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04:20 PM on 04/06/2013
15 years is ridiculous. The victims can always grow their beards back, leave the sect and form their own.
techjockey
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06:03 PM on 04/06/2013
The charges stemmed from more than haircutting.
There was sexual assault & physical abuse charges against this mob, as well.
You don't reward abusers by forcing out the abused, & that's what the justice dept. got right in this case.
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blue555
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06:53 PM on 04/06/2013
Do you really think it's as simple as a shave and a haircut? Really?
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pciorlandosales
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04:13 PM on 04/06/2013
Back in the day ... they would just cut his hand off and send him on his way ... would save the taxpayers a lot of money, and you would not have to worry about him doing that again :)
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06:04 PM on 04/06/2013
Glad we don't live in your Utopia, but you're welcome to move to Sommalia.
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pciorlandosales
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06:28 PM on 04/06/2013
Some call me passive aggressive but I think I'm just fine the way I am :)
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03:53 PM on 04/06/2013
I'm sorry. How does this group get 15 years for cutting off a dude's beard (no matter how sacred it might be), yet the guy who watched child porn on a PLANE only got 2 1/2 SUSPENDED?

The justice system is a curious, convoluted thing
09:02 PM on 04/06/2013
Absurd answer child porn is an act of love, beard cutting an act of hate. Sick isn't it that we might be able to rationalize this way.
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10:00 PM on 04/06/2013
Oh my gosh, when I read the first sentence, I was like, "Oh, here we go!" lol. Thank God for the second sentence.

Being that I work on cases involving sex offenders quite regularly, I might have a bit more compassion for some of them than most (especially ones who were abused themselves--which is a pretty large percent of them), but I cannot condone molestation or child porn in any way, obviously. And the recidivism rate of those involved in pedophilic activity is extremely high--much higher than typical recidivism rates for other types of crime (sexually-based crimes being the exception).

That said, you are so very right. Anyone who rationalizes child porn or any pedophilia is, at least, a bit off--to be kind about it.
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09:33 PM on 04/06/2013
Only the leader got 15, other's got as little as one.
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floridan56
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01:33 AM on 04/07/2013
He definately sounds like 'head thug'.
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ChesapeakePirate
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03:49 PM on 04/06/2013
Oh, heck, just let 'em out when the other guy's beards grow back.
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03:23 PM on 04/06/2013
If you are a convicted criminal, why do you possibly get release just because you have an appeal going? Your presumption of innocence is over. You are a criminal serving time.
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03:56 PM on 04/06/2013
Not a violent offender. Most states only keep defendants incarcerated during appeal when it's determined they are either a flight risk or present a danger to others.
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05:25 PM on 04/06/2013
It's not a question of flight risk. The fear is that he would be placed in a community where some of the resident men wear beards. I for one, would have trouble sleeping at night knowing there is a "shaver" in the neighborhood.
12:29 AM on 04/07/2013
Hmmm, let's see. They broke into one guys' house, held him down and held his wife down in the other room, and cut her hair. How would you feel if they did that to your wife, your sister, or your daughter? Breaking into someone's home, restraining them, and assaulting them, IS violent.
lolly caust
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03:05 PM on 04/06/2013
i think what they did is awful and i think the sentences are too harsh.
a more just sentence?
they should all be shaved - heads and faces and on probation that includes them remaining shaved for the length of time it takes their victims to grow back their hair/beards
and therapy.

it costs about 30K a year for each prisoner, and i don't see how that serves anyone
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hazyafternoonsunshine
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06:20 PM on 04/06/2013
Shaving them would violate their civil rights. I think they should be given a choice: shaving plus 15 years probation and a restraining order keeping them a safe distance from the neighbors they terrorized, or 15 years prison. That way they could decide how important their beards are. If they chose the shave, then the probation and RO would keep them in line once they were returned to their community.
lolly caust
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06:43 PM on 04/06/2013
well, yeah.  they would have to agree to the shaving.
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Razpooten
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02:55 PM on 04/06/2013
Are you paying attention Zeus9000?
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Razpooten
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02:53 PM on 04/06/2013
Yet more proof that religion maks one nuking futz.
08:46 PM on 04/08/2013
Razpooten we see more of it every day.....even among our so called "politicians".
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02:08 PM on 04/06/2013
"arguing that the group's conviction, sentencing & imprisonment in separate facilities across the country violates their constitutional rights & amounts to cruel & unusual punishment"

Tough, you do the crime, you do the time.

"because of their religion, cannot travel by plane and have to hire drivers for car travel" Tough, you do the crime, your family pays the price with you. We are not going to build a prison just because you want to be close to those that you desire to continue to manipulate and control every aspect of their lives. Plus, show me where it's written that you can't drive in a car, but you can ride in one. Where's the sense in that? If you aren't supposed to have anything mechanical, then don't even get in the car at all. You aren't even allowed to have zippers!

"argued they're bound by rules guided by their religion & the government should never have gotten involved in what amounted to a family/church dispute."

Once again, tough. The rules of your religion demand that you leave your hair/beards a certain way but then you whack off ladies hair & men's beards because they don't do what you say, but you can't understand why the government stepped in? Really? So you can break your religion's rules to punish other people who broke the rules of the same religion? And you say that your actions are not hate crimes? It is the very definition of a hate crime.
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04:52 PM on 04/06/2013
Agree - other prisoners are sent far away from their families also, and they either travel to visit or they don't go at all!
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02:02 PM on 04/06/2013
Fifteen years is perfect for this IMO bully and thug.
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01:55 PM on 04/06/2013
We need to stop letting the amish do what they want. If you read real accounts of what happens in many communities there is rape of women, and children, and nothing is done about it, except making the rapist pray. And they punish the child or woman who got raped as well. Then he goes back and does it again.
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01:40 PM on 04/06/2013
No welcome to the. REAL WORLD OUTSIDE. BACKWOODS.
TOO bad serve your time for doing the crime.
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Robert Frano
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01:33 PM on 04/06/2013
Re: "that Mullet showed no remorse for the attacks and "enjoyed receiving prompt reports about the violent assaults, and even received a bag of hair as proof that one such assault was successful."

Except for the severity of the outcome / targeted body area…
I see very few, if any, ‘differences’, between this ‘mulletectomy’, by Mullet, (sr. & jr.’s) and…

A sharia-demanded ‘honor’ killing…

In both cases…
Intolerant religiosity’s un-restrained true believers has/have given itself/themselves the green light for physically abusive behaviors carried out on non-, &/or, other-believers!

And while the Amish targeted here may insist on being called, ‘Amish’, they were clearly apostate, (and hence, ‘non-believers’), in the eyes of Mullet & sons!!

MY (ancestral) Catholicism WAS / IS / REMAINS GUILTY of tens, to-hundreds-of-thousands of such barbarities!

…Amends making, anyone? …Moral relevatism, anyone?
01:10 PM on 04/06/2013
The judge is over doing with this sentence. People who commit serious injuries to others, don't get that much time.
01:03 PM on 04/06/2013
Mullet just sounds like another guy using religion to assert complete control over church members. They have to be stopped.