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07:19 PM on 10/13/2010
This is typical of the party of 1800s. They always always forget that the "tape" was invented.
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06:31 PM on 10/13/2010
When you see what poor quality of consciousness such people display, you can understand why they need to make their existence about economic rank; same goes for the wannabe's. I'm still waiting for an exception to the rule who can prove it in discourse.
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Brendan DeMelle
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05:42 PM on 10/13/2010
The Koch brothers and their company Koch Industries have some major explaining to do. There is a vast difference between their public statements distancing themselves from connections to the Tea Party and this fresh evidence clearly showing their key role in organizing this Astroturf 'uprising' to protect corporate interests ahead of public health and the environment.
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
11:50 PM on 10/13/2010
They won't explain a thing. They will just act like it never happened.
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LeftLeanWing
Do I Have to be Nice ?
05:30 PM on 10/13/2010
We don't even need this to prove it.......

1)
Americans for Prosperity, a 501(c)4, is actually one of two groups co-founded by Koch.
The other, the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, is a 501(c)3.

2) From the Americans For Prosperity website
http://www.americansforprosperity.org/041509-taxpayer-tea-parties-update
http://americansforprosperity.org/100510-november-coming-tea-party-headquarters-information
http://americansforprosperity.org/issues/teaparties
http://www.americansforprosperity.org/032409-new-jersey-tax-day-tea-party

3 ). The Privacy Policy
http://www.americansforprosperity.org/afp-donor-privacy-and-donor-refund-policy

4 ) The Koch family foundations were the largest donors to FreedomWorks' parent organization, Citizens for a Sound Economy, contributing nearly $13 million ...
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Kevin Grandia
Writer, researcher, digital campaigner
05:41 PM on 10/13/2010
But what Koch has said is that while they fund AFP, they do not support the Tea Party. A little nuanced for sure, but this blows away even that claim.
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samtee
Shankapotomus.
08:41 PM on 10/13/2010
Good
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Grumpy Old Dude
My screen name forms an Acronym
05:22 PM on 10/13/2010
Gee, another lying sack o' sh@t teabagger. Who da thunk it?
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Bichion
05:17 PM on 10/13/2010
I will say this again as I did a few days ago, it does not matter what these people do are the evidence that you provide against them not will change the minds of the people that are following them cause this has nothing to do with anything they claim they are for!!! This crap started 32 day after Obama was elected, these same people sat back and let a white Presidents for years run this country into the ground this is all because they couldnt handle stepping into the 21st century. Now lets stop wasting all the time and effort try to change the minds of bigot,racist and all around evil people and moblize and get out our votes!!! Or you moderates watching this crap is this not reason enough to see that these people have done nothing but try to stop this adminstration from suceeding from day one so that they could take care of their overlords!! I am sure I will not be posted cause anytime you make sense HP censor you!!! GET OUT THE VOTE!!! NUMBERS CAN BE ALL THESE DOLLARS!!! USARMY 82-92
05:15 PM on 10/13/2010
Their so called 'Grassroots' spokesmen? Really looked like 'Heartland Americans' representing 'We Lesser People'! Sure! Paid Lobbyists can afford NICE SUITS! As Dubya so eloquently once said, "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —President George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 Hardy, har, har, har!
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Grumpy Old Dude
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06:00 PM on 10/13/2010
F/F for using one of my favorite Dubya malaprop.
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Kevin Robles
comp sci major
04:57 PM on 10/13/2010
Rachel Maddow will probably been on this like stink on you know what
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Grumpy Old Dude
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05:49 PM on 10/13/2010
Rachel has been out front on this. When those on the right were laughing at her, she presented a well researched case against the Brothers Koch. Guess she gets the last laugh. Good!
04:31 PM on 10/13/2010
I have spent alot of time trying to fit in and understand TeaPublicans and found very little agreement, but my gut reaction to this cheesy youtube production is it resembled one of those fake right wing youtube video hit jobs where they are clearly fabricating a case and only giving half of the story. I got the exact same feeling when I saw the hit job on USDA, Sherrod. I don't know, but feels like part of the story behind that presentation is missing... I Hope Huffington Post did their research on this one!
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Kevin Grandia
Writer, researcher, digital campaigner
04:43 PM on 10/13/2010
The fillmmaker was there in the room filming it himself. Watch the entire documentary and see for yourself: http://astroturfwars.com/
04:50 PM on 10/13/2010
The content I have not problem believing, it is the presentation... the youtube clip resembles a cheesy conspiracy theorist piece... just saying.
04:59 PM on 10/13/2010
Yo Kev! I see that was your post, SWEET! Rephrase with all kindness and respect: I hope YOU did your homework! LOL... Where was Dick Army in all this? (see the movie, right?).
04:53 PM on 10/13/2010
Hi Tom,
I created the video for The Guardian after Suzanne Goldenberg interviewed me for her recent piece on the Koch's (see link in above post). I was there. I filmed it as part of my documentary. While perfectly entitled to think the above clip is 'cheesy', I do take issue with your questioning its factual correctness or manipulative use of editing.
Regards, Taki Oldham, director, (Astro) Turf Wars
01:33 AM on 10/15/2010
Taki - I do not doubt the contents of your documentary and do not question correctness or manipulative use of editing, I said I think the clip above was poorly done and not representative of your work. And if I would have viewed your official trailer as opposed to the youtube clip above, I would have been left with an entirely different message about your work. The trailer is excellent and the clip above is cheesy. The trailer is credible and the clip reeks of conspiracy theory. The trailer looks professionally done and the clip above looks like I made it. It doesn't feel like they are all in the same room at the same convention and appears as if it was pieced together from different events. I Don't know why they just didn't post the trailer?
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03:20 PM on 10/13/2010
What are the brands they own?
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Kevin Grandia
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03:29 PM on 10/13/2010
They own a lot, but some of the more familiar consumer products are Brawny paper towels and Dixie cups. http://www.kochind.com/IndustryAreas/forestry.aspx
04:26 PM on 10/13/2010
Go figure, both are disposable and environmentally unfriendly products.
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mogmaar
03:42 PM on 10/13/2010
This is a good resource on the economic activities of Koch, as well as the biggest facebook page targeting them: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Boycott-and-Defeat-Koch-Industries/155879361093898