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samidean 10:55 PM on 04/10/2013
Righties, if you people think that the seniors in YOUR party are for this chained CPI BS, then think again, because in a recent AARP survey of people 50 and over, of Republicans, Democrats and Independents, 87% say it is " VERY IMPORTANT" that benefits are NOT cut for current seniors, or those nearing retirement age, with there only being a 1% difference between party affiliations, and 65% said that it  Read More...
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martman1
retired business owner
08:48 AM on 04/11/2013
$50 billion over 10 years on increased infrastructure spending. Wow! That's $5 billion a year - quite a stimulus! The American Society of Engineers says we need $3.6 trillion of work done.

The Congressional Progressive Caucus budget spent $2.1 trillion over 10 years on jobs, created 7 million in the first year alone, raised over $4 trillion in extra revenue from billionaires and closing corporate loopholes, carbon tax, financial transaction tax, reduced the deficit by $4.4 trillion, got the public debt to GDP ratio down to 62%, included a proposal for public financing of elections and didn't touch "entitlement" benefits at all. Naturally, all of the Republicans and 106 bought Democrats out of 180 voted against it.
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08:52 AM on 04/11/2013
Baby steps.
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ComradeRutherford
03:02 PM on 04/11/2013
The Republicans decided to blow $4T on war in Iraq and Afghanistan rather than on America.
08:47 AM on 04/11/2013
Let me guess, SS cuts will pass, stimulus will not. Liberals thought that now that Obama is not running for anything anymore, he wouldn't be so compromising. It turns out that now that Obama does not need liberal votes anymore, he can be as compromising as he always wanted to be.
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Bermille
Sarcasm R US
08:58 AM on 04/11/2013
Sorry, there won't be seperate bills and they won't pass the senate regardless if they pass the house so its moot.
09:01 AM on 04/11/2013
Hope you are right but I would not hold my breath. Obama has given cover to a lot of "moderate Democrats" in the Senate to pass SS CPI reform.
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ComradeRutherford
03:03 PM on 04/11/2013
Obama has only ever started negotiations from the middle and negotiated toward the extremist Republicans position.
08:46 AM on 04/11/2013
Man, these lib policies are really making a positive difference. I mean, just look at California, Detroit and Chicago.

LOL
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Lhill60517
The world we live in & life in general
08:57 AM on 04/11/2013
Let's look at Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas too...
08:58 AM on 04/11/2013
Nah, the lib cities and states are much worse. 
Is Detroit even around anymore, or have the lib mayors of the past century completely destroyed it? LOL
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Bermille
Sarcasm R US
08:58 AM on 04/11/2013
Just look at Texas.
08:59 AM on 04/11/2013
Yep. Huge budget surplus and no state taxes. LOL
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wisconsinsteve
I am not a strawman.
09:13 AM on 04/11/2013
Highest property tax rates in the nation.
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Janet68
08:46 AM on 04/11/2013
I like how deficit reduction don't begin until 2020. Talk about passing a disaster off.
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08:53 AM on 04/11/2013
It's kick the can politics as usual.
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Bermille
Sarcasm R US
08:59 AM on 04/11/2013
Like all those deficit reduction plans started under Bush? Oh right, they started deficit ballooning.
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RenaissancePartyTime
Because The Situation Is Grim
09:12 AM on 04/11/2013
You are so partisan you seen unwilling to address anything on its face. Bush is the past, a miserable failure of the past. The comment was made about Obama´s policy. What are your feelings about the original post, not Bush?
08:46 AM on 04/11/2013
We just scurry around, working, thinking the money is ours. But it isn't. The money really belongs to the government.

It watches it as it flows in and out of accounts. It dips into the accounts, removes cash, pays its employees with some of it, gives some to politicians to spend. It pinches the economy here, tweaks it there. Usually badly.
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jwalton2042
Honesty hurts get use to it
08:39 AM on 04/11/2013
If spending digs the hole, then spending will not EXTRICATE YOU FROM THE HOLE!
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Kahuna717
08:39 AM on 04/11/2013
Obama's 3 months late Budget is a joke! This guy wants to levy another $1.5 Trillion in new taxes on the American people so he can keep spending us into oblivion? That meamns $8.3 Trillion in Obama debt during his reign. Once again, his ridiculous Budget will not get even one Democrat vote; much less any from Republicans. Is 2016 here yet?
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
09:32 AM on 04/11/2013
Today you're a deficit hawk are ya? Where were you went Bush decided to give away 2.2 trillion dollars of federal revenue to the wealthiest individuals masquerading as a 'jobs program' with NO concomitant drop in federal expenditures?'

Where were you went Bush decided to invade, occupy and nation-build half the Muslim world on funny-money Bush-bucks?

Where were you when Bush and Alan Greenspan decided to self-regulate our most precious and critical industry in this country, the housing industry, into the ground?

I understand your frustration but understand the Democratic position. We're not going to let you decimate the bottom half of this country so that you people can evade both the responsibility and the pain for YOUR OWN BLUNDERING MISTAKES!!
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Kahuna717
03:34 PM on 04/11/2013
msbeal,
You should not comment on matters that are above your inetllectual capacity. Everything you wrote (like most arguments made by liberal Dems) is false; inept; blatant lies; or just stupidity.
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08:37 AM on 04/11/2013
Its not spending to obama---its REDISTRIBUTION...
Every bill he proposes is about REDISTRIBUTION.. The results are what you see in 99% obama voting districts..
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Janet68
08:48 AM on 04/11/2013
Obama capping retirement at $3 million is another redistribution ploy. Those who have above that run the risk of the government walking in and skimming the extra off the top and giving it to one of his bottomfeeders who've done nothing their whole lives to plan for retirement.
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09:28 AM on 04/11/2013
Every one of his bills are...
We have his mini me here in MA and he wants to lower sales tax and increase income tax??? If you work you pay more if you don't you pay less..
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
10:00 AM on 04/11/2013
How far do you figure you are from the end of a monopoly game where one player out of the five playing holds 96% of all the money and property?

Because that's exactly the distribution of wealth in America today. The upper 1% holds 42.1% of all the wealth, the next 19% hold 53.5% and the ENTIRE bottom 80% holds a mere 4.7% of the wealth.

I understand you don't want to pay taxes, I don't want to pay taxes either. Maybe that's because you and I aren't in that upper 20% bracket!!

We don't seem to have a problem asking the lower end to send their sons and daughters off in harm's way for this country so why are we so squeamish asking the über wealthy to sacrifice a bit of their bloated Wall Street portfolios for this country's well being?

The really ironic part to me is that because of the nature of our economic system, wealth properly and productively redistributed from the top downward, solves our economic problems AND within a very few short years ENDS UP RIGHT BACK IN THEIR PORTFOLIOS!!

You couldn't stop these people from making money with a 2 x 4 planted in the middle of their foreheads.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
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10:44 AM on 04/11/2013
Get a job work hard and be successful.. when you take that away as they did in early puritan times people stopped being productive..
The factor you miss in your equation is death...
When you enlist in the armed forces war is part of the deal.. I didn't ask them to enlist..
Socialism does not work..
Its like spoiling a child, they do not work either..
The best we can do is help create opportunity--welfare for democRAT votes does not do that..
Teach him to fish or give him a fish???
08:36 AM on 04/11/2013
there will be no more spendulus....that liberal fun time is ovah
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Cleat Edmonson
Truth is not half way between right and wrong
08:29 AM on 04/11/2013
Mr. Prez; There is no such thing as a Grand Bargain in any of this. If you put Chained CPI into the mix it is a sell out. If you put more burden on the least able to shoulder it without tackling the Corporatocracy and the 1% it will lead down a path we cannot sustain. That what the Teapublicans want... unsustainable government. Great that you proposed a budget (again) but it is not going anywhere anyway. Giving stuff away won't gain Teapublican support because they will just want more cuts. Too bad they now see that you are okay with cuts... the rest of us, who voted for you, are so okay with that.
09:32 AM on 04/11/2013
You can tax the 1% @100% and it would only sustain the government for 4 months. The top 5% @ 100% will get you 6 months. So, what are you going to do for funding the government the next 6 or 8 months? I understand that want happen, but the simple demonstrates that just taxing the rich is not going to solve the problem. We are going to have to agree to meet somewhere in the middle that don't include the government confiscation of it's citizens money and taking care of those in our society who need help. Today we all will withdraw more from social security than we put in and that math just doesn't work.
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Cleat Edmonson
Truth is not half way between right and wrong
09:48 AM on 04/11/2013
The "meeting in the middle" part is not just tax the rich... it is stop the welfare to the corporations. Get them away from the trough and re-regulate them to create a more level field. The math works fine... that is a kool-aid response to say that it doesn't work. If you are worried about that then raise the cap on limit of income for SS tax. Yes, the rich DO have it better as a percent of income. Quit saying we are broke when we are not. Faux Nooz has not got a clue when it comes to what it would actually take to fix anything.
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BoycottFox2
Fox News Viewers Know Less.
08:28 AM on 04/11/2013
As far Jobs go, Wisconsin: Walker prepares for China trade mission.....Guess thats his idea of creating jobs in Wisc........Sorry Wisc. you been had.
http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_22997955/wisconsin-walker-prepares-china-trade-mission
08:48 AM on 04/11/2013
And Jerry Brown is in China now trying to get more money to help build a high speed rail in CA, and CA is broke.
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Ray Gonomics
08:26 AM on 04/11/2013
I was amused when I read all the comments by pearls clutching Firedoggers re: Social Security cuts. Obama has no intention of cutting Social Security. If there is one thing the guy knows by this time, it is that he could propose that the sun will rise in the east, and the GOP will insist that it rises in the West. It is all political posturing, attempting to make the other side look bad.

Let's face it folks: until both bicameral bodies are the same party as the POTUS—whether it be in 2014, 2016, 2018, or beyond, nothing of substance will be accomplished in D.C.
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oopscdaysz
Live long and Prosper in PEACE
08:32 AM on 04/11/2013
so many people fail to understand that not a single dollar of Social Security would be cut. The CPI is nothing more than a different way to calculate the Cost of Living INCREASES.
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mickey27
NYC independent
08:51 AM on 04/11/2013
True. The chained CPI is almost meaningless. The left as usual is screaming that retirees will starve. To a SS receiver of say $2,000/month...he or she will now get $5 less. OMG...how horrible!
08:53 AM on 04/11/2013
IF you have both bicameral parties the same as the POTUS, you'll have a Socialist or Communist nation that you apparently think is a good thing. I've lived in one, and I don't think it is.
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Ray Gonomics
09:04 AM on 04/11/2013
I wonder if George W. Bush realizes that he was a Communist between 2003 and 2007.
08:24 AM on 04/11/2013
Hand them poison. When they refuse to eat it, call it apple pie. The low-info voters believe it. Mission accomplished.
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Scurvydog74
08:21 AM on 04/11/2013
"Lost in the analysis is that the White House budget acknowledges the nation is still in the midst of a jobs crisis but provides few new ideas to address the problem. The $3.7 trillion budget includes a variety of stimulative measures, some of which are new. But lawmakers have seen most of them before and aren't any likelier to pass them now." Congress's handlers and benefactors in the corporate world are beginning to really like the plusses of having millions of workers willing to work for peanuts. If anything were done to alleviate unemployment, labor costs might start to rise and people might actually look for NEW jobs and corporations might have to cease with their "take it or leave" approach to increasing efficiency through intimidation and fear. Corporations are quite contact with the labor market as it exists today. It's an employers world and employers own the government. So don't look for any measures to come out of congress or the White House that would boost employment.
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oopscdaysz
Live long and Prosper in PEACE
08:34 AM on 04/11/2013
The White House has no less than 3 Jobs bills and 2 Infrastructure bills that Boehner flatly refuses to allow to come to the floor for a vote. THEY would allow the US GOVT to put out bids for contracts. Companies would bid on those contracts and purchase items and hire people to fulfill those contracts....I am sorry that you seem to lack the understanding that you need to PRIME THE PUMP to get things going. And by the Govt contracts to repair things like roads and bridges it takes some of the burden off the States who then will have more money to do other things.
08:38 AM on 04/11/2013
they cost money and we are not buying people jobs...
11:20 AM on 04/11/2013
Were any of the President Jobs "Proposals" (the President can't create a bill) ever authored into a bill? They tried to amend his "jobs bills" to spending bills. It goes both ways. Boehner and the House passed a total of 6 jobs bills and Senator Reid refused to allow them to the floor for a vote. They need to restore normal order to both Houses of Congress. Then Bills from both sides will get an up or down vote.
08:18 AM on 04/11/2013
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O's RIDICULOUS budget will end up being Bush or Paul Ryan's fault..
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oopscdaysz
Live long and Prosper in PEACE
08:34 AM on 04/11/2013
you are a paid poster and a more on.
08:39 AM on 04/11/2013
its bush's fault
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vegancheesenut
Proud American Socialist
08:43 AM on 04/11/2013
I'll second that....