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mamalisa38
I love you Thomas and I miss you like crazy RIP
12:14 PM on 09/24/2009
In 2004, George W. Bush and the Republican's gave $950 million to Iraq for universal health care.

Good enough for Iraqi's but not good enough for their fellow American's.
12:17 PM on 09/24/2009
And, my understanding is that right before Bush left office he gave additional $500 million to Iraq for health care too.
12:18 PM on 09/24/2009
we need a real solution - thats all they expect in the 3rd world
Grunty1
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12:29 PM on 09/24/2009
SizeMatters thinks that Americans don't even deserve a "third world" solution.
04:24 PM on 09/24/2009
Then you agree that we need a solution befitting of a modern western democracy. Good.

Single payer it is. Glad you're on our side.
12:13 PM on 09/24/2009
If 52% of Americans are against the proposed Health Care reforms, it's because they were lied to, received false information and distortions about the plans, were subjected to fear mongering and this is what many people are opposed to. 52% of people are against:
"DEATH PANELS"
"rationing and long waiting lines"
"Government shutting down for-profit Health Insurance companies"
"higher taxes for the middle class"
"trillion dollar deficits"
"medicare cuts that reduce care"
"euthanasia"
"socialism, facism, communism"
These are just some of the lies that the opposition fed the willingly ignorant and deceived who are now against the proposed Health Care plans. I'd be against this too.
The 52% does not really reflect the percentage of Americans that can't support the proposed Health Care reform, rather it reflects the effectiveness of the lies and the distortion campaign.
There is a big difference. No one with any integrity should be proud of using the 52% number to suggest that the proposed Health Care plans have been rejected by fair minded Americans.
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12:11 PM on 09/24/2009
Political theatre for the masses. They probably went back to the cloak room later on and kissed and hugged and helped each other "finish his point."
Grunty1
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12:13 PM on 09/24/2009
Probably so.
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OleLadySquawking
'Trickled' on since 1987!
12:04 PM on 09/24/2009
This is the beginings of the death rattle for the GOP. The scratching and clawing will only get worse as they dig their grave deeper in the next few weeks. Tick tock, tick tock...
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temogen
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12:50 PM on 09/24/2009
vote them out they deserve it
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Squeglen
Obama won, get over it Republican's & Teabagger's
12:03 PM on 09/24/2009
The GOP are so desperate to stop the bill that they will do and say anything. Why do they hate American's so bad that they want to deny everyone health care? What if they don't pass health care and all their constituents die from the H1N1 virus, then who would vote them into office? They do not take into consideration that there are a lot of people laid off and cannot afford the vaccine, which would be covered under the new health care plan. Stop the bull and get to work and think of American's and not what the insurance companies are putting into your pockets.
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rkfdred
12:02 PM on 09/24/2009
What amazes me is how the republicans pick and choose when it comes to government involvement. They don't want any involvement when it comes to helping the average American but they think nothing about wanting to intercede when it comes to how people live their lives. No to health insurance reform and financial regulation but yes to anti-abortion and gay marriage. You can't have it both ways.

They don't care if the entire middle class is falling into a chasm but they do care if you don't live by their religious beliefs. What a bunch of hypocrits. I find my blood pressure rising every time one of them speaks.
12:17 PM on 09/24/2009
totally agree with your point. I would just add one more thing. Why is it that so many Americans can't see that the Republican Party is doing everything to protect the large corporations. I have a friend who is having tremendous health problems along with financial problems and no one can convince this person that reforming the healthcare system will help her. I think these people have such hate for the democratic party that they will disregard their own interest to oppose anything good for the country. We need not look any further that Social Security & Medicare. There were oposition then, because the Right knew it would work. Listen, if they did not think that reforming the healthcare system will work, we would not have such opposition. They are afraid of the consequences to their party when middle class Americans are benefiting from these changes.
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Nardwilly
12:27 PM on 09/24/2009
My wife has a coworker facing similar with his mothers health. She was diagnosed with cancer in South Carolina while visiting her son. Her insurance is only good in Florida. To get it covered she has to go to Florida. See the doctors that misssed the diagnosis. Get it confirmed by them and received services form them.

The coworker is against reform because he does not want a gov't takeover. He knows the insurance comapny is scamming him and his mother. He is scared someone undeserving will get a benefit.

How could a person be undeserving of health care?
12:19 PM on 09/24/2009
Well said. Add to it the fact, that they don't even live what they preach. Religion, Constitution, Founding Fathers, Family Values, Culture, Freedom, Liberty etc., are all tools for them to get elected and stay in power.
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errol44
Just in town for the GOP circus
11:58 AM on 09/24/2009
Well, I am slightly encouraged by Baucus' response, but also slightly surprised that he didn't side with Kyl on the issue, considering the way Baucus has bent over backward to give us a bill that is essentially worthless in reigning in the out-of-control health insurance industry.
12:08 PM on 09/24/2009
He must have received pressure and threats of being voted out next time by his constituents. Obama might have threatened him behind the scenes.
CommonSensePlease
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11:58 AM on 09/24/2009
Sen. Kyl and all the other Republicans should have the government-run healthcare insurance that they currently enjoy cancelled. They are against the public option but themselves they benefit from the government-run healthcare insurance available to all senators.

Hypocrites! "It is good for me but not for the American people" HYPOCRITES! CORRUPTED REPUBLICANS!

It is Common Sense!
12:15 PM on 09/24/2009
ummm - there is a republican sponsored resolution that says all federal politicians will sign onto whatever is passed, but the dems don't support it
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Nardwilly
12:28 PM on 09/24/2009
Why should they. Its a gimmick to make you think it matters. It does not.
04:17 PM on 09/24/2009
You don't want to be forced into the public option, but you think that it's acceptable to force Congresspeople into it?

If it's a choice for you, it should be a choice for them as well. It is NOT a commentary on the attractiveness of such a program. It is a commentary on the importance of being able to choose.
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12:22 PM on 09/24/2009
GOP enjoy all the GOVERNMENT run programs they speak out about,their health care program,medicare ,why are the rest of us not worthy of the same treatment on
a public health care option??????????????????
11:57 AM on 09/24/2009
Being an elected official working for the public, I guess, is hard work. People do get cranky.

Figure it out with the public option, or figure being voted out of office.
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kmac23va
12:04 PM on 09/24/2009
One reason they might be cranky is they're finishing up at 10pm or so each night, and starting up at 9:30 the next morning. Not much time to rest there. Unless you're Sen. Bunning and fall asleep while sitting in your chair.
Grunty1
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12:14 PM on 09/24/2009
Especially when most of them are used to 3 day, 20 hour work weeks under the Bush adminstration.
12:27 PM on 09/24/2009
True. Bunning gets to doze and drool because his schedule is so grueling. Think they could hold two jobs to pay for food, shelter and medical bills. hm.
11:56 AM on 09/24/2009
I have an amendment to the bill. No aerospace contracting with the federal government shall be accepted from any company who have facilities in states whose names start with the letter A.

Lets see, Alaska, Alabama, Arizona. Arizona!!!

Kyl is what he is, and hasn't changed in his decades of "public" service.
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temogen
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12:55 PM on 09/24/2009
and gets reelected so sad
11:55 AM on 09/24/2009
Arizona's Jon Kyl is one of the Senators who is completely bought and paid for by corporations and will always vote against the interest of the people and for corporate interests.. However, what makes him dangerous is that he is very smart. I would not be surprised if he was running for President in the not too distant future.
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PlanoBlue
11:58 AM on 09/24/2009
Do they really have anyone who can win? Umm, no.
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nogornc
GOP=Big Intrusive Government
11:53 AM on 09/24/2009
Milk Toast fight in Aisle 2!
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PlanoBlue
11:52 AM on 09/24/2009
Kyl was speaking in favor of a GOP amendment that could have prevented the government from implementing the bill – even if it's passed and signed into law.

They are so desperate.............like this amendment will be added to the bill.............
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njborne
GOP taking away freedom!
12:05 PM on 09/24/2009
I was thinking on the same line. But I must add, what planet do these people hail from? Think about it. This will be one of the most important law in the History of the United States. It's one that is needed, which everyone agrees. The GOP fought back on every effort designed to help or make our country better since President Obama took reign. So they expect to deliver a long diatribe in favor of an amendment designed to nullify this most important effort to save our union? What planet do these people hail from? Yes! I placed a preposition at the end of those sentences.