Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page:  « First  ‹ Previous  3 4 5 6 7  Next ›  Last »  (9 total)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
bioluminescence
01:32 PM on 01/16/2010
It's very difficult to win the hearts and minds of people by dropping bombs on them.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:22 PM on 01/16/2010
I predicted this would happen when Obama was elected. I knew that most "middle of the road" Democrats weren't really anti-war, just anti-Republican, and they would cheer at the same cr@p done by Bu$h, if it was carried out by their guy. So, now in America we have all centrist Democrats (i.e. the bulk of the party) cheering for the wars and, of course, the Republicans still getting excited about every non-Christian, non-white foreigner getting kiIIed by their stormtroopers. It's a win-win situation for the military industrial complex...

Of course the only way for intelligent Americans to fight all this insanity is to create a third party. Possibly even a fourth one, considering many Libertarians are also anti-war (Ron Paul etc.)
01:29 PM on 01/16/2010
I second this as well, Amanda. To be pro war is to be anti human. Those here who justify it are merely tools of the system. What we are doing, as the article points out--9 years of failure--has not worked, will not work. The money spent on the war machine could have rebuilt this tiny country of 4+ million people into a modern self governing oasis a dozen times over.
photo
wyldthings
as a young man I said I'd never get old an didn'
01:37 PM on 01/16/2010
Amandabc, Notice that Hatti Is in real trouble. A disaster beyond the worst. I also want you to notice who's there within hours and days. Yes the U.S military not to kill but to save lives. We have a Carrier there, We have a hospital ship on the way there, we have the 82nd airborne with water purification units being set up for the people. I notice no Canadian Vessels there I'm sure there will be a generous amount donated by the Canadian people but you hate for the U.S is not warranted and keep the hate to yourself.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:47 PM on 01/16/2010
That's because you don't live in a free country and you take everything your government says at face value. And your government now wants you to believe that only Americans are helping out the Haitians...

"Immediately after the earthquake, Canada dispatched a reconnaissance group from the military's Disaster Assistance Response Team (DART). Huge C-17 aircraft brought emergency supplies, search and rescue personnel and helicopters. Two Canadian warships are on their way to Haiti with aid and the Government of Canada has pledged to match contributions from individual Canadians up to $50 million."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/editorials/help-haiti-today-and-tomorrow-81862267.html
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Coinyer101
King of Doobiestan
01:09 PM on 01/16/2010
Stoopid wars......,
01:13 PM on 01/16/2010
Seconded! And not just stupid, but evil, for the lives they destroy and the men who foment them in the name of profit.
01:20 PM on 01/16/2010
Coin, this seems hung up, so I'll use the safe spellings too--

Seconded! And not just stoooopid, but eeeevil, for the lives they destroy and the men who foment them in the name of profit.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Rudderman
GOP: All fringe, no carpet.
01:05 PM on 01/16/2010
On the subject of warfare, I read a terrific book recently titled, "Serenade to the Big Bird" by Bert Stiles.
1st Lieutenant Stiles was a copilot in B-17’s during WWII who somehow survived an astounding 35 missions. Rather than going stateside afterwards, he elected to continue flying P-51’s over Germany.
Bert died at the age of 23 while chasing a German fighter but left behind one of the most perceptive and poetic books ever penned about war; a brilliant tribute to living rather than just a log of all the dying.
His insight into democracy, education and life in America and the world is timeless. I can’t recommend it highly enough.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Chipher
prosaic quotidian
03:25 PM on 01/16/2010
...Thx, I know a WW2 vet who would like this book. Here: http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:04 PM on 01/16/2010
Dienekes42
I don't have to prove anything to you and I'm definitely not about to put ANYTHING personal online. If you don't want to believe me that's fine. Its a love hate relationship. Obviously I don't like the horrors associated with war. That said, there's something to be said for the camaraderie and driving purpose in combat. Read "Storm of Steel" by Ernst Junger. Great book from someone who in no way regretted his time in the trenches. His work is not an anomaly.

-----------------------
When you start presenting an argument with "I am a soldier", you are asking others to accept your argument based on your "authority" on the subject. Since you are on an anonymous blog, your authority cannot be verified. Hence, your argument must be discarded as fallacious. The fallacy is formally known as "Argument by Anonymous Authority".

Your purpose seems to be to glorify war. You are not the first or the last one who has done that, but you are doing a particularly poor job at presenting your case.

The "camaraderie and driving purpose" that you speak of is found in all team sports, which involve no k!lling. A much more noble way of experiencing that "camaraderie and driving purpose" is in the pursuit of peace or of saving lives.

You can be certain that the teams currently in Haiti, risking their own lives to save the lives of others, are experiencing the camaraderie and driving purpose you advocate achieving by k!lling others.
.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:08 PM on 01/16/2010
Soldiers are considered "authorities" only in militaristic countries. But I know you're very proud of that.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:31 PM on 01/16/2010
I am disappointed but not surprised by your lack of comprehension of my post.
Also, despite your continuing obsession with me, you have no basis whatsoever to know what I am proud of. :-)
02:06 PM on 01/16/2010
Soldiers are the finest citizens of America. They're the only ones still willing to fight and die for this country. The men and women returning from combat in Iraq and Afghanistan have explored regions of their soul and experienced things that you will NEVER come close to. You can sit around and whine on a blog, but you will never experience life to the extent that they have. I'll take the opinion of my fellow soldiers over yours any day.
01:12 PM on 01/16/2010
I notice you've posted nearly 80,000 times on hp, alone. So, here are your words: consider them--

""you are asking others to accept your argument based on your "authority" on the subject. Since you are on an anonymous blog, your authority cannot be verified. Hence, your argument must be discarded as fallacious. The fallacy is formally known as "Argument by Anonymous Authority". ""
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:35 PM on 01/16/2010
That's good.
Now show me an argument that I have presented which is based on my claimed authority. :-)

You must have misunderstood what I said above. Of course you can present arguments. But, on an anonymous blog, your argument cannot be accepted as valid based on your claimed authority, because your authority cannot be verified.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Okieborn
Equal Rights For All !
12:38 PM on 01/16/2010
First and foremost McChrystal should not have been chosen to lead anything or anyone !!
He lies and covers up the death of Private Tillman , and I just don't care for liars !!
I have no respect for this man !!
12:35 PM on 01/16/2010
oh them? who really cares, really?
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
megacephalus
12:29 PM on 01/16/2010
one would think that the message of 'hanging out' with one's cousin, brother, or... who's AQ is a dangerous idea... might penetrate the consciousness of the 'Ganis...
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
archeDeWashington
12:20 PM on 01/16/2010
Same as in DRC the casualty is so high

www.okongo.org
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:14 PM on 01/16/2010
Peace lovers are more than sloganeers. To be for peace is more than saying, “Peace is good” and “War is bad”. No one, not even those waging unnecessary wars would disagree with that.
Sloganeering is no substitute for a logical approach to the objective of peace. And the first step is to get informed.

Don’t believe our government. Go read international papers. Read local journalists, good ones, posting from Afghanistan/Pakistan. A good place is atimes.com (HP blocks actual links). If that is not enough, go visit the place. See for yourself. Visiting Pakistan is not a big problem.

The facts, as best as I can determine are the following. Immediate withdrawal would likely lead to chaos, with Tal-iban types coming to power in Pakistan and their nukes. That would not be in the interest of peace. Al Qaeda would view and use it to recruit more, claiming that just as they defeated the Soviets, U.S. has been defeated. Growth of al Qaeda is not conducive to peace. They are not for peace. These are not clichés. These are facts.

U.S. is to be blamed for much that has happened. There were reasons (but not justification) for 9 1 1.
But, we are where we are. We need to deal with it in the interest of peace and security from here on.
Given the facts and the situation we are in, in my view, the President has adopted the most logical approach possible.
12:22 PM on 01/16/2010
"War is bad." I disagree with that. I'm a soldier and I wouldn't want to live in a world without war. There's a joy that can be experienced in combat that surpasses all other human emotions. Also, its imperative for a nation to maintain an aggressive vigor. Great thinkers from Thucydides to Clausewitz have said as much. Periodic warfare accomplishes this. Furthermore, periodic warfare is absolutely necessary for the military to keep innovating and remaining the finest force on the planet. War is never going to go away and I'm thankful for that. Life would be quite boring with out it.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:26 PM on 01/16/2010
Prove that you are a soldier.
I know and interact with lots of soldiers and not one has ever told me that he/she likes war.

So, my guess is that you are either a satirist or a mentally s!ck person.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Rudderman
GOP: All fringe, no carpet.
12:49 PM on 01/16/2010
My dad was a B-17 pilot in WWII. He rarely spoke about his experience and when he did, he made it clear that war really is hell. I realize there are people out there who, as Patton said, “Love the sting of battle”. My dad was not among them.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
12:06 PM on 01/16/2010
Obama will be a one term President, because he played in the hands of the republicans to push for the Surge in Afghanistan. This reality will be known soon when a Republican wins the elections and takes Kennedy's senate seat.

As liberal that I am, I will vote this time for the Green Party
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:23 PM on 01/16/2010
He proposed increasing the number of troops during the campaign. Was that because Republicans pushed him?

How come you voted for him (if you did) based on what he said during the campaign?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
naschkatze
A free man creates himself.
01:20 PM on 01/16/2010
We (who voted for Obama and indeed did more than that) had our heads turned by all the other promises he made. Now you and your crowd are proud as banty roosters that Afghanistan is the one promise Obama made and kept his word on. He has given you a scrap you can point to with pride.
photo
StillIRise
The past, present and future are one
12:24 PM on 01/16/2010
Excellent choice ...

We all know that voting for a party that can't win is far more important than winning ...

And we all know that making a statement with our vote is much more meaningful than making sure that our vote serves to address the immediate and future concerns of our nation ...

And of course we know that when the President plays into the hands of the Republicans, we can definitely make a point with our vote by playing into the hands of the Republcians ourselves ...

And then we can blame the President if a Republican wins the elections and takes Kennedy's seat - as if it's because of the surge in Afghanistan that a Republican could win the election in take Kennedy's seat - but even if the logic doesn't quite add up, we can still feel good about ourselves and say things like, "As liberal that I am, I will vote this time for the Green Party."

Let me say this: Even if the greenest, most liberal candidate were to somehow miraculously someday win the presidency, he too would be faced with the same reality and the same political landscape that President Obama is faced with, and he too would be forced to make many of the same decisions! Who would you vote for then???
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
12:04 PM on 01/16/2010
Obama will be a one term President, because he played in the hands of the republicans to push for the Surge in Afghanistan. This reality will be known soon when a Republican win the electiosn and taks Kennedy's senate seat.

As liberal that I am, I will vote this time from the Green Party.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Rudderman
GOP: All fringe, no carpet.
11:54 AM on 01/16/2010
Once again, here we are fighting an unwinnable war against a ruthless, deadly, virtually invisible enemy. As we’ve seen elsewhere, terrorist groups have no qualms about using human shields and killing anyone if it will appear that Americans were responsible.
If we’re there to win a war along with the hearts and minds of the citizens, it seems clear, we are losing on all fronts. Our soldiers deserve far better.
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
11:31 AM on 01/16/2010
I don't like that we're still there. Not one bit. I want us out of Afghanistan as soon as possible.

But findings like the one cited in the article are very likely the reason that Obama felt he had no option other than to increase troop strength in order to fight and hopefully defeat the Taliban.

I'm not happy about the decision. But I know that he isn't either.

I stand behind President Obama.
12:03 PM on 01/16/2010
Obama had a unique opportunity to change the course of the American obsession to be cops to the world. He flinched and he will be remembered for the huge failure, in Afghanistan, that was not of his own instigation.
Obama has fallen beneath the weighty wheels of the institution of the American presidency.
12:58 PM on 01/16/2010
very well said.

Even us outside the USA thought this is a chance of a lifetime to stop policing the world. Obama seemed like the guy who "had got it". This was the main reason he went down so well internationally. Now after a year we see the same old, same old. Better sold and nicer wrapped than under Bush but not really different. I guess the M.I.C. is just to powerful.
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
10:53 PM on 01/16/2010
"Obama had a unique opportunity to change the course of the American obsession to be cops to the world."
___________________________________________________

Actually, no he didn't.

Unless you're OK with the idea of abandoning those innocents in Afghanistan who were counting on us to get rid of the Taliban.
The women? The children?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
opines
11:27 AM on 01/16/2010
The book on defeating 'insurgencies' that our military subscribes to requires harsh policies (Abu Ghreib/Bagram), making clear to the insurgents that we have the will to remain as long as necessary to establish a suitable puppet and a willingness to bomb civilians if a high valued suspect is in the area.

The claim by Obama in his Nobel acceptance speech that the Afghan War is a 'just' war is bogus. Our invasion of that country following 9/11 in order to dismantle Al Qaeda bases and hunt for Osama was a proportionate (just) response to the attack we were seeking to avenge. But with the bases removed and Osama no longer there, our eight year and counting occupation lacks proportionality, is no longer 'just', just military imperialist barbarity.

Our claim that we are there to 'protect' the Afghanis is in the category of mobster protection rackets.

"I should like to be able to love my country and still love justice." Albert Camus