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04:42 PM on 09/09/2013
It would be interesting to research Roman records for 100-200 ce to see if there's a reference to a rebellion, some new Roman offensive or some inter-tribal conflict there.

The brutality suggests some kind of rebellion, but I wasn't there at that time.

Who else might have made note of such a battle? Did scribes make records in Britain at that time? How about correspondence with Rome?

Cool to research, as I'm sure they will.
08:46 AM on 09/10/2013
There was considerable military activity in Britannia in those centuries, particularly in the north, however. The commemoration of these campaigns on contemporary Roman coins can be seen at http://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=3&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=1&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=britannia+rome&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1
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09:57 AM on 09/10/2013
Thank you. Another piece of the puzzle. You don't get much detail from coins, but I gather they do confirm that certain events really took place, which, I admit, is a lot.
I can't recall any historian trying to make the case that commemorative coins were struck to falsely note an event that never happened. I suspect the Romans understood propaganda as well as anyone, but I tend to think coinage is one of the most reliable ways to verify the past. If I'm wrong, let me know, of course, so I don't appear entirely dim forever. Again, thank you.
04:42 PM on 09/09/2013
I doubt very much if this was done by Romans or their auxilleries, certainly not by Caesar, he never made it that far West. There was a lot of civil war in Britton between Caesar and the conquest under Claudius. I remember reading somewhere that warriors in some tribes liked to cover their chariots with the skins of people they had killed.
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05:38 PM on 09/09/2013
They sound like a pleasant group to have over for tea. :)
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Quotidien
so there's that....
04:39 PM on 09/09/2013
So uncivilized !!
04:22 PM on 09/09/2013
I guess we aren't going to be following National Geographic to the Cambodian killing fields for a more modern version of this?
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Ramona Jackson
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05:29 PM on 09/09/2013
That issue has already been published in full color.
05:39 PM on 09/09/2013
Good lord... Are we a nation of rubberneckers or what? One thing we rarely hear about is how "communist" Viet Nam actually put an end to these clowns by invading them. 
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Stephen Stafford
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04:20 PM on 09/09/2013
What is this defleshing? Is it like a full body scalping?

Was it not enough to slaughter? Did they have to skin them, too?
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gavrielle
06:20 PM on 09/09/2013
Defleshing is exactly what it sounds like, but is not the same as skinning. The meat was removed from the bones, either scraped or boiled. Probably as part of a ritualized belief relating the afterlife. As in, "if my enemy is all chopped up, he can't lift an arm to strike me down" and/or "if he has no flesh he can have no surcease from pain and hunger for all eternity." As for who "they" might have been, I seriously doubt Romans did the deed. Sounds more like a tribal blood feud come home to roost.
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Stephen Stafford
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08:02 PM on 09/09/2013
Not sure if I thanked you, so thank you for that explanation. That was well beyond what I had imagined. Wow.

Glad times have changed, LOL.
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SusanElizabeth1949
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07:59 AM on 09/10/2013
There are groups, even into modern times who practice a tradition of removing all the flesh from the deceased before burial -- and I'd guess that it is a practice that goes to prehistoric times.
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04:19 PM on 09/09/2013
On a site that's THAT old, how do archaeologists know the bodies were "defleshed' ? In all these years, wouldn't the flesh have just rotted away?
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RuthieBabe
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04:43 PM on 09/09/2013
Blade scratches on the bones. Those look a lot different than marks made by animals gnawing the bones.
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Dani09
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04:44 PM on 09/09/2013
Perhaps marks and nicks on the bones caused by the de-fleshing tools/blades? I'm just guessing. (I've watched too many episodes of Bones...)
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04:14 PM on 09/09/2013
Roman legions always had auxilliaries to do their dirty work. It wouldn't have been unusual for them to enlist Celts, especially as cavalry as Romans were always particularly weak in that field.

Pick some thugs from a tribe that had always been at odds with the Ham Hill lot and you have a massacre. It's happening today... just look at Syria.
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DMcD
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04:57 PM on 09/09/2013
Most likely the case...
just saw a history documentary that mentioned
Celt mercenaries enlisted by Romans in Old England
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Counterglow
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05:22 PM on 09/09/2013
Excellent analysis!
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Alicia Kramer
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04:14 PM on 09/09/2013
You would think we would be beyond this behavior, but we are not....at least those that are controlling things still beat the drums of war and annihilation.
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Ramona Jackson
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05:32 PM on 09/09/2013
Humans = very nasty animals.
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Alicia Kramer
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05:53 PM on 09/09/2013
Sadly, yes!
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saunee300
01:18 PM on 09/11/2013
What would some of you suggest we do when viably threatened?! So you would rather we NOT ward off another 9/11? 3,000 people dead?........many of you live in la la land! My father fought in WW2 and helped liberate the camps... if we had not intervened Hitler may have tried to infiltrate the American continent as well, once he'd had all of Europe conquered.
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Jen Celli
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03:58 PM on 09/09/2013
Is this an area that could have been over-run by Vikings? Makes one wonder. They were brutal and would pillage entire villages and murder the inhabitants. It doesn't seem a stretch that they would do something as vicious as this. On the other hand, a marauding band of Celts would also be worth considering. However it does shake out, it will be interesting to follow the dig.
WonderYman
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04:11 PM on 09/09/2013
The Viking era starts around yr. 900 - some 700 years later.

And no, the Vikings were not that vicious.

Actually they were quite civilized - and most of their travels were trading expeditions, i.e. expeditions down the Russian rivers to the Black Sea and on to Constantinople - the present Istanbul.
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04:13 PM on 09/09/2013
Except that there were no vikings in the third century ce. There were no invading Romans in the third century ce. either; Britain was at that time a Roman province. I wonder what this article is talking about.
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Jen Celli
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04:54 PM on 09/09/2013
Quite right.  For some reason I have 1200 years stuck in my head.  Does seem like a thing that doesn't fit though.
03:58 PM on 09/09/2013
I believe it had to be aliens, looking to stock up the space fridge for a long voyage back to venus.
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Alicia Kramer
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04:10 PM on 09/09/2013
lol
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waterdragon8
face..the spinal frontier! hydra en limnos....
04:23 PM on 09/09/2013
To Serve Man
03:53 PM on 09/09/2013
"Iron Age Massacre"
It's been 1800 years since - not enough for humanity to become more humane. NOT A LOT has changed, and examples are legion.
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Gregj
03:38 PM on 09/09/2013
Another case of stand your ground a barbaric law.
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03:36 PM on 09/09/2013
sounds more like Hamburger Hill...