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Horus45
Liberal Activist, anti-Fascist
12:05 PM on 10/08/2009
The money that is wasted keeping marijuana users in jail would be enough to give the entire country Single-Payer Health Care!
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MalloMel
12:34 PM on 10/08/2009
Shhh! Be quiet... You are not supposed to say that.
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missouriwatcher
military veteran, veteran teacher, father, grandpa
03:45 PM on 10/08/2009
True. And the savings from lawdawgs not chasing around after it would soon put the budget back in the black.
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nomadrdw
Zen Druid
12:02 PM on 10/08/2009
the prohibition on pot was spearheaded by the rich to protect paper interest and since mainly black people smoked it was a way to control them also. once again, the common people are the ones paying and the rich get richer.
12:13 PM on 10/08/2009
This makes zero sense.
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x76
HELP HELP I'VE BEEN BANNED
12:21 PM on 10/08/2009
Jack Herer's "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" (ISBN 1878125028) will answer all of your questions regarding the absurd laws against hemp and "marijuana".
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MalloMel
12:36 PM on 10/08/2009
You must be one of those rich people that nomadrdw is referring to. It figures.l
12:18 PM on 10/08/2009
Not to be too contrary but actually...
There is racial connection, but it was primarily those "strange migrant brown people" who the white establishment was afraid would teach white children and weak-minded adults their pot smoking ways.
12:49 PM on 10/08/2009
I understand; The term "Marijuana", itself is racist....

http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/anslinger.htm
11:56 AM on 10/08/2009
There is really only one factor to be considered in this matter: have the current “War on Drugs” and the prohibition of Marijuana been effective? No matter which side of the fence you sit on this subject, I think that is safe to say that the prohibition of marijuana is anything but a complete failure. Since the 80’s when Regan really began this crusade against drugs, the ease to which people can get marijuana and other drugs for that matter, has done nothing but increased. Every time a major bust occurs, the amount seized has increased but yet it’s still be continues to be easier to acquire.

And even if all the arguments against the legalization were true (many of which are totally baseless), does that still justify continuing a policy which is a failure? I see a lot of comments about what effect legalization will have on kids of people driving under the influence of Marijuana. Has the prohibition of this drug stopped that from currently happening?

This is an industry that thrives despite the resources put into stopping it and that is completely unregulated. So in a state strapped for cash as badly as CA, you have to ask yourself this: is it worth it to continue to enforce a policy that costs you billions of dollars a year with no real results or rather legalize and regulate the states biggest cash crop to provide control over something that exists whether you try to stop it or not?
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MalloMel
12:44 PM on 10/08/2009
What's wrong with you? What about all those that depend on MJ being illegal for their livelihood... politicians, law enforcement, the legal establishment, and just plain criminals? Now tell me. What are we supposed to do with them?
01:14 PM on 10/08/2009
Don't know whether you were being sarcastic or not but...

Politicians get paid from many other weathy big businesses like Health Care and Wall Street so no real loss there. Cops, Laywers, and judges can spend time locking up more violent criminals. Rapist and Murderers over potheads, imo.
11:53 AM on 10/08/2009
It is about time we recognize that marijuana is being currently enjoyed by a large number of people in their forties, fifties and sixties. Professionals, parents, grandparents, in short, responsible people who prefer marijuana to a martini. We need to de-criminalize grandma, and we really need that revenue to stay in America.
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tibetanterrier
reirretnatebit
11:48 AM on 10/08/2009
Marin County charges 150 $'s for your cannabis card.. That is freaking outrages and it forces me to continue to buy from the creep on the street where he charges 55 $'s for the 40 $ bag he purchased @ the club. I'm not a big smoker and that little bag can last 3 months so I won't pay the county their fee.. Please tax me for my small purchase
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11:45 AM on 10/08/2009
The new rage in Calif is Supercritical Fluid Extraction of the active ingredients of pot
11:43 AM on 10/08/2009
The hypocrisy and wrong headedness of the Drug Wars, particular the war on marijuana undermines our respect for government and law enforcement. Legalize it, already. And put the Feds on notice that they are elected officials also and their cowardice on this subject for the last thirty years can either be corrected or confronted at the ballot box.
11:41 AM on 10/08/2009
Finally-
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guendy
Above all, peace and freedom
11:34 AM on 10/08/2009
WOO HOO! Californians will get all the tax revenue from marijuana! Yey! We need it. So my question is this: if it will be illegal at the federal level, will the IRS tax it?
11:52 AM on 10/08/2009
Income is income. Maybe you've paid more attention than I but I can't recall ever seeing something on a form that orders a person to distinguish "legal income" vs "illegal income".
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nomadrdw
Zen Druid
11:55 AM on 10/08/2009
tax evasion has always been one of the main charges for pot growers, so i can't imagine that they won't continue and probably at a higher level. if you make a profit, declare it.
11:33 AM on 10/08/2009
Here is another waste of american tax dollars and law enforcement time. Why not decriminalize marijuana? Why not tax it as a substance like alcohol and sell it through liquor stores? Having the DEA track down folks growing hemp in their basement is ludicrous. Get law enforcement out of it.
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ClarcKing
Citizen
11:33 AM on 10/08/2009
The United States is suffering under a strategic financial offensive. If the United States does implement economy formation measures now, the U.S. economy will stop functioning; with unimaginable consequences. A hemp based economy is not going to cut it. WE need a fully functioning, cognizant citizenry; not tokers/dopers who are served by the undermining, corrupting, U.S. nation hating, International Drug Cartel. Americans are struggling in the middle of an ongoing collapsing economic crisis; Our political leadership is so feeble as to prepare to manage a economic and population contraction policy. I implore my fellows that this proposal is selfish and evil. We are challenged by a disguised domestic and foreign enemy.
Only the United States can confront the International Monetary Financier Power; can lead and cooperate with other nations in reorganizing the world economic/financial system.
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truenortherner
All will be revealed
12:16 PM on 10/08/2009
Dude, have you been smoking?
12:19 PM on 10/08/2009
Spark one up, Mate...it ain't quite as bad as you think....
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worldlyhick
11:31 AM on 10/08/2009
The prohibition on cannabis should be removed all over the USA.

A fresher product handled with more care ( than I assume the cartels are able to deliver) would likely be healthier to consume. It would be fresher, more carefully handled.

Some small growers could produce specialty, "gourmet" plants!
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missouriwatcher
military veteran, veteran teacher, father, grandpa
11:31 AM on 10/08/2009
Decriminalization is a much better overall solution than legalization.
11:46 AM on 10/08/2009
no it's really not.. you still have people wrongfully locked up for it costing us billions in taxes a year. You're still wasting money on law enforcement going after it AND the Mexican Drug Cartels would still have power over it.

Decrim isn't the answer, outright legalization is. I'm done compromising what SHOULD be for what I can get.
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missouriwatcher
military veteran, veteran teacher, father, grandpa
03:24 PM on 10/08/2009
Legalization refers to authentication or certification by an appropriate public authority. It is an act to make something lawful. It may also be called legitimation. For example, legalization of casino gambling refers to making casino gambling lawful; or legalization of assisted suicide refers to making assisted suicide lawful and legitimate, and legal consequences shall not follow a legitimate act.

Decriminalization is the legislative repeal or amendment of statutes which made certain acts criminal, so that those acts no longer are ilegal. Many states have decriminalized certain sexual practices between consenting adults, loitering, or laws against marriage or cohabitation between people of different races.

There has been a recent movement for the decriminalization of the use of some narcotics (particularly marijuana) by adults. Medical marijuana use is legal in certain areas when prescribed for medical purposes. Proponents suggest that decriminalization has several beneficial consequences, including budgetary savings for state and local governments, improved welfare for marijuana users, and an improved allocation of criminal justice resources. Opponents suggest that decriminalization produces a substantial increase in marijuana use along with increased crime and other negative effects.

Some crimes which have been decriminalized in at least some parts of the world include sodomy, homosexuality, paganism, abortion, suicide and prostitution. in 1979, marijuana was decriminalized in eleven states of the United States. Canada decriminalized suicide and attempted suicide in 1972. Abortion was decriminalized in the U.S. in 1973 with the decision of Roe v. Wade.

Source: definitions.USLegal.com
11:47 AM on 10/08/2009
I disagree. It puts everyone in a murky no mans land between legality and prison. Decrim will stifle the growth of the industry because it will continue to be defacto illegal. Therefore any initiatives to develop good sources and outlets will face more hurdles than they should. Legalization is the best answer.
If you run a dispensary you have to break the law to acquire product...and the grower has to break the law to provide enough product to market, that is the nature of the decrim situation and there are legitimate dispensary operators doing over twenty years in prison because it isn't "really" legal....
11:50 AM on 10/08/2009
.................And: Federally DE-Scheduling
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LogicNow
In cannabis veritas
11:26 AM on 10/08/2009
Our Founding Fathers grew hemp, wore hemp, wrote on hemp and smoked hemp. I say if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for us!!! Legalize it NOW!!
03:06 PM on 10/08/2009
Prohibition has made our Founding Fathers' judgement wrong. It is really a shame.
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MysticMichael
Progressive - not PC
11:23 AM on 10/08/2009
Given its very limited resources, DEA really needs to establish some reasonable priorities. It needs to focus on the toxic, dangerous stuff that destroys lives - like crystal meth, like crack cocaine, like heroin and other opiates - and just leave the weed alone...