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RudyHaugeneder
12:11 PM on 07/07/2010
If Gulf of Mexico waters were used to make beer and whiskey, Rednecks and Wall Street wouldn't allow offshore drilling -- and would rebel and demonstrate on the streets against it.
Unfortunately, it is not so.
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HLL
The way of truth & love has always won ~ Gandhi
12:09 PM on 07/07/2010
I love this quote about the Earth from John Muir:

"I only went out for a walk and finally concluded to stay out till sundown, for going out, I found, was really going in."
~ John Muir

And we all know this quote from Jacques Cousteau is true:

"If we go on the way we have, the fault is our greed; and if we are not willing to change, we will disappear from the face of the globe, to be replaced by the insect."
~ Jacques Cousteau

Someone said, 'everyday is Earth day.' I hope with all my heart that we all of us, collectively around the Earth, wake up and start protecting. I believe the movement has already shifted now in a more dramatic way. I think the horror of Deepwater Horizon has served a greater purpose, heartbreaking and catastrophic as it is - in waking more of us up. That is my hope.
12:07 PM on 07/07/2010
So is BP going to start spraying deadly poisonous corexit on the lake now too?
outnow
Ban the bomb
12:04 PM on 07/07/2010
Anyone who saw the levees in the Sixties would have foreseen that they would fail. The capped wells will open with an earthquake of sufficient proportions. Upstream agriculture dumps pesticides and fertilizers and well as othe toxic waste. The Delta shifts immense amounts of weight onto the floor of the Gulf as silt accumulates. The Gulf is not a good place to alter the environment. But don't tell them the facts - they don't want to hear it.
12:03 PM on 07/07/2010
Plugged and abandoned? No, just abandoned.
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bronncohowie
Everyone register to vote.
12:01 PM on 07/07/2010
Wow, what a surprise, the oil industry has abandoned wells that leaking into the Gulf. I think the Feds could probably balance their budget if they just went after the oil giants and made them clean up the wells and cap them permanently. If they can't do it, heavy fines should be leveled.
11:58 AM on 07/07/2010
I watched on CNN as a fisherman in LA stated that he'd seen tar-balls well before the BP disaster - he suggested that that is a part of having a thriving oil industry in Louisiana.True, but I got me thinking that at some point we (Americans) are going to have to make some hard choices about energy. If we want to save our local environments, if we want our drinking water to be less polluted by meals, "natural" gas leaks, oil production waste, if we want animals around so we fish, hunt (ick--but to each their own), or have a sustainable ecosystems, save entire mountaintops or mountains and the lives of hard-working miners who work them, decrease asthma in our children, etc., we'll have to decide to make some changes to our energy policy.

As for the jobs and communities that would be impacted by a decrease in our harmful energy practices-- perhaps implementing 'Green Energy' companies to begin a transition of our most harmful energy industries to something that might actually sustain (save) us for generations to come seems like a good investment.
12:05 PM on 07/07/2010
The most powerful changes to our 'energy policy' start at home.
12:19 PM on 07/07/2010
You're absolutely right. But it definitely doesn't work if those communities remain threatened by all that I've mentioned; one doesn't work w/o the other.
12:34 PM on 07/07/2010
here's another newsflash for you: There were tarballs before there was any oil drilling. natural seepage. Always has been, always will be.
12:40 PM on 07/07/2010
Soooo, that means what??? We're perfectly fine conducting business-as-usual??? Hope that'll be your answer when rivers become septic or you can light your drinking water on fire.
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Tom95134
11:58 AM on 07/07/2010
Many of these wells are listed as "abandoned" for business purposes only. They have been capped and will be reopened when the price of oil has risen to the point when it is feasible to recover the oil using more costly technology. In the meantime, because they are legally abandoned the companies holding the leases can essentially ignore maintaining the wellhead and can move the oil recovery platform elsewhere.
04:13 PM on 07/07/2010
When wells are abandoned they are plugged with cement and they abandoned below the mud line. There is no wellhead to essentially ignore at that point. Moving the "oil recovery platform" is not easy and it is rarely economical to do so- they are usually dismantled and sold for salvage.
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KarlaElisa
The atmosphere is Toxic
11:47 AM on 07/07/2010
JFC.
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Ampoliros
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11:56 AM on 07/07/2010
And this is just what they can report. Worst case scenario In a year we won't need wells to get oil from the gulf, just a hazmat suit and a siphon.
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Fez
Ignorance is no excuse for the law.
11:47 AM on 07/07/2010
The Minerals Management (sic) Service (sic) should be immediately dismantled and a new agency should be created to actually regulate oil and gas drilling. It is not possible to re-tool this corrupt bureaucracy because it has been captured by the idustry it is supposed to regulate. Also, this new agency should be put under the EPA. The DOI has been fully corrupted by oil pigs, miners, ranchers, and other vermin. Consider the BLM, probably the single most corrupt federal land management agency this side of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The BLM works for miners and ranchers. Period. The MMS works for the oil and gas industry. Call the new agency the Dept. of Industrial Regulation, re-write the rules to give them authority to shut down willfully negligent companies, and fund them with enough money to do their jobs properly.
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senor frog
12:08 PM on 07/07/2010
I couldn't agree more. The MMS was negligent and abdicated its responsibilities to us citizens a long time ago.
04:14 PM on 07/07/2010
Where have you been? You are not aware that Salazar is doing just that?
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11:44 AM on 07/07/2010
It seems Drakes well sounded a death knell for ecosystems, earth stewardship responsibility, and only enhanced the "profit over everything" mentality that still persists.
The Niger delta, the gulf, and countless other areas of our globe, are in a state of ruin due to the petroleum megalodon and the worlds duplicity in bowing in fear to it.
I don't support "cap and trade", nor any bill renamed to obfuscate it's purpose. I know, sacred cow, hear me before dropping the mountain of scorn dangling precariously over my grey head. BHO said our electric bills would "necessarily" skyrocket, electric cars of today require they either be plugged into your house or a charging station, up to 8 hours to charge a battery pack and no less than 2. prior to Gulf debacle BP was working with "clean energy" proponents favoring cap and trade. Why would I pay a dime more on my electric bill to power companies, same result, same players just no oil. Tech exists, ( "Joe cell" et all,) that can provide power plants capable of generating their own power and don't require transferring my hard earned cash from oil to electric under the guise of " helping me, helping the environment." If my government wants me to pay tax's, man up and do it, but if your purpose is to give still more to these robber barons, chuck you Farley.
As for our environment, let's figure out how to save it for real, I'm all in.
12:06 PM on 07/07/2010
KILL YOUR CAR.
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dlivtx
12:23 PM on 07/07/2010
Now that China is beginning to get into the automobile industry I am afraid that anything we do to curb oil consumption will make little difference in the long run.

I am impatiently waiting for some real changes in car manufacturing. A lot of technology is out there but not on the market because car manufacturers are in bed with the oil industry. Meanwhile, I can't kill my car because I live over 20 miles from the nearest town.
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12:33 PM on 07/07/2010
Call to clarify, " kill my car" , what then is my remedy? Actualy I personally have a remedy, just no cash to produce it. Where is your car burried? I've supported big oil by filling up my 1999 dodge all of twice this entire year. My issue is and will remain to be focused upon the exposure and downfall of those individuals/ corporations that malignantly use the world, it's people, and it's resources too advantage without thought nor care to it's actions. After much patient observation, it has dawned on me and a few others that until the " root" is removed, the symptoms will remain irregardless of any attempt to remedy said symptoms. Therefor it can be stated with certainty " the effort to remedy a cause through it's symptom is nothing more than an exercise in futility." As I am getting older, I find less time to "tilt at the windmill" and a more focused endeavor to silence the source of the wind.
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stopthemadness69
We The People or We The Corporations?
12:27 PM on 07/07/2010
This is the US so unfortunately money talks and is the only language spoken by the energy industry so we are going to have to charge them for polluting. Big business will not do things that benefit the environment or the people if it costs them more money, unless they are forced to do so. Power bills will probably go up but isn't that the fault of the company for passing the cost of being cleaner onto the customer and not the fault of the government for making them be cleaner in the first place? Most of the countries that are further along in green tech and green ways of life than we are, got there by making polluters pay for polluting and paying companies to invest in green tech. We must penalize those that pollute and reward those that wish to be a part of the green solution.

I see 2 ways in which higher taxes would help green tech. one, we have the governmnet take over the entire power industry and use those higher taxes to invest in green tech ourselves, meaning no more private power companies or we use those higher taxes to pay out subsidies to power companies and green tech companies in order to encourage them to invest in green tech so that it becomes cheaper and things like batteries and solar panels get lighter and more efficient. Money talks in the energy sector and we need to become fluent in their language.
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01:01 PM on 07/07/2010
Everything you state is factual, nor could any thinking person refute the facts as stated, but rebuttal remains. We the people, whom are by default are the " polluter", made so by lack of viable remedy through purposeful manipulation of common technology(s), for posterity ensuring the continued robbery of we the polluter, by enslaving us by mandate of gaismanship and not by popular consensus, have stolen our prosperity and continuing to do so until such time as we the polluter know beyond question that we the polluter are the remedy, not by compliance nor servile acceptance, but by addressing by direct intervention those who by such manipulations have robed us of our birth right, have wrongly enslaved us, made us party to our worlds destruction, and have caused us to hold to the false belief that we have no power for change.
Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting a different result.
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devildog21
"War is a Racket" -Smedley D. Butler MajGen USMC
11:43 AM on 07/07/2010
"Officials at the U.S. Interior Department, which oversees the agency that regulates federal leases in the Gulf and elsewhere, did not answer repeated questions regarding why there are no inspections of abandoned wells."

Didn't anyone tell AP that the government can't talk to the press with out permission from the oil industry?
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edgarcaycedoc
11:40 AM on 07/07/2010
Looks like more than 27,000 places in the gulf to be declared "off limits" to the media.
outnow
Ban the bomb
11:38 AM on 07/07/2010
The entire oil industry is a ticking time bomb for the environment and ultimately humanity itself. This is the way in which our species is pre-programed to self-destruct. The profit motive keeps the damage concealed.

I have always know this, even as a child some fifty - sixty years ago. I know it is a big concept for "adults." Just like smoking tobacco and asbestos - really hard for grownups to understand.

Most of my education was nothing more than an attempt to disuade me from conclusions derived from the powers of common observation given to a child who looked at the world with eyes wide open.

The human race has a death wish or is in denial. They don't care about their children.
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devildog21
"War is a Racket" -Smedley D. Butler MajGen USMC
11:46 AM on 07/07/2010
You must have been an unusual child...I mean that in a good way.
outnow
Ban the bomb
11:58 AM on 07/07/2010
It made me a great paleontologist because I kept my eyes open. It also gave the ability to see right through issues to the core. For example, I predicted that liposuction would enable fat people to lose fat. I could never understand why tobacco companies were allowed to advertise. It brought me into conflict with teaching assistants who were insecure but made me poular with professors. Most of my ideas are original.
11:35 AM on 07/07/2010
But everyone liked those gas guzzling SUVs. And you know you need two cars minimum. Follow the money and see why there are capped oil wells all over the world - in the ocean and on land. And yet people want more. Hurrah for Sarah Palin. She knows she will be raptured so she doesn't worry.
11:49 AM on 07/07/2010
Yeah, great point. Show of hands -- who on this board didn't drive to work today? I'm sure there are many of you, but not as many as needed to avoid drilling the oil these guys are drilling.

I'm not saying that the blood is on the hands of anyone that uses oil -- it's impossible not to use it in modern society. It's used to build the plastic keyboard we're typing on right now. Just saying that any amount we can reduce the demand for oil reduces the potential for these accidents. Without demand, there is no reason to drill these wells at all...
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Ampoliros
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
12:00 PM on 07/07/2010
I loved the MTA in NYC when i visited. I'd love to have something like that where I live in Texas.