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ariveria
11:19 PM on 10/06/2010
all these pundits keep missing the point. this is a hot button issue for the right wing. it is everything the republican/conservative/teabaggers say the favor.

free enterprise --- less government regulations --- individual responsibility -- greater individual freedom.

there is no way a conservative/republican/teabagger can oppose this without being labeled a hypocrite.

You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time and those people are my audience.
Glenn Beck staff meeting April 3, 2009

"when the truth is found to be lies"
jefferson airplane
11:32 PM on 10/06/2010
They only believe in their own interests, please don't think there would be consistency or rationality behind their thought process. They don't care if they are being hypocritical, they behave like imputent children.
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ariveria
11:42 PM on 10/06/2010
well then they have left themselves open for attacks.

how can you . . . is unconstitutional and support making pot illegal

how can you oppose . . . and not support the legalization of pot.

you cant beat them with liberal logic you need to beat them with their own logic. which is one of the reasons i post the argument the way i do and i point out over and over that palin and others have never produced a birth certificate.

You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time and those people are my audience.
Glenn Beck staff meeting April 3, 2009

"when the truth is found to be lies"
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Gamsman
Onetime religious conservative
03:05 AM on 10/07/2010
At one time I called myself a Conservative. I realized later, when I learned to apply my beliefs to everything and everyone, I was a Libertarian. The only thing that changed was who I applied my beliefs to. The Republicans only apply their beliefs to what follows their set of beliefs.
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Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
11:57 PM on 10/06/2010
ariveria -

Although they mostly favor the Constitution, maybe they could wave around quotes from the Declaration of Indpendence instead: "Pursuit of happiness!"

Heh.

"I've enjoyed the accommodations offered by police departments from Florida to Hawaii. Any time I saw a badge, something in me would snap."

-Grace Slick, from her autobiography "Somebody To Love?"

-CW
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GregHooper
There is a God and M ~ Theory shows the way
10:38 PM on 10/06/2010
When my brother the Republican told me I shouldn't smoke pot I asked why not and he went red in the face screaming

"Because its illegal"

If there is another reason would some one let me know because I have been smoking weed daily for 35 years and I'll be damned if anyone has ever been able to explain why I shouldn't

The whole thing about it being illegal is a farce and has caused me to have no respect for most authority in general

But that part is normal for me anyway
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Old black water, keep on rollin'
11:01 PM on 10/06/2010
BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

(kidding).. tell your bro to UNCLENCH HIS BUTT!!!

lol..
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GregHooper
There is a God and M ~ Theory shows the way
09:34 AM on 10/07/2010
If it were only that simple Butt clenchers will look for any excuse

My cousin the priest whose order had four priests convicted of pedophilia aka rape of a 14 yr old boy actually had the nerve to lecture me on how I should come back to the church or be sent to hell

His face went white when I said the Catholic Church lost all moral authority when it backed Cardinal Law and if my Aunt who had just buried her husband hadn't been sitting next to him he woukl have heard a lot more than that

That shut him up

My family renunions are so much fun
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GuyCybershy
You r mi cro-b io is pe ndi ng ap pro val
10:32 PM on 10/06/2010
I think he should get on a plane on Nov. 3, fly to Sacremento and he and Michelle should smoke a joint with Jerry Brown on the Capitol steps. If he gets any flak he can use my favorite Nixon quote "if the the president does it its not illegal".
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Chris Weigant
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11:50 PM on 10/06/2010
GuyCybershy -

OK, I have to admit, I'd drive to Sacto to see that!

Heh.

-CW
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GregHooper
There is a God and M ~ Theory shows the way
09:35 AM on 10/07/2010
Thats a damn good idea

F&F
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Ferris J Anderson
reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated.
10:30 PM on 10/06/2010
I think a) the President has enough on his plate to worry about some potheads, and b) this can be for the President a chance to win support from libertarians and state righters who not surprisingly seem to be for the California effort. if this wins, this thing will catch fire in many, many, many states. Both libertarians and democrats can run in many non-bible belt states on this issue and reap the huge tax benefits. Blaze 'em up, puf puff, and pass it around cali...............
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Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
11:48 PM on 10/06/2010
Ferris J Anderson -

The paragraph above which begins "But at some point there's going to be a Republican in the White House..." originally ended thusly (I cut it because it was kind of off on a tangent):

"The only wild card in such a struggle would be the "tenthers," whose passion it is to stand up for states' rights (as enumerated in the Tenth Amendment, hence the name). But then politics on contentious issues always leads to some odd bedfellows, from either side."

:-)

-CW
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Rational Voice
A voice of reason in a world gone insane
09:48 PM on 10/06/2010
I've got my money on him doing nothing. He's going to ride it out like the rest of us.
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Chris Weigant
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11:45 PM on 10/06/2010
Rational Voice -

First off, compliments on your avatar, very on-topic!

Doing nothing would be OK with me, as it'd be a lot more benign than most of the other options.

-CW
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Old black water, keep on rollin'
09:43 PM on 10/06/2010
dunno..

he fought for health care while referencing the he!! his mother went through with insurance companies while fighting the cancer that eventually took her life..

so he should have come out fighting for mj by now as it has been a proven aid for those with cancer.

his silence on this issue has been just deafening but he's still the best prez ever and we're all lucky to be sharing our time here on earth with him as our president.. GOBAMA!!!
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acdad
09:16 PM on 10/06/2010
By firing one up I suppose.
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worldlyhick
09:10 PM on 10/06/2010
I hope Proposition 19 passes. The War on Cannabis would be ridiculous if it were not so tragic.

Though I have not had the pleasure of using cannabis in quite some time, I am quite passionate about this issue and was one of those who participated in the polling about cannabis legalization (and was ridiculed for it by Obama). How most Democrats (especially our President) can't get that this is a social justice and human rights issue and just muster some integrity on this issue is beyond me.
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08:37 PM on 10/06/2010
Wait a second, Chris ... at some point there's going to be a Republican in the White House!? Really?

I can't - or, perhaps, I just don't want to - imagine that particular scenario happening before the many years it will take to put this issue to bed, one way or the other.

In any event, I'm hoping this proposition passes with an extremely healthy majority - one, at least, that the president and ... ahem ... others won't so easily be able to dismiss. Besides, he doesn't have enough on his plate. :)
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Old black water, keep on rollin'
09:47 PM on 10/06/2010
fingers crossed..

the party of the clenched butts will never see the white house again!
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11:40 PM on 10/06/2010
...well, not in several lifetimes, anyway ... :)
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Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
11:41 PM on 10/06/2010
LizM -

Hey, it's going to happen at some point...

I'm hoping for 53-47 or better, myself, but will be OK with 50.01 to 49.99...

-CW
06:15 AM on 10/09/2010
We don't need 60-40 passage to send a message. The presidential election (by popular vote, not electoral) is usually within about 2% either way, and it still sends a message.

Like Chris said, .01 is more than enough. It will be extremely hard for any politician to ignore 50% of the electorate.

Marijuana law reform isn't a political, medical, or social issue. It's a civil rights issue. There are supporters in every political party, every economic group, every race, every religion, and every profession.
08:24 PM on 10/06/2010
Well we do know how a young George Bush would act ......

by vacationing a lot in California !

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joewilder
Vegetables rule
08:07 PM on 10/06/2010
Do nothing is the most likely scenario. I'd be sooo happy if this comes about. Perhaps we could get boozers and crack heads to switch to marijuana. What an improvement that would be. I have a vision of gridlock at Centinella and Olympic. "Go ahead, go first" - "No, you go first" - "No, really you go first" - "Please, I insist, you go first".