03/06/2013
So, yes, I actually agree with HP in criticizing the Postal Service's judgment. Now, multiply this by a jillion to the get the waste at the Federal government level. Don't tell me they can't. Find a way and start cutting. At the Postal Service AND the Federal Government. Instead of your President signing on and leading the charge against spending, he's trying to orchestrate a failure so he can keep spending and blame Republicans (and not necessarily in that order).
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JoltBillRandal
Semi-retired broadcast tech.
10:56 AM on 03/06/2013
RE: 'Cuts'. Sure they could make them, but the ones made within government would not be painful to We, The People. They have to make US hurt so they can sit back and say, 'SEE? You asked for cuts, and here they are. Don't like the results? Sorry. Vote for ME next time, and I'll fix it! With a bigger deficit. That won't hurt as much. Just more debt for your great grandchildren. You won't be here to see it.'
11:59 AM on 03/06/2013
Well, that's Obama's agenda.  He had two options.  Start cutting (meaningfully) and calling for more while accepting the GOP's offer to not have across the board and get the number any which we he wanted to (still with a split between domestic and defense).  Or be a complete loser by now trying to make it so the sequester actually hurts so he can blame the GOP and say, "see?  I told you so".  This guy is no leader.  He failed right out of the gate in 2009 and he continues on an even worse trajectory for the final four.
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Matthew Newman68
12:47 PM on 03/06/2013
The Republicans are to blame, whats your point? You do realize government has seen its slowest growth in 60 years?
01:15 PM on 03/06/2013
Taxing and spending has NEVER been a winning combination.  That's all on Dems.