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02:11 PM on 04/14/2010
Sounds a lot like Codes Alimentarius talk. Just more fearmongering to get Americans to turn away from their vitamins, herbs and alternative healing/health care, and leave everything to the AMA and pharmaceutical drugs (which we all know do no harm).
02:25 PM on 04/14/2010
edit for spelling: codex, not codes.
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03:06 PM on 04/14/2010
Um, the doctor is very interested in "Juice Plus".
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03:48 PM on 04/14/2010
Actually, "big pharma" owns many of the vitamin companies through subsidiaries and they are not regulated by the FDA so it is easier for them to give you crap that doesn't work in the form of "supplements". When the bottle says it contains X milligrams of Y, there is no one testing if that is true and we all know how well companies can be trusted to regulate themselves. The best thing you can do for your health is exercise and eat well.
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MintysMom
02:10 PM on 04/14/2010
There are also some ingredients in multivitamins that by themselves are known to cause cancer, like folate.
02:54 PM on 04/30/2010
If you don't mind me asking, what sources cite a causal role for folate in cancer? Folate depletetion has often been linked to cancer, but I have never heard researchers accuse it of being a carcinogen itself.
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MintysMom
03:50 PM on 04/30/2010
Supplementation of folate has been linked to cancer. In fact certain populations, such as prostate cancer patients should not take folate. I tried to educate myself about this because my kitty Minty needed a bit of broad spectrum B vitamin supplementation. Even though it is a cat and not a human, my small bit of research showed that there was enough evidence to be concerned in humans.

There is this study: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AG5NU20091117

What I am gleaning is that it is supplementation that may lead to cancer, but that getting this vital nutrient in the diet is the safest way.
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Nosybear
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02:02 PM on 04/14/2010
Has the study been repeated? In most, there is a 5% chance the results occur simply by chance. And has a causal link been established? It may be other factors, women taking multivitamins may not eat as much fiber or may eat worse foods, not the multivitamin. In short, before broadcasting this crap based on a single survey of a limited population, try to make sure the science is sound. One whacko publishing falsified data on vaccines and autism has resulted in hundreds of unnecessary cases of measles because people are, incorrectly, afraid vaccinating their children will make them autistic.

There's nothing more dangerous than a journalist armed with a statistic they don't understand.
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Halsey
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01:44 PM on 04/14/2010
and sometimes..you just wake up with a 4 cm tumor..literally overnight.... cancer does NOT care..equal opportunity for all...
02:54 PM on 04/14/2010
So true - I woke up with a 1.2 cm triple neg breast tumor (totally unpalpable) after 30 straight years of totally clean mammos and no cancer at all in either side of family and I didn't even take vitamins!!!
01:36 PM on 04/14/2010
Most vitamins are made by the drug companies. At least they own most vitamin companies. Avoid them like death, as they are likely synthetic and harmful. Buy quality, whole food, raw supplements. If you're using a $10 multivitamin you're using the wrong kind. If you don't spend around $20-$40 a month for the multivitamin, then you may be using the wrong kind.

Buy encapsulated sea vegetables. they contain all minerals and nutrients required by the body. Safer and more healthful.
01:16 PM on 04/14/2010
Geeeez! It's starting to sound like a tea party in here. Look people, I realize there is a lot of confusing information out there. I know that big pharma and big food don't always have your best interests in mind, but here is a simple solution. Don't smoke, try to eat right, keep your weight down and get some damn exercise!

Do a little research into what supplements are good for you, and which are questionable. If you are going to take anything, stick to the ones with clinical proof - not just some multi, where everything is mixed together. OR, don't take any supplements at all. It may not be a huge difference either way.
01:07 PM on 04/14/2010
This makes me want to take multi vitamins, big pharma will do anything to promote their crap.
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03:39 PM on 04/14/2010
There is very little evidence that vitamin supplements (even quality ones) have much impact on health, unless a person was already significantly deficient in that nutrient. The body does not handle supplements as well as it is able to get nutrients from healthy foods. The vast majority of vitamins are a waste of money.
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vippy
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12:51 PM on 04/14/2010
Watch out for more and more of these types of articles. Canada already prevented vitamins being sold over the counter. They now have to apply for licenses and they are dragging their feet on this.
McCain has a bill in congress similar to it. Big Pharma wants to sell their crappy medicine with all the bad side effects and they don't want you to be healthy and take preventive care, cuts into their profit margin. I have taken vitamins for 40 years now and have never been sick, knock on wood, not even a cold, have stamina and feel like the energizer bunny. Heard that taking Omega 3 capsules will prevent breast cancer. Maybe so or not, who knows. Since our food is lacking on nutrition I rather stick with vitamins to make up the void. Of course, there is a science behind it all.
02:58 PM on 04/14/2010
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I buy vitamins in Canada right off the supermarket shelf.
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04:45 PM on 04/14/2010
I believe "vippy" is referring to Bill C-6 which regulates consumer products (Consumer Protection Act) which the Canadian government attempted to pass through previously by bills of different names Bill C-51 and Bill C-52 (the latter two which did not go through).

I consider myself on top of things yet I only recently learned of the Canadian government's attempt to control the sale/use of products such as vitamins under the guise of "consumer protection". It seems that there has been no media coverage on these bills all the better for the government to sneakily try to pass the bills through.

There is more in depth information on this issue on the internet provided by a constitutional lawyer named Shawn Buckley.
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04:59 PM on 04/14/2010
Good points.
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12:45 PM on 04/14/2010
It appears that since the inception of oral contraceptives, that there has been an increase in breast cancer in woman wordwide.

Has there ever been a study that examined the relationship between the use of oral contraceptives and cancer of the breast?

Yes, there have been studies that have noted a significant relationship between the use of oral contraceptives and breast cancer.
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01:03 PM on 04/14/2010
"worldwide" is what I meant to type
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12:43 PM on 04/14/2010
I wonder if they adjusted for city vs. rural living? City dwellers are more exposed to toxic substances (like bromine, which is associated with breast cancer). And my personal guess is that city dwellers are probably more likely to take multivitamins.
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ddanimal
12:41 PM on 04/14/2010
What kinds of multivitamins were these people taking?

The multivitamins most people take (Centrum and other commercial brands) are GARBAGE. They contain synthetic vitamin E, oxidized "anti" oxidants and forms of other nutrients that are inferior or even toxic.
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kgay
12:35 PM on 04/14/2010
I took multivitamins for 25 years.One of the ingredients in most multi's is copper. Taking estrogen for HRT and also taking copper can cause copper build-up in the body. It deposits in the brain, liver, and reproductive organs and can cause mental and physical problems. It's hard to find multiples without copper, but they're out there.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
12:46 PM on 04/14/2010
Copper feeds the eyes though among with other things. But too much copper won't let you sleep either.
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kgay
01:21 PM on 04/14/2010
Zinc and manganese can balance copper and prevent a build-up
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12:18 PM on 04/14/2010
It seems like every week or so now, there's always some study coming out saying certain foods may cause cancer (and yes, I've even read about some regarding organic foods), or some medications or vitamins may be unhealthy that could lead to cancer. It's like the list keeps getting longer each time. Then there's the occasion when some other study comes out countering previous reports by stating these foods/vitamins/medications are good for you. After that you don't know what to believe anymore. Insane.

The only thing I try to do right is eat balanced meals, continue my routine walking and stretching exercises, that's helping me a great deal since I have genetic high blood pressure from both sides of my family as well as maintaining a healthy weight, and take a couple of vitamins a day.

All I have to say is I really wish there would be a cure for all types of cancer soon.
12:12 PM on 04/14/2010
This is further evidence that doctors are not qualified as nutritionists.

I'm putting my faith in avoiding GMOs and "conventionally grown foods which the doctor's article implicitly advocates through omission.
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chaya
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11:40 AM on 04/14/2010
It is difficult to use statistics in this way without running afoul of complicating factors.

For instance, I believe a study would find that often women take multivitamins because they are working incredibly hard and find haven't time to shop for and prepare adequate, nutritious meals. The overly busy lifestyle also makes it hard for them to exercise. Hormone replacement therapy? That's something doctors push you to do if you don't have time for exercise.

So what is causing the breast cancer? Multivitamins? Or stress and lack of rest? Or lack of exercise? Or the inadequate diet? Or pollutants encountered in commuting and in the workplace? Or, indeed, the hormone replacement therapy?

I could go on. The reason could be as simple as a lack of fiber in the diet.

It's too little to go on.
12:34 PM on 04/14/2010
The need to be increasingly skinnier and anorexic looking causes many women not to eat. Working hard seems like a bit of a copout. HRTs. Genetics. Downwind from atomic explosion trials...all those things. But you can live a healthy life, eat correctly, take care of yourself in all ways possible and still develop breast cancer. I am just tired of reading evrey research find. Half os which are not really proven by anything.