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04:30 PM on 08/03/2013
But aren't female dominated , orientated work places meant to be beacons of utopia ?
No woman would ever bully, victimise another woman, surely?
10:02 PM on 08/03/2013
You'll notice the founder of Lululemon was a man.
03:17 AM on 08/04/2013
in that case it shows the exploitive manipulative type of personality is gender neutral .
Yes ?
11:24 PM on 08/03/2013
No when the work place is a Libertarian cult.
Horseman, pass by!
04:18 PM on 08/03/2013
Sounds like Amway for the urban Latte crowd.
Horseman, pass by!
04:16 PM on 08/03/2013
A book club that "culminates" with Atlas Shrugged? That about says it all.

As John Rogers wrote:

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
11:25 PM on 08/03/2013
I am soooooooooooooo copying that quote.
04:01 PM on 08/03/2013
All I have interpreted from this is that this business emphasizes strong values and dedication from its employees. Setting a standard for employees is how strong businesses grow. It might be somewhat more "soulful" than the general business practice, but it's obviously working!
Not a fan of the new format-
03:53 PM on 08/03/2013
Sounds like an article that I read about Teavana-a real nightmare.
To read is human; to comprehend divine
03:45 PM on 08/03/2013
Hilarious article, never heard of this joint before. Sounds like I could go 10 more lifetimes without it. What a bunch of fools.
In Blackest Night
08:53 PM on 08/03/2013
I haven't been to a Lululemon store, but there are some around here. But here's my question:

Why do you assume that what's she's saying is not only the truth, but indicative of every Lululemon store?

This is just one column by one woman.
10:58 PM on 08/03/2013
GREAT point. Talk about over-generalizing by the author.
To read is human; to comprehend divine
12:50 PM on 08/04/2013
Because I used to work in the business, not at this place.. but enough to know how the fitness industry is rife with cultism.
03:43 PM on 08/03/2013
Thank-you for writing about the cultish type culture promoted behind the doors of Lululemon. I am a Mother whose daughter briefly worked for Lululemon. That is until she witnessed the "mean-girl tudes" by which she was repulsed, and quickly gave her two weeks notice. Once she told me she gave her notice I sighed a sigh of relief because she would share with me about co-workers actions towards her and other employees, I knew there was something very strange and eerie about the majorities behavior. On a few occasions I urged her to get-out-of-there as fast as she could! My daughter is a graduate student of psychology so the fellow employees who were "die-hard Lululemon ladder climbers" made a point of making her feel as though she were not a part-of their "store cult, click etc." This is a dangerous game of Jim Jones/Jamestown type of behavior and throw-in the Brittany Norwood murder case, it's easy to recognize some weird wizardry going-on within this company walls along with it's practices and teachings which are teachings and practices that need to be carefully investigated. I thank you & commend you for writing such an insightful piece from an insider’s perspective which I'm sure will open the floodgates for hundreds of thousands of other women and men who have also had red flags pop up in their heads to have the courage and good sense to share their experiences as well.
manu ad ferram
07:34 PM on 08/03/2013
A dysfunctional corporate culture isn't what makes the product sell. The pants and other merchandise are selling because of quality and word of mouth. Unfortunately, the executives don't know any other way, so the mean-girl culture will continue until they are replaced.
03:16 PM on 08/03/2013
If you have to take and pass weird motivational courses and join groups to fit in at your place of employment, that's your clue sign something is sketchy about the place. Sales training, of course . Team building meetings a few times a year? Fine. But this place sounds like the Jonestown of Yoga Pants. Yikes.
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
09:11 PM on 08/03/2013
Yep. I worked in clothing retail briefly back in the late eighties in an upscale, very popular mall in a mid-upscale clothing store - trendy stuff at the time. Beyond a bit of company jargon and preferred sales approaches (they were right, their approach was casual but very successful), there was none of what is described in the article. The company treated your job like it was a job, not a lifestyle or a mode of being.
Agnostic Realist Tradevknaught
03:06 PM on 08/03/2013
And here I thought Lululemon was the nickname for that honey boo boo kid.
Natural Born Skeptic
Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it.
07:09 PM on 08/03/2013
I don't know if I'd want to buy anything with the word "lemon" in it...unless it was lemonade, lemon gelato, lemon pie...
03:05 PM on 08/03/2013
I've never heard of them.
05:45 PM on 08/03/2013
And your life is better for it.
07:31 PM on 08/03/2013
Tee hee, I did. They got in trouble for selling see-thru yoga pants without letting ladies know that they were buying see-thru pants. Guess somebody told a few of them! That's what I think when I see Lululemon. Management that can't even get their products right.
02:29 PM on 08/03/2013
The Landmark Forum--I'd never heard of it until my sister became a devotee...literally devoted to all that they did. I did some research on my own at the time, a few years ago, and came across the following article printed in Mother Jones magazine. I'm happy to say my sister doesn't attend their groups or seminars anymore--she doesn't even mention them, so I guess she's over it.
You can keep your faith. I'll go for knowledge.
10:07 PM on 08/03/2013
It's surprising that so many fall for this pseudo-therapy, but also not unusual, because many feel a need to belong to an exclusive "club" or movement of some kind. Same old cult strategy. Thanks for the good link.
Doug Sandlin
10:57 PM on 08/03/2013
That was interesting -- thanks for the link.

I teach yoga and meditation, and, ironically --- Landmark seems like the antithesis of everything actual yoga is about.
06:16 PM on 08/04/2013
Perhaps so, but the origins of yoga may not be as pure and enlightened as you might think. As a yoga teacher I think you'll want to check it out.
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02:22 PM on 08/03/2013
There are a lot of mentally unbalanced people fanatically pursuing the beautiful life.
02:17 PM on 08/03/2013
what is a "Kitchen Party"????
06:24 PM on 08/03/2013
You know when women have parties and they hang out in the kitchen...

Something about getting chatty with the customers and asking them about their goals, life, etc., to better sell them the product.
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02:14 PM on 08/03/2013
Have to say this is a good post. Sure puts a different light on shopping.
02:10 PM on 08/03/2013
Lululemon's is not just shunning plus size shoppers, they are shunning normal sized shoppers. The average woman's dress size in America is around 14. A person that wears a 10 or 12 is not plus size.

There's something creepy about their whole philosophy.
05:48 PM on 08/03/2013
Only an American would say a 10 or 12 is not a plus size. In 30 years, you'll be saying a 20 is not a plus size.
07:40 PM on 08/03/2013
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
02:46 AM on 08/04/2013
Well, it's a little more complicated than that. You do realize that sizing for women's clothes is in no way standardized and isn't based on an objective set of measurements, right? In your mind, was Marilyn Monroe a "plus size" woman?