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RitaS
01:13 AM on 04/07/2010
Just another example of the fed/state deregulation of business' for the benefit of the company, workers be d*mned.......

Why is it so wrong to have laws/regulations for the people who do the work in this Country verses those who just push papers & a sole concern of profits at all costs???
01:03 AM on 04/07/2010
Don Blankenship, the CEO, should be h@nged in public. The guy's out-of-control greed has endangered the life of too many people.
11:00 AM on 04/07/2010
co-sign.
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jer9848
Bleeding heart lib.
12:53 AM on 04/07/2010
All mines should be closed until they can prove they are safe.And given maximum fines if they are not.
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07:37 AM on 04/07/2010
As long as we have business controlling government instead of government controlling business we are going to have these kinds of problems over and over again. This mine has 500 citations in 2009 and paid less than $900,000 in fines. That is less than $2,000 an infraction.
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jer9848
Bleeding heart lib.
08:07 PM on 04/07/2010
Agreed.May need to double the fines till they feel it in their pocketbooks.
12:23 AM on 04/07/2010
There is a pattern here...The company never folllowed regualtions and this happens..Wallstreet was deregulated and what happened...The right says keep govt away from our lives..part of govt job is to regulate to avoid incidences like wallstreet and mine catastrophies...teabbaggers u listening..why do u always go against your own interests but complain when incidiences like wallstreet and mine catastrophies happen?
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
07:44 AM on 04/07/2010
That should be obvious, if they had any brains they wouldn't be teabaggers in the first place! The mine owners are the same as the Health Insurance company executives. The almighty dollar is all important and casualties are expected and accepted by these capitalist pigs. We need laws that make Corporate executive criminally responsible for their actions. The Stupid branch of the Supreme Court says Corporations have the same rights as people so lets hold them responsible for their actions.
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12:21 AM on 04/07/2010
Instead of the media repeating over and over about this Mine and it's 57 citations,
why not do a public service and tell us what "other mines" in the U.S. have that many citations????
Otherwise, it's just like Monday night quarterbacking and for NO good reason or outcome.
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02:47 AM on 04/07/2010
Excellent point. Agreed, and fanned.
04:59 AM on 04/07/2010
What you're asking would require some major investigative journalism on the part of the mainstream corporate media, and it's unlikely to happen. But I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that some environmental organizations have conducted or are conducting investigations. You can glean some information from the MSHA website (www.msha.gov.), but it's probably not broken down in the way you would like.

If you go to this MSHA page - http://www.msha.gov/stats/statistics.htm#citations - and click on "Number of Penalties Assessed and Percent Contested - January 2007 - January 2010" you will find some graphs and charts in pdf form that present some alarming statistics.
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12:19 AM on 04/07/2010
Profit over Safety! Time for ALL Coal Mines to be shutdown like Utah's. NOW will people listen to the potential of CLEAN COAL?
02:42 AM on 04/07/2010
There is no such thing as "clean coal" -- coal is pure carbon, and burning means reacting with oxygen in the air to produce carbon dioxide, the main "greenhouse" gas but not the only one. Methane is another. "Clean coal" is propaganda, dirty propaganda. Yes, Massey is all profit and zero safety -- this isn't their only mine of tragedy. They have a long history of horror -- "only" 12 died in their Sago mine collapse.
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05:20 AM on 04/07/2010
RegDame do you think Atty Gen. Holder will step in and help the families of West Virginia? If not, who? Someone needs to rein Blankenship in.
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07:39 AM on 04/07/2010
“No one will say this who works at that mine, but everyone knows that it has been dangerous for years,” said Andrew Tyler, 22, an electrician who worked on the wiring for the coal conveyer belt as a subcontractor at the mine two years ago.

Mr. Tyler said workers had regularly been told to work 12-hour shifts when eight hours is the industry standard. He also said that live wires had been left exposed and that an accumulation of coal dust and methane was routinely ignored.

“I’m willing to go on record because I am a subcontractor who doesn’t depend on Massey for my life,” Mr. Tyler said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/us/07westvirginia.html?hp=&pagewanted=all
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bastonal
12:13 AM on 04/07/2010
It cost corporations a lot of money to maintain government regulations for safety - Money that could be profit for the corporations instead.

Why should corporations be regulated by government watchdogs, when it should be up to the corporations if they chose to spend money on worker safety and OSHA.

Workers are a dime a dozen, It cost plenty for corporations to spend their profits on what the government and worker protesters for stronger saftey regulations for workers, along with sick pay & health care...that's something the corporation must decide....

Just let the corporations function without regulations and they will do the right thing, and everyone will make some money - You know it will all trickle down at some point, maybe unless the corporations need to make more profits and who could blame them....Greed is good!

Ronald Regan & every republicans ideology = Corporations over peoples needs (with our tax dollars).!
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12:25 AM on 04/07/2010
I guess human lives have little value to the Coal Mine owners!
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socalcde
My micro-bio is empty.
12:04 AM on 04/07/2010
All for clean coal, right?
11:52 PM on 04/06/2010
This situation perfectly fits Upton Sinclair's definition of fascism: capitalism plus murder.
11:51 PM on 04/06/2010
Theodore Roosevelt:
"We grudge no man a fortune which represents his own power and sagacity, when exercised with entire regard to the welfare of his fellows. Again, comrades over there, take the lesson from your own experience. Not only did you not grudge, but you gloried in the promotion of the great generals who gained their promotion by leading the army to victory. So it is with us. We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used. It is not even enough that it should have gained without doing damage to the community. We should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community. This, I know, implies a policy of a far more active governmental interference with social and economic conditions in this country than we have yet had, but I think we have got to face the fact that such an increase in governmental control is now necessary."

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=501
11:49 PM on 04/06/2010
Corruption in this business is what needed to be cleaned up. Everything else would follow, including safety for the workers. So, the first order of business is to throw the CEO and his collaborators in jail and throw the key away. Let them d i e rotten in the darkness of their own creation.
11:42 PM on 04/06/2010
The mining company must answer to the victims about their repeated safety violations. This kind of arrogance can only be seen in people like D ick Cheney, who would always side with the company at the expense of the life and safety of the workers.
11:40 PM on 04/06/2010
Seriously, it just keeps keepin' on. Money rules, not precious human (or animal) lives. People aren't even shamed into caring anymore.
11:22 PM on 04/06/2010
Two things:
1. This is not an accident, but the flagrant neglect of management to follow safety rules. Suprisingly, even previous violations that resulted in substantial financial fines did not seem to effect any change in company safety.....Blankenship should be terminated immediately...

2. this is what happens when bullies become CEOs.....they use their own money to install a judge, then circumvent the complaint process. Bully CEOs like this use many tactics to be "competitive" in business, when what they do is clearly unethical and endangers the lives of their workers. These kinds of bullies exist in offices and white collar jobs as well, their effects are just more hidden - they don't result in traumatic injury, but stress related health problems.
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MrGovtCheese
We don need no stink'n badges ...
11:19 PM on 04/06/2010
Why can't they harvest all that methane gas and coal dust for other uses?
11:34 PM on 04/06/2010
Methane it is possible to drill ahead and remove it. However it is not always possible because of surface and resource rights.

Coal dust is generated during shearing on the longwall, it should be suppressed using some sort of system. Whether they had one installed or not I am not sure.
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08:23 AM on 04/07/2010
in this type of mining, the shearer (which is a rotating cutter shaped like a wheel) is equipped with multiple water jets. water is constantly sprayed onto the coal as it is being cut off of the face in order to minimize the amount of coal dust in the air.