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professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
11:33 PM on 08/22/2010
Yeah, the same parents who are afraid of outside influences on their 6-year-olds pop up the old popcorn for a good family values night of horror movie watching. Guess who the worst influence on Kiddy is?
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Andy McDonald
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10:58 PM on 08/22/2010
The further we get from reading books, and reading in general, the worse off our society will be. Twitter, internet, TV -- that's what this technology is doing. The technology is not inherently evil, it's the message our culture packages with it. It worries us into thinking we're missing out on something we're told we need, so we spend hours and hours with this technology, making ourselves unfocused and inefficient multi-taskers. Instead of doing a few things well, we do a lot of things poorly or below average.

And what Luntz's poll also fails to point out is that many of the more recent and new parents are already avid users of this technology. "I learned it from watching you!" I think a new approach is needed. We're trying to behead the beast at its tail. The older generations don't understand the technology enough to warn of the consequences, and the younger generations don't understand the consequences enough to teach themselves.

The hyperactive society we've become completely antagonizes the necessary skills needed to sit still and read a book or an article and analyze it critically.

(Now if you'll excuse me I need to go tell some kids to get off my lawn, ha.)
11:39 PM on 08/22/2010
It's not the logic of his site that bothers me. It's the fact that Luntz knows how to take data, transform that data into words and then use those words to frame the national debate - "climate change," "electronic interception," "The Death Tax," and he's asking for parents to sign over their kids' raw data.

Imagine a hypothetical situation in which Luntz - 1. Has the raw data and a means to sort it, 2. Has billing information with zip codes. It wouldn't be a leap of any great magnitude to assume that he'd be capable of using that information to generate influence in targeted areas. Specifically to kids who are 12-13 now and, what 18-19 in the 2016 election cycle?
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AmigaMan
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11:42 PM on 08/22/2010
I have been doing a lot of reading, especially since the first Amazon Kindle came out. I got the newer Kindle when it came out, and gave the original Kindle to my father-in-law (who just happens to be reading a lot now). On August 27th, I will receive the new graphite-colored Kindle, and I am surprising my wife with a new graphite model too.

Since purchasing the original Kindle, I've purchased over 185 books. If I had to have all of them on a bookshelf, I'd have no space in my computer/study room. Now, the only time I buy physical books is when the book is not going to come out in Kindle format. Otherwise, I can't be bothered with wasting paper, cutting of trees, etc. When my wife and I move back to California or possibly Texas, we won't have boxes of books to bring with us. Though, we will have a few boxes filled with university textbooks and other history books I've purchased.

The day is coming when students will no longer have to lug bags full of books home to do their homework. Instead, they will have a personal e-reader that will have all the books they need for the school year, library access to download books, etc. I welcome this change...
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Andy McDonald
@iamandymcdonald
01:39 AM on 08/23/2010
Hmm, well that's not really my point. I know a few people who have Nooks or Kindles and they love them. But they were readers before then. Like I said the technology is not inherently evil.

Yes, we will save a great deal of paper, and yet I'll guarantee, if our entertainment-driven culture continues the way it has, a third of high school graduates will ditch their e-readers and will never read a book again, electronic or otherwise.*

*http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081110_america_the_illiterate/
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Pupadup4oBama
02:49 AM on 08/23/2010
Yay!
09:42 PM on 08/22/2010
Frank, this is why I'm mad - Your "Death Tax" re-branding may cost us $1.3 trillion. Trillion.

"Making permanent the repeal of the estate tax after 2010 — repeatedly proposed by President Bush— would add almost $1.3 trillion to the deficit between fiscal years 2012 and 2021, the first ten years in which the full costs of extending repeal would be reflected in the budget.

This cost includes $1 trillion of lost revenues and $277 billion of higher interest payments on the national debt." (Chye-Ching Huang, The High Cost of Estate Tax Repeal. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities)
09:26 PM on 08/22/2010
Ugh, I'm tired of the right wingers hawking this product (Bill Bennett has been doing it,as well).

I am a mom, and I am angry at the hatred, fear and intolerance my children are exposed to, mostly from conservatives. I'm more concerned about keeping them from watching Fox News than spying on their texting (granted, my kids are 2 and 4, so they are a ways from having a cell phone).

It isn't Silicon Valley's job to parent our kids. Limit your kids access to technology to what they can handle, and instill in them good values. Don't read a teenagers emails...they are a person, and deserve some level of privacy and respect and they develop their own identity. If you've done a good job as a parent, you needn't worry.
10:31 PM on 08/22/2010
I agree - Parents shouldn't read a teenager's e-mail. Nor should they sign up for a service that does it for them. Especially a service run by the same pollster who tried to convince Terry Gross that "To be 'Orwellian' is to speak with absolute clarity, to be succinct, to explain what the event is, to talk about what triggers something happening… and to do so without any pejorative whatsoever."
11:34 AM on 08/23/2010
In theory, you're right. Teens deserve some privacy. Even when my kids were really little, I was a big believer in that sort of thing. Now that I have a teen and a tween, there's a lot more gray where there used to black and white.

If you ever have an inkling that your kids are involved with someone or something dangerous, you're going to want access to Facebook, email, texts, whatever. It's sad, but true. Kids with a solid moral upbringing are still kids and are still vulnerable.

I don't know anything about this service Luntz is talking about and I don't know much about his past. But I do know that kids still need parents who are paying close attention.

And apart from the negative influences that can reach your kids, there's the idea of too much tech time for teenagers, period. I have a niece who is constantly texting -- if she's visiting for the holidays, out to dinner, in the car, whatever. She's a nice, 16-year-old kid, but she's texting or on Facebook all the time. Whenever there is some little hiccup in her life -- her mom won't let her go somewhere or do something -- she's on Facebook whining to hundreds of friends and acquaintances, who then fuel that disappointment and stir up even more resentment toward the mom who is just trying to be a good parent. And don't get me started on the language.

Man, do I feel old. In my day...
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Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
04:39 PM on 08/22/2010
When did Frank Luntz give birth? Wow, there should be more publicity -- isn't he only the second man in history to take advantage of the scientific breakthrough?
04:24 PM on 08/22/2010
Maybe moms should be mad that a man who wrote a book on the power of words to drive political strategy is asking them to use a service that gathers their kids' e-mail and texts.

I mean, hypothetically, that kind of information, if searchable and sortable, would let a man of Dr. Luntz' prodigious talents bend a marketing strategy to better reach a particular market, right? What if, and this is purely hypothetical, that information were to get into the hands of conservative think-tanks? Or News Corp.?

In another hypothetical, what if the "about" page on the MouseMail website showed that current board members did work for News Corp. and various conservative think-tanks?
04:14 PM on 08/22/2010
Frank, you're asking for access to our kids' e-mail. And their texts. That is, you want access to their words. Right?

And once you have those words, what will you do with them? Or, more importantly, what will the GOP do with them?

Will they cross-reference them with billing lists? Will they be able to determine marketing techniques/strategies/headlines per zip code, based on years of data directly from our kids?

Just wondering.
05:41 PM on 08/22/2010
thanks good pt
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TeamSarah4CHOICE
05:42 PM on 08/22/2010
Urgk

I like the way you think.
08:29 PM on 08/22/2010
I'm gald somebody does. I, for one, am getting tired of me scaring the @*!@$#@!# out of myself.

:)
04:11 PM on 08/22/2010
This article is terrible. I don't see what the first three paragraphs have to do with the overall point of the article. As a mom, I'm not mad that there aren't more options to control what my child does online or on the phone. It is simply my job to limit his time on those devices and monitor what he's doing.
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05:24 PM on 08/22/2010
Well said.
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TeamSarah4CHOICE
05:44 PM on 08/22/2010
Rachel,

Are you saying you do not want to pay Frank Luntz company, MouseMail, to have complete access to your child's emails & text messages. Oh, he won't like that.
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time2impeach
Send Justice CT packin'
03:50 PM on 08/22/2010
Me -- I'm worried about the Death Tax!!! It keeps me awake at night praying I don't die!
11:52 PM on 08/22/2010
Aw, don't worry so much about all that. I covered my den with Death Panels. In a sort of bleached oak with cherry trim. The guy at the lumber store said that if it was energy efficient, I'd get a Death Tax Rebate, which, come April, could prove mighty handy.
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mkg489
Just eeking out an existence.
03:37 PM on 08/22/2010
Most of the replies from parents seem very self-centered. "My" this, "I" that, "outside influences are the problem..." Once again, it leads back to that most American of traits--narcissism. Everyone is looking out for themselves, and NOT caring about the other guy and the greater good.

One thing all parents should remember--kids are resourceful, energetic, and open. Same as they have always been. Teach them how to love and care for one another and we might learn something as well.
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keepemhonest
03:36 PM on 08/22/2010
Dear Frank Luntz,

One reason why so many "moms" are anxious is because of YOU. Yes, Frank, YOU. YOU and the words YOU makeup and give to the GOP so that the GOP will FALSELY describe legislation with words YOU MAKEUP.

YOU, Frank Luntz, came up with ALL of the false "words" to falsely describe:
the health care reform bill
the Financial reform bill

Suddenly, YOU pretend to care about "moms" and their "anxiety."

Look in the mirror and MAKE YOUR OWN changes before you TELL & DICTATE to Silicon Valley what "their" role must be.
04:29 PM on 08/22/2010
Is the greatest problem with this post that it seems intended to scare moms? Or that it seems intended to scare moms to a website where they will sign over access to their kids' words to a man who tends to use words to get what he, and the G O P want?
09:56 AM on 08/23/2010
Frank Luntz did not come up with those "words" that was the President and Congress. I take that back it was SEIU and other friends of the President.
03:34 PM on 08/22/2010
Why I'm mad at Frank Luntz? Because he teaches people to sell bad ideas using words that are coded to make them think differently. As far as I'm concerned Luntz is a modern propagandist of the type that have sold trusels (ideas that seem right but work to the disadvantage of all but a few) to people for as long as he's been in the business. He is an unmitigated American disaster. That's my opinion.
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Oldsop
Libertarian...mostly
03:29 PM on 08/22/2010
This article was devoid of anything not already widely understood
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05:33 PM on 08/22/2010
Except that Mr. Lutz has a financial stock in fear. Never Mind. I guess we knew that, too.
02:25 PM on 08/22/2010
The greatest threat to children are the idiotic adults running the civilization they will inherit.
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thinkagain2
01:12 PM on 08/22/2010
The man behind the curtain steps out for a bit of air. Clearly it went to his brain and he suggests 'control' over technology. He figures mom's can't handle their own kids exposure to technology they don't understand themselves, and he may be right. And yet, where is the personal responsibility without regulation of imposition on 'freedoms'?