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NYC123
08:36 AM on 08/03/2010
Important note!
We must get the word out "that our imperialistic war days are over!" We are in a new age, where we look to convert military equipment and arms into plowing equipment; and lead with an understanding that the world is an imperfect earth, and that tolerance and respect of others will go a long way toward peace and harmony! The world is dying before our eyes b/c of the selfish pursuits of a few in this world -- and we are in the front of that line! Let's change the current dynamics and pave the way to a new world.... and it can only start with a new America!!! Our numbers are great and our voices have to be one voice!!!

Please circulate to friends and family, this message is timely and important to all if we are to change the direction the country has paved -- one of continuous war and destruction! We cannot just sit back and be a spectator anymore!!
08:33 AM on 08/03/2010
" Attacks on "coalition" forces increase after civilian deaths "......? That is the statement that shows the gaaping hole in our strategy. Take one step back. Logic, says to the locals that, if the US, were not here, there would be no US bullets or bombs to kill, me or my family, therefore, it would be better if they were not here, at all. So, I, as a local, will not support you and never will. Oh, I'll be nice when you are here in my town but soon just after you leave or are out of sight, I will signal my digust for you,so the local Taliban, knows that I'm not supporting you. Further, I will help the Taliban, rob US re-supply trucks and ambush US, soldiers.

That is why "COIN" will never work. PERIOD. It is a flawed, illogical, strategy.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
08:33 AM on 08/03/2010
Well, DUH, that would be normal!
08:13 AM on 08/03/2010
They needed almost 10 years just to figure out this simple fact. How many more years you need to find out that this war is not worth it all the lives, Americans and Afghans?
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Demidan
",,,and pull up your pants!"
08:34 AM on 08/03/2010
That depends, My daughter is two so at least 16 more.
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Ascoli
08:37 AM on 08/03/2010
"The answer my friend is blowing in the wind
The answer is blowing in the wind"
B.Dylan
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Gaylord P Farqua
Herb Gardner Amateur Chef, Historian and Political
08:09 AM on 08/03/2010
The news has regular reports of Mexican gang activity on US soil. Americans do not like Mexicans coming across the border to sell drugs and shoot up our neighborhoods. If you can imagine how we would react if the Mexican army decided to cross the border with tanks, choppers, massive infantry units to "help" us deal with the problem? The Afghan people are not well educated or in many cases simply illiterate. They do not appreciate the geopolitical ramifications of what is happening around them. They just know that yet another invader has chosen their land as a battlefield and their loved ones are going to be killed or maimed in the chaos. We have been there nearly ten years. It is a wonder that any of them are left who do not hate us. Well past time to get out. If for no other reason we cannot afford it and our "allies" are deserting us.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
08:35 AM on 08/03/2010
While you say that about the border I just heard there is 1 million dollars being offered to get the Sherrif Arapaijo in Arizona.
09:07 AM on 08/03/2010
The moral and legal equivalences you set up are absurd and untenable.
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Gaylord P Farqua
Herb Gardner Amateur Chef, Historian and Political
12:00 PM on 08/03/2010
Clearly you are a supporter of our Bush/Obama foreign policy. Whether what was written meets your comparison standards or not the fact remains that we are not winning anything and at some point we will have to withdraw. We invaded a nation that has suffered enough from foreign adventures. Every day we stay increases the odds that more American kids will be killed or wounded. If you have served in one of these jackpots you should know better. If you haven't take the time to visit a VA hospital and ask someone who has. Incidentally there is no moral or legal justification for this bull***t. Just profit.
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Montaignelover
I think, therefore I vote 3rd party
07:40 AM on 08/03/2010
I hope all you anti-war voters (and I truly believe ther are many millions of us who put war first!) who voted for Obama are learning your lesson, as you watch HIS WAR fall apart. Did you know he also INCREASED defense spending?
That didn't get a lot of coverage in the corporate press.

Anti-war voters- we need to abandon the dems wholesale in 2012.
We need to teach them a lesson.
If repubs win an election or two as a consequence, so be it. In the long run, the dems NEED to learn that the left cannot simply be counted on to mindlessly support evil- even when it is marginally less than other evils.
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pagansmom
Truth fears no questions
08:07 AM on 08/03/2010
Yeah, that's a great idea. Vote the repubs back in, so they can START another couple of wars, based on lies. Buy some logic.
08:16 AM on 08/03/2010
Got another idea? More Obama - HA!!
08:18 AM on 08/03/2010
Vote green then.
08:16 AM on 08/03/2010
Montaignelover: So you're saying the Republicans will be anti war if they're in power? Hmm ... the past evidence doesn't point to that conclusion, so I'm not sure if that's going to be the case. It's rhetorical to wonder how it might be different if a different party is in charge, since as you say, one is marginally more evil than the other.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
07:36 AM on 08/03/2010
Presumably the incidents covered are a tiny sample of the larger slaughter. Our leadership would not want to let people know the full scope of the harm we are doing.
07:27 AM on 08/03/2010
The problem is that the world does NOT share our attitude that it is our right as american's to kill innocent people in the name of "freedom" and that american lives are worth more than everyone else's.
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Walter H
Thou shalt not coerce. One and done.
07:26 AM on 08/03/2010
In sympathy for all of the brilliant war planners at the pentagon, there is no possible way anyone could have foreseen this scenario, again and again and again. The subtleties of war are, well, just endless.
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Rubiconski
On Crisis Standby Mode
07:26 AM on 08/03/2010
Tribal Code = A eye for a eye.

Don't need some fancy million dollar report to know that.

Solution = Stop killing Afghans and go home.
08:16 AM on 08/03/2010
Spot on!
07:22 AM on 08/03/2010
not sure which should be more saddening: the fact that we're losing young americans on a losing mission, or that we can shamelessly admit that we're engaged in murdering innocent civilians?
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Ascoli
08:48 AM on 08/03/2010
What horrible,painful,truthful questions ....we must ask ourselves.
Sad so sad so sad
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07:16 AM on 08/03/2010
I can't imagine why it takes great minds to come up with this conclusion. Imagine half your family slaughtered by an unseen drone on their way to the grocery store. Would you take up arms? I sure would.
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08:09 AM on 08/03/2010
True - everyone would.
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06:47 AM on 08/03/2010
If America were suddenly occupied by a foreign entity who was bent on stripping its resources (especially oil) to fund an imperialist system of siphoning the world's wealth into the hands of the fewest while indiscriminately killing my friends and family and joking about it (Wikileaks anyone?), I would understand those who stood against such an aggressor.

We need to leave Iraq and Afghanistan yesterday. Our country is committing blatant war crimes and has shown that its perpetuity crosses party lines. I didn't think anyone could be worse than Bush and due to the American one-party system of Demoblicanism in this country, Obama has proven me wrong. We are still there. Sacrificing our loved ones and our futures because we blindly trust in a consortium of liars and thieves.

Our children are sent overseas to kill and die for a lie. This war exists not to protect freedoms or root out terrorism - it stands as a testament to the incentive of a monetary military that ensures ongoing war in order to fleece as much taxes from the unwitting as possible. We have a virtually unlimited funded government "security" that embodies everything from the FBI to the Navy. Do you people really think they'd ever let such a fantastic cash-cow be stopped by such fantasies as "peace" and "reduced arms"?

It is understandable why they would fight us. Knowing that we are the invaders, the pillagers and the murderers is sobering.

How do we leave? We just leave.
07:01 AM on 08/03/2010
Thank you for speaking the truth.

However, those who should read it are not here...
07:04 AM on 08/03/2010
You hit the nail on the head! It is amazing how few people think of the golden rule.

The complication - especially when it comes to Iraq - is that we have wrecked considerable destruction on their infrastructure and culture, so simply leaving is somehow not right. Perhaps some form or reparations would be appropriate. Unfortunately, since in both countries we have replaced one group of thugs with another, we have little assurance that anything we would do would actually benefit the ordinary citizens. So, then, perhaps we should just leave, rather than doing further harm through our misguided attempts to help.
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07:13 AM on 08/03/2010
My point is that simply leaving itself would begin to help heal the country. Any reparations past that point is, of course, arguable.

I do believe we owe them quite a bit. And Iraq as well. However, I think we need to embrace our humanitarianism and realize exactly what we've wrought on people who think and feel exactly like us - that should be much more important than hammering out paltry reparations bled dry by legal fees and reluctant donors and miles of red tape.
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Donns
06:34 AM on 08/03/2010
I thought we were getting into the "winning hearts and minds" part of this tragic war. Funny way to do it.
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Foxrocks
Level III Thermographer
06:38 AM on 08/03/2010
If we are at war to win hearts and minds it's time to pack up and come home.
06:56 AM on 08/03/2010
True story.
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06:33 AM on 08/03/2010
Only one song can really sum this terrible business in just one word. And it's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyHSjv9gxlE