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REMOVETHEVEIL
If u don't agree ur not the 1st move on :)
06:37 PM on 07/09/2013
So he gets deported for reporting that he was not paid fair wages but the company really doesn't get much of anything done to them. Sad that we think fair treatment and rights are only for the people born in America.
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Winter Skye
I wore an onion belt, which was the fashion then..
06:44 PM on 07/09/2013
LOL--you've got to be kidding me! Once you break the law by coming here illegally, it's sheer madness to expect to be treated the same as a native or legal citizen. Go to Canada or France--countries that are considered quite liberal and with good standards of living. See if you would get the welcome wagon.
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REMOVETHEVEIL
If u don't agree ur not the 1st move on :)
09:47 PM on 07/09/2013
Well guess what no one would come here if companies wouldn't hire them so sounds like this is an internal problem that will need to be fixed inside before blaming those on the outside.
07:04 PM on 07/09/2013
That's why the R's want enforcement first. But you also have to get rid of the "sanctuary" cities that invite illegals to come there because you are giving them tacit approval to work there and you won't allow the employers to ask about citizenship.
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REMOVETHEVEIL
If u don't agree ur not the 1st move on :)
09:53 PM on 07/09/2013
Employers ask about citizenship but guess what?  People lie and since it cost money to follow up to find out if they are really citizens it never happens.
I agree If employers stop hiring people from other countries that are here illegally then we won't have this issue but since that's not going to happen there are going to have to be rules put in place to establish rights for and protect the rights of illegals.
06:33 PM on 07/09/2013
This guy has some guts. He's a criminal. It's a crime to come to the US illegally and it's a crime to stay past a valid visa. He should get himself right with the law and leave the USA immediately. He was stealing the job of an American when he was working there illegally. Illegal immigration is not a victimless job! It has many victims. And he's a victimizer!
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mendelcrosses
06:49 PM on 07/09/2013
Its an offense also to employ undocumented worker. Remind me what action has been taken against the employer?

Its an offense to enter the country undocumented but it isnt an offense to claim payment for the work you do. But it is an offense to not pay people fairly for the work they do for you
07:24 PM on 07/09/2013
This is comprehensive immigration reform: 1. Require E-Verify for all current and future employees and couple it with a swift appeals process for those who do not pass E-Verify. 2. Couple that with severe (at least $20,000 per illegal hired per day if hired without E-Verify permission and disallow (make not permissible under the Internal Revenue Code) any expense deduction for such hires. Illegals and their co-conspirators (employers) steal jobs from Americans.

Read this article and pay particular attention to the first two paragraphs and know that that situation whereby illegal immigrants take jobs from Blacks is multiplied by thousands of instances nationwide:http://www.theroot.com/views/how-illegal-immigration-hurts-black-america?utm_medium=feed&obref=obinsite

And jobs are being stolen in many fields, including construction, hospitality, restaurants and food production, manufacturing and more!
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stagleap03
06:31 PM on 07/09/2013
What irony: companies hire illegals to pay them dirt cheap wages, but illegals are afraid to report that because they'll get deported. So what's the bigger harm here?
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
06:59 PM on 07/09/2013
What happened first?

The Chicken, or the Egg?
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Connie Freise
07:03 PM on 07/09/2013
figures!
06:30 PM on 07/09/2013
A hearing? He should be on a bus and out of here now. More money wasted.
06:30 PM on 07/09/2013
There should be HUGE penalties for employers, especially ones that knowingly hire undocumented workers.
06:23 PM on 07/09/2013
The government has ALWAYS known how to stop illegal immigration: Prosecute employers and fine them heavily.

But because our government is OWNED by business interests, that will NEVER happen.

Instead, business will get to 1) hire undocumented workers 2) exploit them 3) reap profits from their illegal conduct and then 4) get the undocumented employee deported if they complain.

This hurts both the exploited undocumented worker and the documented worker who has to compete with the exploited labor.

The fix is obvious, but will never never happen because American business loves its cheap, illegal, undocumented labor.
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Ralph Pena
06:33 PM on 07/09/2013
Your post will be the only cogent and sensible post on these boards. The solution you describe is the ONLY way to effectively curtail illegal immigration. If employers can be fined or imprisoned for hiring the undocumented, work opportunities would dry up almost immediately. Most of the other posts are pure bluster.
06:49 PM on 07/09/2013
Thanks. However I should also mention that having been around a lot of undocumented workers I would rather have them as fellow citizens than a good percentage of the Americans I meet.

The vast majority are hard workers, honest, uncomplaining, live in lousy conditions, accept low pay, and still manage to send money home to their families. A lot of them have even risked their lives to come here, while the children of our "leaders" think it is beneath them even to participate in the military that allegedly secures their freedom.

The undocumented workers exhibit a better work ethic and higher family values than most native born Americans and 99% of Congress.
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AMJ889
Me
07:02 PM on 07/09/2013
He did not lay out a solution....
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mendelcrosses
06:52 PM on 07/09/2013
It isnt that easy at all. Thats the law in UK - employers get fined £10K per undocumented worker they employ - but still you get many undocumented workers.
06:15 PM on 07/09/2013
Next up: Dope dealers demand the right to report drug ripoffs without facing repercussions. If you're doing something illegal, whatever it is, it puts you at a disadvantage when you encounter problems, because it's sort of hard to go to authorities and complain.

I hate to tell this to Mr. Vanegas, but his $7 an hour cash wage almost certainly left him better off than U.S. citizens earning minimum wage; their gross was not their net, since they had to pay Social Security tax, income tax withholding, etc. Would he be happy if we pulled deportation off the table, and just went after him for tax evasion? Or does he want a completely free pass?

His tale also shows the folly of the amnesty in terms of bringing people "out of the shadows," and the limited utility of e-Verify. E-Verify expansion is a good thing, but this guy's employer and lots of other exploitative employers are employing the illegals off the books. The employer will just move on to newly-arrived illegal immigrants after the amnesty.
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docfred78
06:11 PM on 07/09/2013
He say "This is a country of laws" then is surprised when they enforced them. He should get paid the Pita pit, it should be investigated and fined and maybe legal action against the owner/managers. They robbed him and he was robbing someone of a job in DC. Also you can't organize labor that is her illegally. Good luck back in Guatemala with their labor laws.
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
06:07 PM on 07/09/2013
This is like calling the cops because someone stole your drugs...
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mendelcrosses
06:53 PM on 07/09/2013
It isnt.
Selling drugs and having drugs is illegal but working is not.
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iuriggs6
Sure thing. Shoot, Timmy.
08:30 PM on 07/09/2013
The guy is in the country illegally.
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
10:54 PM on 07/10/2013
Yes it is when you are here illegally. 
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mendelcrosses
06:54 PM on 07/09/2013
What is illegal is to not pay people who work for you - undocumented or not. Its called slavery,the latter.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
07:01 PM on 07/09/2013
Illegals have been unauthorized to work in the USA, since ~ The Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986, 26yrs & 7mos ago
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
10:54 PM on 07/10/2013
He was getting paid. He should not have been though since he shouldn't have been employed. 
06:05 PM on 07/09/2013
Undocumented or not. Citizen or not. Wage theft is an epidemic in the United States.
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
06:11 PM on 07/09/2013
Citizens and legal immigrants have recourse through the courts, this is the price you pay for working off the books.
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mendelcrosses
06:55 PM on 07/09/2013
You mean like Lilly Ledbeter who had to wait 30 years for a court hearing?
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Stephen the Grate
There is grandeur in this view of life ...
05:58 PM on 07/09/2013
So what happened to the employer who was hiring illegal workers? Nothing, and that lies at the heart of the need for immigration reform. If we really wanted to stop illegal immigration, we would prosecute the people who provide them employment to the fullest extent of the law. They would stop staying here if they couldn't find work. The rich, who hire them as maids and gardeners and treat them like indentured servants, the corporations, who hire illegals and pay them under the table cheating them and us, and the farmers, who use them as cheap labor to harvest our crops. Any solution must address this problem and provide protections to these workers. The current system must not be permitted to continue.
06:16 PM on 07/09/2013
F & F

Right On.... Good post
06:24 PM on 07/09/2013
Exactly. F&F
05:57 PM on 07/09/2013
Pay what they owe him - then deport him. He should not have been here anyway - and illegally to boot.
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The 4th Degree
Don't get me wrong, if I come and go like fashion.
06:04 PM on 07/09/2013
Fair. Then kick out the owner from his location where he sells to federal workers every day.
06:22 PM on 07/09/2013
I agree 4th Degree.

This government operates by penalizing the under privileged rather than penalizing the owners who practice Slavery under the table.

That is just the opposite of the drug war. In the drug war they penalize the drug dealers when they can find them but never penalize the Drug purchasers that make drug sales so profitable.

We have a Justice system that uses laws only when it benefits the government or the wealthy. It is called "Selective Prosecution".
06:34 PM on 07/09/2013
YES! Both MUST happen!
05:53 PM on 07/09/2013
GREED SUCKS!
05:51 PM on 07/09/2013
The main reason he was picked up & won't get a break is precisely because he proved that DHS & ICE are incompetent & can't even properly verify the status of a guy who's making their lunch every day for 3yrs. If he'd been working elsewhere, maybe he'd have a chance at generating more sympathy, but he made them look stupid...

Not that he doesn't have a point - he should've been paid what he was owed for overtime, etc. His situation is precisely what drives employers to hire illegals & feel comfortable cheating them in the first place. Question is, did anything happen to his employer & his business in the building?? Probably not...
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06:03 PM on 07/09/2013
Two things. First, it's not illegal to hire an illegal immigrant in a sanctuary city. I don't agree with it, but many work openly and no one cares. Second, if DHS or ICE suspected he was illegal and had asked him they would be accused of profiling and racism. They can't win when it comes to this issue. The fact they are doing anything at all, this guy must have done something like threaten his employer. Normally they don't care unless the illegal immigrant breaks the law.
06:47 PM on 07/09/2013
Probably true on the first part ... All the more reason to focus on the employers doing the hiring/cheating instead of the employees. If employers weren't willing to do that to enrich themselves, hiring illegals wouldn't be so much of a problem. Are DHS/ICE prohibited from inspecting businesses for compliance?  Especially in their own building?
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Connie Freise
07:11 PM on 07/09/2013
Just because they do it openly doesn't mean it is not illegal, it just means that they only care to check when it is more beneficial.
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SmotPoker
Now with 100% less beard.
05:50 PM on 07/09/2013
If they truly wanted to stop situations such as this with illegal immigrants taking jobs they need to fine the employer that participates in such hiring practices. I am talking about a big fine, not a slap on the wrist fine either. Make the fines somewhat crippling to their business so they understand that it can all be taken away in a blink of an eye if they continue their behavior.
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CinMI
Witness to the destruction by the GOP
05:55 PM on 07/09/2013
Truth.
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SmotPoker
Now with 100% less beard.
06:02 PM on 07/09/2013
Just so it's clear, I have no beef with immigrants that come here legally, work, and try to raise a family that has a better lifestyle than he did growing up, I get that man, I'm totally down with it. That is the American dream isn't it? Young people may npt think so, but they will soon find out they are wrong. They will marry, raise a child, have a family, and they will want to give their child a better life than what they had growing up....
One thing I would tell them is that the American dream is an illusion. It is not real. It is a nightmare of debt, injustice is the norm, everything is upside down, and backwards at the moment. Enter at your own risk.
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Wrench Turner
Fuhgeddaboutit...
06:13 PM on 07/09/2013
Revoking the operating licenses would be better than fines.