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05:48 PM on 07/19/2010
Just another day in the ongoing Genocide of the Indians going on since 1492, nothing new to us.

Should this be a sinking ship of the coast of Maryland loaded with a few Europeans, Europeans non blacks, it would be called "An American Tragedy of Major Magnitude, The Unthinkable!. "Shock Waves Around The Civilized World" Books, Movies, ''Name a Party to Make Sure: Never Again!" "A Bank Account to the families victims of this real Americans" Their names in stones, commemoration and all kind of kr@p

That's when tragedy strikes one of thous "Brewer's" or "Wilson's' or "Limbaugh" I can nothing but smirk.
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HerrMonk
Pro-Athlete/Trainer Ex-National Security Consult
07:01 PM on 07/19/2010
The sun has been murdering "Indians" since 1492 huh?
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notillegal2
02:55 PM on 07/20/2010
That dang sun is brutal.
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Vince Weiguang Li
Alferd Packer-Epicurean Go Go Greyhound!
07:17 PM on 07/19/2010
Yawn...

I gotta go down to the casino on indian sovereign nation land to drop a couple of bucks, to contribute to the tribe's tax free haul. Reparations at a nickle dime quarter dollar at a time.
07:37 PM on 07/19/2010
Yawn? Gee you should get some rest.
05:20 PM on 07/19/2010
"Authorities believe the high number of deaths are likely due to above-average and unrelenting heat in southern Arizona this month and ongoing tighter border security that pushes immigrants to more remote, rugged and dangerous terrain. "

Two things that Republicans claim don't exist...

Tighter border security and climate change.

~sigh
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Pablo Manriquez
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03:51 PM on 07/19/2010
It is noteworthy that the coroner is not attributing these deaths to AZ Gov. Jan Brewer's "drug war", but rather to the soaring summer heat. It seems the Gov's fables about the drug war arrived on US soil remain political fiction.
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notillegal2
02:56 PM on 07/20/2010
The drug war IS on Arizona soil. Just ask the dead rancher's family.
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03:34 PM on 07/19/2010
This is really unfortunate, the country of Mexico needs to step up education about taking these risks of high likelihood of dying in the desert when trying to enter the US.
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sssteverrr
Bound to be, who we are
12:54 PM on 07/19/2010
Yes, lets get all excited about illegal aliens while the corporations and the super wealthy are legally destroying our country and our way of life.

Many Americans hate the "left" but with the end of Communism as a force to reckon with the progressive and compassionate America that was even supported by the likes of Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon, no less, is now termed socialism.

We are in very big trouble and are generally to stupid to save ourselves. I have been fortunate to live in the end times of American prosperity. I fear for my grandchildren well being in Amerika.
02:41 PM on 07/19/2010
Funny how you should mention Eisenhower. He had the wisdom back then to deport illegal aliens en masse
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04:51 PM on 07/19/2010
So I suppose the deportations of the 50's were as big a failure as the amnesties of the 80's.
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voxpop88
06:03 PM on 07/19/2010
Funny you should mention Eisenhower.

He had the wisdom of wholly dedicating his presidential farewell speech to the American people to warn them of the "Military Industrial Complex," which steals, legally, from the U.S. population, and is the vaster bigger problem, exponentially, of many of the U.S.'s current straits:

*1. $1 to $3 trillion of U.S. taxpayer money, for the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and is severally adversely affecting the U.S., and world economies, while fomenting further terrorism amongst Muslim populations, and making all global citizens less safe.

*2. Yours in a "willful ignorance" that hurts us all: the totality of the U.S. citizenry is composed of indigenous Native Americans, and immigrants and their descendants, of which you are categorically a member.

*3. Your scapegoating of immigrants is not isolated: it happens in many places around the globe, where "native" populations wrongly blame immigrants relating to many issues. The claims are largely ignorant reactions to historically based conditions.

*4. The solution, for you, is simple: READ books related to the history of the U.S., and cogitate on the ramifications.

Until then, you should be nicer to migrants- as your are the undoubtedly the progeny of them (unless you truly are a blood-sucking vampire, as self-advertised).
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TROOPER-X
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12:44 PM on 07/19/2010
Sadly, mother nature provides more border enforcement than the feds who gobble our tax dollars.
07:43 PM on 07/19/2010
Then lets plant more trees along "the border"
12:28 PM on 07/19/2010
I wonder how many are running away from the violence in Mexico?
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mixpiklix
01:24 PM on 07/19/2010
during harvest time they are looking for work.
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theerrantsoul
12:16 PM on 07/19/2010
These people risk their lives crossing the Arizona desert to have a chance at American opportunity.

What have you done to earn it?
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12:27 PM on 07/19/2010
I have fought and bled for my country on at least three continents. Also, I was born an American, should I be sorry about that fact? WHy should just crossing a desert afford you the opportunity in the US?
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theerrantsoul
12:43 PM on 07/19/2010
Thank you for your contribution to our country - it's something to admire. I'd say you have more right to your citizenship than most, legal requirements aside. Certainly more than me. :)

My point is that when you look at what those immigrants went through to get here, and the jobs that they are willing to do when they get here, shows us that they are willing to sacrifice a lot in order to live and work here - or that the place from which they are coming is even worse than crossing a deadly-hot desert for a crappy agricultural or construction job which pays less than minimum wage. Either way, wouldn't you say that legal questions aside, they've done more (or have a greater need) of the benefits of citizenship than the majority of American citizens?

I say this as someone who has gained his citizenship solely through being lucky enough to have been born here, and it is for that reason that I can't judge these people for wanting the same opportunities, but being unlucky in where they themselves were born. I'm no better or more deserving than they are, nor are the majority of Americans.

I think open borders are a dumb idea, and any immigration reforms which occur need to have as much emphasis on border protection as they do on addressing our current illegal resident population - I just think we should cut them some slack, and do our best to be compassionate and reasonable
02:08 PM on 07/19/2010
There are billions of people who would want to live here and many who would do as the Mexican illegals to get here. Unfortunately, they are not geographically close and can't make it. Should we find a way to make it easier for all to illegally enter just to make it more fair for all? That is the liberal way, isn't it?
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voxpop88
01:04 AM on 07/20/2010
The "liberal way" is to use reason in the service of humanity, often against hatred and ignorance.

“Legality” is not the only dimension when analyzing social and economic issues.

What part of "legal" was ethical or moral about these U.S. laws?

*1. Slavery was "legal."
*2. Jim Crow laws and segregation were "legal."
*3. Child labor was "legal."
*4. Women being disenfranchised was "legal."

All of you on this site who are posting against "illegals" should:

*1. Be forced to read and learn "real history" that actually applies to important issues.

*2. Learn that ethics and morality are more important than legal codes that are have not caught up with true conceptions of real human rights.

*3. Stop being selfish and recognize you are no better that the Mexicans- only luckier to have been born 10 degrees latitude north than your "sister and brother" humans.”

[Re-posted, until the irrational rationale of the inhumane treatment of “illegals” subsides]
12:10 PM on 07/19/2010
Seems the death of most illegal aliens could be prevented if we had rule-of-law support. Thankfully, finally, some members of the Congress are now seeing the light and are going to try and finally solve this issue with their new bill proposal. Ironically, they are targeting unemployment issues at the same time. I'm watching the news everyday to hear more details.
http://www.xelanbonn.com/3119/controversial-bill-could-drop-unemployment-below-5/
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zfire
02:30 PM on 07/19/2010
These are the jobs the immigrants are doing. They are available for any citizen that is willing to apply.

http://www.takeourjobs.org/
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notillegal2
02:59 PM on 07/20/2010
Send it over to whitehouse.gov
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voxpop88
01:37 AM on 07/20/2010
1. Importantly, those you seek to scapegoat are better-described as "undocumented migrant workers," but you seek to tar them with the unwholesome epithet "illegal alien,"; they are humans, and come here to work at jobs others would not even consider, and they help our economy.

2. "Im watching the news everyday to hear more details."

It would be better for you, and everyone who suffers your ignorant opinions, if you turned the "idiot box" (so apt) off and READ a book, many books, on global migration, the history of boundaries between nations, or race relations.

Until then, you are exactly as you described yourself, "watching the news," instead of educating yourself.

3. Stop spreading the hate about poor Mexicans, and quit scapegoating migrants. It's racist.

4. Who are the bigger, and biggest criminals, responsible for our sagging economy?

The arms manufacturers, and their (supposedly "our," but you watch TV for your news) congressional representatives.

Want something to feel righteous about and change?

How about getting angry at how little of our tax dollars go to education, instead of the "manufacturers of death," that make our world unsafe by creating more unneeded wars, and the terrorists that accompany them
12:10 PM on 07/19/2010
Gee, maybe if Arizona had a tough new immigration law, they wouldn't bother trying to come here ILLEGALLY and die in the process. So, you see, SB 1070 will actually SAVE lives...
12:24 PM on 07/19/2010
The Az. law has no teeth, and by the way, what parts of SB1070 different from laws already on the books. sladen
01:52 PM on 07/19/2010
That's not a realistic solution. Humans are migratory creatures. They will do what it takes to provide for their families. Your ancestors settled in North America to find a better life. People will continue to do so.
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
02:21 PM on 07/19/2010
I like your name yoginiprincess; I can just imagine.

I also agree we should acknowledge human nature.
I think we should legalize and regulate/tax prostitution as well as weed.
That would also cut down on illegals trafficking in drugs and prostitutes;
which in turn would reduce crime.

However, if you are advocating an open border for the US, that's where we part.
No other country does that, and exists.
No one is saying keep immigrants out; just have an orderly process.
We not only have a right but an obligation to those who have followed our laws.
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
11:42 AM on 07/19/2010
There are many reasons to secure our borders; we can all list them.
But saving the lives of illegals is usually one that's left out.

It's obvious we haven't done enough to secure our borders, until these deaths are down by at least 90%. It's the humane thing to do.

I wonder how many Huffies will agree?
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PLDgyrl
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11:57 AM on 07/19/2010
They make the choice to put their own lives at risk!!!! This is their decision. It has nothing to do with our actions at the border. Also I don't think the 90% metric that you provided should be used to measure our level of success at the border.
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
12:36 PM on 07/19/2010
What measure would you prefer?
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LeftRight
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04:50 PM on 07/19/2010
I agree, but people like YOU think that the solution is a bad idea. Let's look at WHY they come here illegally, and we'll see that it's ALWAYS tied back to getting JOBS!

If we get rid of the jobs, then we get rid of the illegals. The solution, therefore, is to go after the EMPLOYERS, not waste money building a fence which won't stop more than a tiny minority of them!
11:40 AM on 07/19/2010
And to think the Mexican Government sanctions this by not providing a safe haven and work in it's own country for their citizens.
11:44 AM on 07/19/2010
It's a disgustingly corrupt country.
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sssteverrr
Bound to be, who we are
12:45 PM on 07/19/2010
Ours or theirs. In our America Corruption is legal, thats the only difference.

And don't worry to much because as we're going, in about 20 years you''ll be sneaking into Canada for health care and a decent wage.
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american-dolt
Tax the Rich
11:21 AM on 07/19/2010
This should vindicate Arizona.
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Imhotep40
He who comes in peace
01:25 PM on 07/19/2010
How so?

It's definitely not a deterrent to stemming the flow of illegals, it's costing the state more money in Coroner/Morgue services, Legal fees to defend the law, an incumbent Senator who's flip-flopped on immigration reform . . . . what's the up-side of people dying in the desert, again?
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frankg3400
03:36 AM on 07/20/2010
These deaths have nothing to do with the our SB1070. These deaths have been happening every summer, the reason there so high this year is because our monsoons haven't arrived and are a month and a half behind schedule. It has only rained once in my area of Tucson since the monsoon season started. The normally high daytime temperatures and with the abnormally high temps and humidity at night are not giving the illegals any relief and the need for much, much more water. I just walked my dog and came in sweating like a pig. They cannot carry enough water normally, but with this unusually dry and humid summer they are losing way to much body water to survive.
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QuietLightTraveler
Scientist, Teacher, Naturalist, Photographer
10:59 AM on 07/19/2010
It is a shame people have to die trying to get out of their country. But it's essential that we secure our borders if we want to continue to have a viable nation. Actually, we have enough people in this country already and it wouldn't be a bad idea if we even froze legal immigration for a few years.(increased population = increased competition for a finite amount of resources) We should be cognizant of population growth in this country although I know our brain dead politicians wouldn't concern themselves with anything until it reaches a crisis level. Our immigration people also don't discriminate well enough about who they let into this country.
I don't know why I bother saying these things. By now everyone knows that our governmental agencies don't do their jobs very sensibly or effectively.
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PLDgyrl
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12:00 PM on 07/19/2010
Thank you for post such a rational post. I know it will probably be ignored by most so I wanted to let you know that I appreciate you posting this. Faved!!!
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01:11 PM on 07/19/2010
Indeed
10:42 AM on 07/19/2010
What's the point of the story? It's a hot summer? There should be better advertising on the dangers of crossing the border during the summer?
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PLDgyrl
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11:08 AM on 07/19/2010
Um...it should just be common sense....
11:17 AM on 07/19/2010
Maybe they should put sings up in the desert that say "hey, its hot here"

and that will make them turn around and go back home!
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theerrantsoul
12:17 PM on 07/19/2010
I don't think it has a point. Remember, the duty of news agencies is typically to provide information, not convince you of something.