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VietVet2MARINESONS
Scars, are lessons, well learned
02:18 AM on 03/15/2013
"Most of the panelists saw the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as efforts that went awry, and not necessarily the results of poor decision-making."

awry - "away from the correct or expected course;

It was "poor decision-making", that sent things "awry".

RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!

"Winging it", was the decision making process of the day.

And, if it couldn't be "winged", just lie.
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Nick Vanocur
Author of "From the Desk of NickiLeaks"
02:09 AM on 03/15/2013
"And Can We Afford It?"

In dollars or in lives?

CPAC doesn't answer that question.

But we know.
06:52 AM on 03/15/2013
Yes, but think of all the military contractors who will make millions upon millions from it. And in return contribute to Republican re-elections, and hire them as lobbyist with gross salaries, as 'legal' kickbacks, after they retire.
02:00 AM on 03/15/2013
Obo got away with Beng hazi and much more the whole Middle E ast is in H@!!
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Nick Vanocur
Author of "From the Desk of NickiLeaks"
02:12 AM on 03/15/2013
Obo is spelled with an e and is a musical instrument, not some kind of hazy bhong.
02:43 AM on 03/15/2013
I know its a instrument and he plays you like a violin.  Maybe I should just call HIM  zero.
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Ralphee
04:25 AM on 03/15/2013
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Julie99
01:51 AM on 03/15/2013
Sounds like they were serving some epicac syrup for lunch. Spewing their guts.
01:30 AM on 03/15/2013
DR. Paul the libs are so afraid of you for 2016, they know a lot will vote for you, keep up the good work defending Americans Rights.
02:01 AM on 03/15/2013
Sarcasm??
02:09 AM on 03/15/2013
Not at all.
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Nick Vanocur
Author of "From the Desk of NickiLeaks"
02:12 AM on 03/15/2013
Medication.
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freshie
industrial designer changing the world
04:02 AM on 03/15/2013
Man! You guys have been predicting the end of Dems for awhile now. From what i hear coming out of CPAC, you guys are clueless. Stay that way. We don't need another horror show like the Bush years. His legacy will define the GOP for another 10 years.
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McKibbinUSA
I side with the supermajority...
01:14 AM on 03/15/2013
I hate war -- the US should not be permitted to fight wars overseas without a Declaration of War from Congress -- yes, wars in the US homeland can be fought without a Declaration in order to defend the homeland -- but overseas wars should not be permitted without a Declaration of War --- I will never change my mind on this point -- the fact that an American President can order forces to engage combatants overseas is a major flaw in US governance that cannot be forgiven -- never...
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phoflex
Give me honesty, no truth
01:12 AM on 03/15/2013
CPAC: the biggest black hole this side of our universe. It drags all of us into it.
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
01:08 AM on 03/15/2013
Wow! What a "he-man" Paul is in his jeans and cowboy boots! HAW! HAW! Forgot his hat to cover his head so that whatever little brains he has don't evaporate.

I seem to remember how, when he was campaigning for the presidency, Robmey said that he was prepared to keep troops "indefinitely" in Iraq and Afghanistan, had no qualms about "boots on the ground" in Iran and called Russia the greatest threat to our national security. So much for rethinking their hawkish, expensive and failed foreign policies. I don't see that things would be different with this bag of mixed nuts in CPAC.

Heard it's gonna take another $2T or $3T to pay for the lifetime healthcare of all of our severely wounded soldiers...that is, the ones who don't commit suicide...thus adding to the debt that they can blame Democrats for.

The minute another neocon administration has a majority in Congress, all talk about the deficit and debt will end and they'll grab the Federal credit card and max it out on a couple of more wars...with the full approval of their voting base. After all, there will be another Democrat to blame it all on in the future. HAW! HAW!
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01:00 AM on 03/15/2013
4,409 U.S lost and 31,928 wounded in action. Over 100,000 Iraqi killed. (Some reports claim 600,000) $2 TRILLION unfunded for what?

War was started based on highly questionable information and allegations.

The conflict was then thrown "over the wall" for the next administration to bring to an end in an attempt to blame the whole thing on someone else.

This is the current Republican "leadership" in action.
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Duane Hansa
03:06 AM on 03/15/2013
You are always the man. It seems President Obama never gets any credit for what he does well.
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02:10 PM on 03/15/2013
Not from the current GOP or low information citizens.
03:39 AM on 03/15/2013
Er...it was his highness Barack Obama that proclaimed Afghanistan to be the "only just" war...or did you conveniently forget that?
07:05 AM on 03/15/2013
I thought Afghanistan was where the Al-Qeada were. Or do you think that whole World Trade Center incident wasn't a just reason for war?
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02:09 PM on 03/15/2013
The topic is Iraq.

Can you refute ANY of the facts cited?
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Czechster
Enough is enough
12:44 AM on 03/15/2013
FYI - Military–industrial complex, or military–industrial–congressional complex, (MIC) is a concept commonly used to refer to policy and monetary relationships between legislators, national armed forces, and the military industrial base that supports them. These relationships include political contributions, political approval for military spending, lobbying to support bureaucracies, and oversight of the industry. It is a type of iron triangle. The term is most often used in reference to the system behind the military of the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower on January 17, 1961, though the term is applicable to any country with a similarly developed infrastructure.
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macgruff
02:42 AM on 03/15/2013
and was really brought into popular political thought in the 60s with the Students for Democratic Society, who were pilloried as commie pinkos, or naive socialist, but certainly anti-American. Yet they were right, and all that was said by them back them has proven true. The corporations with military contracts, connections as you point out, are the oligarchy that we feared. They have successfully brainwashed a third of the nation, and that third will pick up, (has picked up), the tired and haggard rhetoric of the Republican refrain. They will be wrong again, and then either try to rewrite history, and/or deny the obvious mistakes they have made.
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Czechster
Enough is enough
12:40 PM on 03/15/2013
Be honest I never was aware of them. They were according to Wikipedia morphed into what is known as the Underground Weatherman. This was a take off of Bob Dylan’s song "You don't have to be a Weatherman to know where the wind is blowing".
It appears that the CIA got involved and accused them of being a threat to democracy, an oxymoron if there ever was one busted them up.
A new faction has started but given our new CIA director I would be willing to bet their days are numbered.
Thanks for the education. F&F
07:09 AM on 03/15/2013
Thank you for the education, Czechster. Good to know the disfunction has a name.
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Czechster
Enough is enough
12:27 PM on 03/15/2013
Your welcome.  As for an education I am finding that I have only scratched the tip of the iceberg.  So much more to learn.
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gonealreb
Our Constitution is just fine, thanks anyway.
12:40 AM on 03/15/2013
Gotta love it "Wars are won or lost" says Tom Cotton (R) Ark in defense of the spread of U.S. involvement in wars from Africa to China's border.

Maybe he might want to check with the roughly 28,000 US Troops still involved with the DMZ between North and South Korea - 60 years now since the War supposedly ended.
02:03 AM on 03/15/2013
Actually, it was an armistice that put a stop to the war. By proxy, the war is still officially on but a truce is in place.
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Nick Vanocur
Author of "From the Desk of NickiLeaks"
02:14 AM on 03/15/2013
Lee only surrendered the Armies of the Confederacy and for some reason, that war is on-going as well.
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gonealreb
Our Constitution is just fine, thanks anyway.
03:00 PM on 03/15/2013
A truce was in place until last week when the new fearless leader in North Korea tore it up publicly.
12:39 AM on 03/15/2013
Iraq would seem the correct place to send all conservatives (R)epublicans who supported the world's biggest lie. They should all be living their daily lives in the mess they created !!! They could even change the name to "Denial" !!!!
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marinemomof3
4/30/86 to 3/30/14 I love you son!
12:56 AM on 03/15/2013
Haven't the Iraqi people suffered enough? I think they, (r's) would like the weather and size of gubmint in Somalia better :)
01:16 AM on 03/15/2013
On second thought...you're right....they didn't ask for anything and look what we gave them...ok...send all the (R)idiculous to Texas !
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HitnMyths
Too large a life for a micro bio
12:36 AM on 03/15/2013
I could not tell from the story. Was Mr Norquist criticizing or praising the rat heads? Sure,there's a momentary revulsion to rat heads in a Coke bottle but perhaps they show the anti-regulatory zeal of the Norquistians? These might be role models for the New Republicans - keeping an eye out for tort reform? I would like to think Mr Norquist finds rat heads sliding to the bottom of the bottle as he sets it down a bad thing, but I'm sure he finds those soda inspections an onerous burden on the soda boys - I'm sure the market will work out that whole rathead/ no rathead issue.
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RetiredUSAF05
A lover of snippy comments
12:27 AM on 03/15/2013
Sorry, could not get past the part about Rep. Louie Ghomert being a war hero for FOUR LONG YEARS in a Ft. Benning court room without breaking into laughter! Even though those years were considered peace time. GHOMERT is a war monger CHICKEN HAWK!
12:27 AM on 03/15/2013
This CPAC Conference is Day 1.

Day 1 of America coming back to the conservative principles that made her great.
proudcalib
I never said it was going to be easy
12:28 AM on 03/15/2013
America is a she? Is she anatomically correct?
12:29 AM on 03/15/2013
Day 1.
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JoeBlough
The Horror. . .The Horror. . .
01:41 AM on 03/15/2013
Florida has something to say about that.
12:35 AM on 03/15/2013
Were they discussing slavery?
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Nick Vanocur
Author of "From the Desk of NickiLeaks"
02:15 AM on 03/15/2013
Economic, yes.