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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
12:26 AM on 06/11/2010
"What kind of country elects 47 senators who deny basic science?"

The kind that respects money above all things. Campaign finance reform. Publicly funded campaigns will go a long way to fix this sort of dangerous nonsense.

America being a large important nation has a RESPONSIBILITY to the rest of the world to run itself properly. If America were to further run itself haphazardly at the bequest of monied influencers and vote down such measures imagine the damage to the world that can occur.

Ask the Gulf coast states what damage can be done. Ask Iraq.
12:09 AM on 06/11/2010
It is not that they deny basic science; it is more that they approve of the payments they receive from oil and coal companies.
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lordgamble
ATWWWDTG And They Wonder Why We Don't Trust Gov'
12:12 AM on 06/11/2010
Obama received the single largest donation to a politicain ever given by BP in his 2008 campaign. You are right, BP has bought the politicians.
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meglon978
Beware of gifts bearing Greeks.
05:41 AM on 06/11/2010
BP wouldn't have been able to give a donation to him as it's a corporation, and a foreign holding.
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Democommon Sense
06:27 AM on 06/11/2010
So what your saying your not a fan of science or fact?
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OleProfessor
"Ours is not a system based upon trust"
11:59 PM on 06/10/2010
America's in Retrograde..!
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lordgamble
ATWWWDTG And They Wonder Why We Don't Trust Gov'
11:51 PM on 06/10/2010
"What kind of country elects 47 senators who deny basic science?" The real question is what kind of country elects 53 senators that use junk science as an excuse increase taxes drastically and in so doing strangle what little is left of our economy?
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OleProfessor
"Ours is not a system based upon trust"
12:00 AM on 06/11/2010
Those 47 are among the ones that destroyed our economy...Deregulation etc...
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lordgamble
ATWWWDTG And They Wonder Why We Don't Trust Gov'
12:09 AM on 06/11/2010
Deregulation did not destroy the economy. Gov't policy failure to increase our own energy production capacity to meet our needs has been and is today strangling our economy. Barney Frank, Fanny and Freddie Mac destroyed the housing makert. And Gov't excessive spending has staarved the private sector of the necessary funds to grow the economy. I know that's too much for you to comprehend as it isn't part of your propaganda notesheet.
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meglon978
Beware of gifts bearing Greeks.
05:42 AM on 06/11/2010
So you're saying.. you don't know what science is. got it.
11:47 PM on 06/10/2010
Its like an analogy I heard where the environment is a car heading towards a cliff at 100 miles per hour while the senators inside the car are arguing whether they should slow down to 90 or 80 miles an hour.
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Titanshanks
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12:06 AM on 06/11/2010
Well put.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
11:45 PM on 06/10/2010
Well, there are people in this country who elected Vitter, DeMint, McConnell, Inhofe and McCain.
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DJBrunner
Question authority & hold them accountable.
09:06 AM on 06/11/2010
Mind if I add Kyle, Coburn, Cornyn, Bunting & Graham? That completely covers Arizona, Oklahoma, Kentucky, South Carolina & half of Texas. It is sickening that almost 1/10 of the Senate is represented by this bunch...we're doomed.
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Nosybear
Liar, damn liar, statistician and brewer
11:27 PM on 06/10/2010
It occurred to me while reading these comments, the 47 GOPers all know global warming is a fact. Their corporate lords and masters want the status-quo and so they vote and (publicly) espouse global warming denialism. Environmental concerns, any environmental concerns, take a back seat to corporate interests in their world view. And I personally believe that Conservatives throughout the Universe are the reason for the Fermi Paradox: It's easier to foul the world, use everything, deny problems until it's too late than it is to attempt to live within a planet's means.
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Nosybear
Liar, damn liar, statistician and brewer
11:23 PM on 06/10/2010
The victims of American education who actually believe the laws of nature are subject to veto and that all narratives have equal merit.
itolduso
lateral thinker
10:44 PM on 06/10/2010
......the 47 Senators that read T.F.'s book.... or at least looked at the pictures
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LeftLeanWing
Do I Have to be Nice ?
10:33 PM on 06/10/2010
What kind of country elects 47 senators who deny basic science?

Federation of Confederate States
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Jo SmithDromey
03:06 AM on 06/11/2010
One doomed to fail.
10:32 PM on 06/10/2010
Let me say this again and let me say it loudly: THE US GOVERNMENT IS A FAILED STATE. America is engaged in two unnecessary and unwinable wars, the prospect of financial collapse due to naked fraud, and manmade ecological catastrophe on a scale never before witnessed. If anyone thinks the current government is criminally incompetent and incompetently criminal, have a look at the loons currently running to replace them.
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sampson2
Gardener
11:07 PM on 06/10/2010
"THE US GOVERNMENT IS A FAILED STATE"

WE ARE THE US GOVERNMENT

THEREFORE: WE ARE A FAILED STATE

I don't know if the above is true but that is the logic.
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Nosybear
Liar, damn liar, statistician and brewer
11:24 PM on 06/10/2010
Can't fault the logic....
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ChloeW
12:40 AM on 06/11/2010
The idea of voting in progressive Dems is great, but I'm not sure how it will work. First of all, seems we'll lose a bunch of Dems in 2010. Secondly, the country doesn't vote in progressive Dems, as a rule. It's not an accident that we have the kooks we have in office......we (citizens) voted them in!! Considering that the GOP and Conserva Dems don't represent most citizens best interestes....I don't know why people vote them in year after year after year, but they do. Until the populace wakes-up and gets with the program, I agree, we're screwed!! LOL It's hard to imagine our populace will wake-up as they are being dumbed down as fast as possible in our ineffective public schools. Between the lack of good education for too many, and all the psych and street drugs.....we're screwed! It's a daunting task to get people to wake-up and vote in their best interests. I hope we (the citizens) are able to pull it off.
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Carachama
I'm not apt to follow blindly the lead of others
10:11 PM on 06/10/2010
I don't understand, even if global warming is not occurring, the steps to fix it are things that will make the world a better place. We can't lose. What the heck is the controversy?

The scientific evidence is that the climate is warming (no doubt about this) and that it is likely that humans are having a strong impact on this warming. Lets start fixing this thing and quick.
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Mikel Moore
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11:41 PM on 06/10/2010
And to add to the irony Rupert Murdoch publicly stated in 2007 that he believes in climatic warming and is moving his company green while his Fox minions continue to spew its denial...
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lordgamble
ATWWWDTG And They Wonder Why We Don't Trust Gov'
11:56 PM on 06/10/2010
You people don't have a grasp on reality. Man hasn't the capacity to have a "strong impact" on whether the earth warms or cools. You really think man is more powerful than the sun, oceans, and volcanos combined? Get a grip.
04:13 AM on 06/11/2010
get an education! unless you don't have the capacity?
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meglon978
Beware of gifts bearing Greeks.
05:58 AM on 06/11/2010
You obviously haven't looked around lately, nor do you have any clue what equilibrium is. The fact we've been in a relatively stable temperate climate period is an anomaly, earths climate is usually much more volatile. Holding on to that state of equilibrium is precarious at best, so to increase the pressures on it is just a really bad feking idea... to anyone with a simple understanding of basic science. Idiots who can't understand basic science, however, can't seem to grasp that.
09:36 PM on 06/10/2010
Conservatism was founded to destroy any enlightenment of the serfs, and "conserve" the monarchy.

Lying to the serfs publicly is a badge of honor amongst conservatives.

The founding fathers were liberals fighting against the conservative British monarchy.

Not what Beck tells his dupes.
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bsmithslo
09:35 PM on 06/10/2010
"Yet, 47 senators voted yes on the so-called Murkowski Amendment.

What kind of country elects 47 senators who deny basic science?"

The kind of country that should reject overly simplistic arguments of people who seek to thwart the Legislative process by giving all the power to an unaccountable government agency. Voting for the Murkowski amendment does not suggest a rejection of basic science.
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LeftLeanWing
Do I Have to be Nice ?
10:35 PM on 06/10/2010
We have rejected overly simplistic arguments.... therefore that is why it failed....

Science does not follow nor require legislative decisions for truth
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bsmithslo
12:44 AM on 06/11/2010
Please revisit some of the scientific conclusions at the FDA, the EPA, and the DHHS, (do we even need to bring up the ability to oversee scientists and other professionals? MMS, blackwater, the Fed?). How about the ineffectiveness, lack of transparency, and reputation of the U.N.? Government agencies tend to be influenced more by politics then they are influence by science.

The reason the EPA wants the ability to regulate CO2 is they want to be able to circumvent the Congress in making treaties like the ones attempted in Copenhagen last year. This would be like allowing one agency, like the NSA the ability to enter into treaties with foreign powers. Congress has the obligation to ratify such treaties and agreements. I would not like the NSA to be able to determine whether or not we go to war. Would you? I don't want the EPA to determine what level of CO2's can be released do to some negotiation with the U.N.

In California we have something set up to protect the beauty of our coastline called the coastal commission. It has turned out to be an absolute nightmare of political influence making determinations about what people can do with their land based on the view from the ocean. Extremely valuable property has been rendered useless because unelected officials would prefer to see rolling hills from a tanker at sea then allowing landowners to build multimillion dollar homes and ranches on their own property.
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Richard2
12:36 AM on 06/11/2010
Despite the headline, the Senators didn't vote on whether the earth is flat or not. The Senators voted on a measure regarding the division of power between the legislative and executive branches of government. The issue was political, not scientific.
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realpolitic
Obama does care!
04:46 AM on 06/12/2010
Thankfully, the Senators voted that the earth was not flat despite what warming deniers would have us believe.
09:26 PM on 06/10/2010
Why bother asking what kind of country would vote to support Murkowski. We all know the country is America. The late, great America. Why even bother blaming BP. BP merely serves a market of more than willing consumers. So do the senators.