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ThatsTheTheWayItIs 08:39 PM on 03/28/2013
The min Obama Care family policy costs $15K, employers average cost is $10K. Max penalty is $2200, much less for low-incomes.

It's a no-brainer, EVERYONE will violate the mandate. Wait until people start doing their 2014 taxes, realize they are being penalized for not buying a corporate product they do not want or need.
That's because Obama Care is not insurance. It requires a policy that  Read More...
11:43 AM on 03/29/2013
The Affordable Care Act of 2010, signed by President Obama on March 23, 2010, creates a national Medicaid minimum eligibility level of 133% of the federal poverty level ($29,700 for a family of four in 2011) for nearly all Americans under age 65.
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I don't think those companies are really talking about their hourly wage workers, they are talking about themselve in upper management.
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Just logic
11:41 AM on 03/29/2013
If anything the premise that people will think it is worth buying health coverage is ridiculous. Sure health is important but right now most folks working at wendys are young and easily could get even individual coverage at a fraction of what current group plans charge. So why havent they? Well thats is most likely because they cant afford even $100 a month extra expense especially when you only make around $200 a week take home. Its not about being worth it, it is simply a math problem. Remember that this is current price ranges but after Obamacare fully takes effect in 2014 prices are projected to have a weighted increase.
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Daryl Pienta
We need a balance of Socialsim and Capitalism
12:16 PM on 03/29/2013
http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CHIP-Program-Information/By-Topics/Eligibility/Eligibility.html

""""The Affordable Care Act of 2010, signed by President Obama on March 23, 2010, creates a national Medicaid minimum eligibility level of 133% of the federal poverty level ($29,700 for a family of four in 2011) for nearly all Americans under age 65. """""

Don't think Fast food workers make $29K so they have nothing to worry about
12:36 PM on 03/29/2013
But the level for a SINGLE person is133% of $11,490 or $15,282 in 2013. That's right around what a full time minimum wage worker makes.

If I made $15k a year, I'd be worried.
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Enid
01:10 PM on 03/29/2013
for a family of four 30K is very doable.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:41 AM on 03/29/2013
Ha ha, baggers. Obamacare is here to stay. But no worries, it even covers your case of black-man-in-white-house-DerangementSyndrome.
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El Chingaso
Reality-based infusion.
12:15 PM on 03/29/2013
Hey, Brunette, most baggers have enough money to cover BO Care policies and the 20-plus new tax hikes. You, on the other hand, (LMAO, sorry) are probably on the opposite end of the spectrum. Good luck, baby...
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Troutguy
A bad day fishing is better than a good day workin
12:34 PM on 03/29/2013
Is that why baggers run around with signs that say "get your govt. hands off my Medicare"?
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whynotanswertous
caveat emptor of what you fell for
12:34 PM on 03/29/2013
You have her pegged.lol
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jflorish
12:45 PM on 03/29/2013
The funny thing that it is not here to stay. Once everyone see's all their take home pay going to obamacare, and make no mistake its increasing in 2014 ... everyone will demand this be removed. Its already happening and the big increases wont really occur until 2014/2015.
11:36 AM on 03/29/2013
Bull Puckie, unless these companies are paying a wage = to $15.00 an hour, most employees will be placed on the States medicaid rolls.
12:04 PM on 03/29/2013
Nope; they will pay the very small penalty until something happens to them, then they will run to a Doctor and receive all necessary care under the pre existing condition proviso.
12:10 PM on 03/29/2013
Not true.
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Daryl Pienta
We need a balance of Socialsim and Capitalism
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Bocababs
11:28 AM on 03/29/2013
My mother spent seven days in the Hospital in Philadelphia after she had me, for the price of a three-night stay at a Four Star Hilton on the Beach. Healthcare is absolutely out of control on the costs, and if we cannot reign it in, more and more of us; like my own family in Fort Myers, with 2 kids, and they are BOTH working....still cannot afford the premiums. If the ACA does anything else, and may I say with a lot of tweaking, I just hope it begins to lower the cost of getting sick.
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Birdman 49
Fighting for what is right!
10:56 AM on 03/29/2013
OK wait a min..... With the Obamacare law. I know I read that businesses will be able to buy into large insurance plans, such as McDonald's, Wendy's, etc, making insurance less costly... So what I am seeing is companies finding ways around paying the insurance. Offer at a higher price so the emplyees won't sign on, then going part time or paying the $95 fine, keeping the company from paying big fines for not offering..... Wow what a dirty trick they are playing just to keep from offering their emplyees insurance.

The more people who join in a group will drop the cost to everyone. This is really sad.
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Feeling sorry for Democrats and Republicans alike
11:10 AM on 03/29/2013
The first people to join an insurance plan are those with existing conditions. This will dramatically raise insurance costs. These higher costs will change the equation for healthy people. No matter how many join, the costs will not return to levels previously experienced.
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Daryl Pienta
We need a balance of Socialsim and Capitalism
12:32 PM on 03/29/2013
the rules also has made it so insurance companies MUST use 80% of their revenues on health related payments. That leaves 20% for admin costs and profits. Not much wiggle room for insurance companies ot abuse.

Also many of these low wage jobs will make them eligible for Medicaid and no costs

Our healthcare costs are the most expensive in the world. There is plenty of room for government interaction, why won't the republicans help ? Why are they hell bent on not helping those who cannot afford health insurance, why won't they help increase the wages and benefits of American workers, why do they attack union labor ???
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lhoffman5
73 yr old,Eisenhower Rep. Retired history Teacher
12:36 PM on 03/29/2013
Just think, IF many of those people could have afforded health care at an earlier age, how many of them might NOT have serious pre-existing conditions?
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Just logic
11:45 AM on 03/29/2013
You only think that the costs will be lower on the exchanges. Large insurance plans that cover the requirements are still costly. Companies are only fined if they do not offer plans but that doesnt mean any of the plans available will be affordable for the workers. Think about it. How cheap do you think health plans could possibly get? What Wendy's is saying is right now plans are considered to expensive by their workers and these are current plans. The price is projected to jump and workers are expected to just pay a fine or go part time to avoid penalties. This has nothing to do with Wendy's itself.
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Daryl Pienta
We need a balance of Socialsim and Capitalism
12:33 PM on 03/29/2013
Wendy's workers will be eligible for medicaid because they make way less then $30K

so their argument is moot
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Birdman 49
Fighting for what is right!
01:06 PM on 03/29/2013
ok if you say so
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Bluefin105
Jefferson was correct
10:30 AM on 03/29/2013
Fact is now I pay 80% of my employee's health care costs. My choice. Costs have risen already on the 20% premium that the employee pays and two have dropped out. If Obamacare premiums ride any farther and even one employee leaves the plan I will be broaching my 80% participation, my plan will be cancelled and I will have to enroll in a more costly plan with less coverage. NOW WHAT WASHINGTON GENIUSES? I have no solution and I do care about me worker's. This boondoggle has caused nothing but headaches for my company and my employees
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Lambpie
Opinions are not facts.
10:55 AM on 03/29/2013
"Now what" needs to be they tackle "cost of healthcare." Neither party will touch it. Political minefield. Meanwhile we're all struggling trying to figure it out.
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Bluefin105
Jefferson was correct
11:22 AM on 03/29/2013
Unlike many of my fiscally conservative friends, I do not believe that this genie can be put back in the bottle. Like it or not, we have to deal with the thing sarcastically labeled Obamacare. I absolutely agree that some restructuring of our health care system needs to be done. Every entity involved in a person getting healthcare from the patent or subscriber to health care professionals, to insurance companies, to trial lawyers who litigate need to be involved and held accountable for actions. This Obamacare system is a "top down" approach, which results in draconian regulations that require attorneys to tell the rest of us what the regulations mean (their interpretations) which will inevitably be challenged by other attorneys with their own interpretations, and meanwhile the employers and workers take it on the chin
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:43 AM on 03/29/2013
Get back to work for single-payer. Like any sensible business person with a clue would do.
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Bluefin105
Jefferson was correct
12:40 PM on 03/29/2013
You have any idea what that will cost me? I looked into having all employees go as subs to cut my costs but not sue I can do that in my business. Then looked at all part timers but I have several key people that I would loose.
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dorothy bnks
10:28 AM on 03/29/2013
Happy employees are productive employees. Their attitude is our boss looks out for us, and we look out for him or her. Its a employer/employee partnership. Fast food chains traditionally have constant turnovers, because the is no career ladder to climb. Management is as high as an employee can aspire to. There are no high salaried chefs in fast food.

When employers of fast food chains exhibit a lack of respect and concern for their employees, sometimes employees pass that lack of respect on to customers by spitting in the food, or something more sinister. An example is customers finding all kinds of unsavory "treats" in their orders. Employees that are treated with respect, paid a decent wage with benefits would not stand by and let another employee jeopardize their employment.

Popeyes, Wendy's, Godfather Pizza, Church's Chicken, Pizza Hut--to name a few--would not go out of business tomorrow if they provided health care insurance for their employees. It is unfair to customers who are unknowingly served food prepared by a sick employee; especially so when we have no idea what the illness is.
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chanahan
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
10:27 AM on 03/29/2013
First, we now know that any projections of cost for Obamacare in the past have been very low and it impact on health care costs is to push it higher. Second, why would any retail or fast food outlet with exployees working over 30 hours per week willingly sign up for more cost rather than take the guy working 36 hrs per week and knock him back down to 30? I think what we might be seeing is a person working 20-30 hrs per week at two different businesses.
10:12 AM on 03/29/2013
Insurance/Pharma to Factory Farmed Fast Food restaurants are costing US and the rest of the world...but let's blame it on Obamacare, the first forward step in decades that we could get passed, considering the power of the industry lobbyists...now on to Demanding Choice of Private For Profit or Improved Single Payer for ALL!
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:44 AM on 03/29/2013
Precisely.
12:07 PM on 03/29/2013
Why did Obama make so many deals with big pharma in obamacare. It was a hustle and will not serve it intended purpose.
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whynotanswertous
caveat emptor of what you fell for
12:44 PM on 03/29/2013
The deals Obama made with the drug companies were for kickbacks.
01:00 PM on 03/29/2013
Why didn't more people turn off faux hacked news and tune into the bill process on thomas.loc.gov instead...and push their reps for the political will to get insuranse/pharma lobbyists out of the way and for choice of for profit or Single Payer? One of the early versions for healthcare reform posted on thomas even included transitional training for employees in the industry as folks were afraid of losing jobs. Here's a good one on where we are now: 'Twisted Logic on Capitol Hill Where 'Congressional Hearing' Often Isn't' http://huff.to/163CH8N via @HuffPostPol
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PATina
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
10:11 AM on 03/29/2013
This article also makes me wonder how/if wait staff will afford insurance. Will they have to turn in their tips to the company to pay the premiums since their base wage is less than minimum wage?
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chanahan
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
10:30 AM on 03/29/2013
The base wage of tip based workers is not below minimum, there is a diferent minimum wage for jobs that get tips. Your wider point is correct however. If a person is working more than 30 hrs per week and is eligible for an employee sponsored health care plan, they would have to pay their portion of the premium if they decided to join and if income from thier wages is not enough to cover it, they would have to pay the rest.
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Sheepdog2566
04:58 PM on 03/29/2013
My gf was a waitress for years... Many times she had to pay for taxes she owned because her serving wages were not enough to pay taxes... She was taxed for 10% of all the food she sold as a waitress...
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J0E1
Don't blame me, I'm not a republicrat.
09:58 AM on 03/29/2013
Uh oh. There are about 50 million severely conflicted people in this country today.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
09:57 AM on 03/29/2013
Fast Food industry externalizes the labor costs and the negative impact of unhealthy products.

A special tax on fast foods could be enacted to offset some of the societal cost.
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Bluefin105
Jefferson was correct
10:13 AM on 03/29/2013
Oh by all means, then we should enact an additional tax on meat, starch, gluten products, peanuts, shellfish, salt, and any other product harmful to some portion of society. Yea that will work real well!
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
10:19 AM on 03/29/2013
Just end the subsidies for corn, soy, wheat, dairy, meat.  Take that money and use it to subsidize local fruits and vegetables. That would be a terrific start.
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whynotanswertous
caveat emptor of what you fell for
12:48 PM on 03/29/2013
The democrat answer to everything is more tax.
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chanahan
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
10:32 AM on 03/29/2013
You are going down a slippery slope with that type of argument. It could be made for many products and activities. Someone walking in a shopping mall without a helmet on could end up hitting their head and increasing the cost of products in the mall and health insurance so we should make everyone shopping in a mall wear a helmet or pay a special tax for not wearing one. We don't want that mall cost to be externalized.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
10:35 AM on 03/29/2013
Your Reductio Ad Absurdum fallacy Fails.
Care to try again without resorting to rhetorical fallacy?
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PATina
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
09:54 AM on 03/29/2013
While I agree that some workers (particularly those w/ children) may choose the coverage even if it's more expensive... there are many others who will make the choice not to have insurance because they won't be able to afford it and rent/light/gas etc. We are talking about people who are making minimum wage (or slightly more)... since I'm sure the corporate Popeye/Wendy employee already has health coverage. Many of them are just not going to be able to afford insurance.
iceice
World Traveler
10:35 AM on 03/29/2013
Not having health insurance s fine as long as the employee is young, not married, with no children.
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PATina
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
10:52 AM on 03/29/2013
Not having health INSURANCE is fine period. Insurance is not germane to health CARE.
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Simon Fraser
Is this just math you do as a republican?"
09:49 AM on 03/29/2013
I've never understood why there's a penalty for not being insured, the idea of companies not denying people seems a great provision, but forcing people to buy something is silly.
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Soilguy
To serve man.
09:55 AM on 03/29/2013
Not buying health insurance is irresponsible.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
09:58 AM on 03/29/2013
Not insuring employees is irresponsible ( or paying them enough to afford it)
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PATina
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
10:08 AM on 03/29/2013
Not if buying it means you can't pay your utility bills or buy food.
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dorothy bnks
10:33 AM on 03/29/2013
If you are a taxpayer you pay for medical services provided for the uninsured in emergency rooms and free clinics throughout the U.S. It is cheaper for everyone to have some kind of health care insurance.