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01:19 AM on 11/22/2010
Don't forget the Banker's Trust. A pretty mis-managed charity, too.
11:26 PM on 11/21/2010
George H. W. Bush's "thousand points of light in a broad and peaceful sky" seem a little dimmer tonight.
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William Brock
11:04 PM on 11/21/2010
All Charities are a scams. How long has the Cancer society been collecting money and has never found a cure for anything. Now the most popular scams are Children hospital money drives and the list goes on and on......wise up fools!!! These ponzi built organizations serve only their rich leaders, no one else..............
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Reyeshawk13
Just another lefty gun-owner
03:14 AM on 11/22/2010
My son had surgery at a children's hospital here in Dallas completely free of all expenses for us. Everything was taken care of by the hospital. You may not like charities, but at least some of them do help some of us.
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Melanie226
Former Riotgrrl & Current Jewish Suburb Mom
03:38 AM on 11/22/2010
That is such a pessimistic crock! I have been in the non-profit world for over 12 years, and I have had the honor of working for several amazing organizations that do very good work. There are always a few bad eggs in any batch, but to say charities are a scam is just plain wrong. Most charities are very responsible, and the people who work for them, myself included, accept the fact that they will make a minimum of 25% less in income than their for-profit counterparts.
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Donna1224
09:44 PM on 11/21/2010
This article is a big surprise. I have had dealings with Angel food ministries in Colorado and have never had any problems.
09:50 PM on 11/21/2010
What do you mean by "dealings" and "never had any problems?" Did you read the paragraph below the picture?
09:42 PM on 11/21/2010
You forgot Planet Aid, the yellow boxes along the road. Big scam! They make a tidy profit from your donated goods. Take a few extra minutes and give your cast-offs to Goodwill or the Salvation Army.
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iMissMollyIvins
Middle-aged, Middle class, Midwestern Populist
09:32 PM on 11/21/2010
You forgot Goldman Sachs.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
09:31 PM on 11/21/2010
note, please

PROJECT ANGEL FOOD in Los Angeles is NOT THE SCAM IN GEORGIA shown in the photo
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Mik McAllister
09:30 PM on 11/21/2010
There have been a number of disturbing trends in non-profits in recent years.

- The use of outside fundraising companies. Too much money that should be going to the non-profit instead goes to a company that often doesn't even bother educating their employees about the issues the non-profit was founded to address.

- Nepotism, while not automatically "bad" in and of itself, is often a sign that the company or non-profit was founded to line the pockets of the family.

- Copycat non-profits should be watched carefully. The number of "Make a Wish" imitators is extremely troubling, as are the plethora of veterans organizations (often with no veterans serving as employees), cancer organizations (Hey, look, we can do a walkathon once a year, even cheaper than printing money!), etc. The whole concept of competition is kind of moot when it comes to charities, why do we need so many to do the same job (especially when so many are *not* doing the job).
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janejoad
09:22 PM on 11/21/2010
Angel Food Ministries was one of the food bank suggestion given to me by my Lender, 21st Mortgage Corp. They advised us to go forage for food at churches and food banks so we could continue to pay our mortgage, rather than work at a reasonable solution to provide SOME forebearance so we could get on our feet.
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pat2 718
FOSS emergency management software developer
05:53 AM on 11/22/2010
Wow. That is seriously toxic "advice". Given what another post says about Angel Food Ministries, they require recipients to *pay* for what they get, and they overcharge. So it wasn't even a recommendation that would have helped with cash flow -- in fact, it would have hurt.
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Mik McAllister
09:22 PM on 11/21/2010
I'd like to know if some of these pictures are ones used by the charities themselves.

If they are, "Cancer Fund of America" needs to be taken out back and paddled severely. That picture is so obviously staged. How many medical professionals here would recommend a patient leave his shoes on during an MRI??? Not to mention the number of metal objects in the room.
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pat2 718
FOSS emergency management software developer
06:08 AM on 11/22/2010
That looks rather more like a CAT scan machine, no? It would be hard to get a picture from inside an MRI tube, which may not even be open on the back, but simple to take that photo from around the back of a CAT scan machine, which has an open, relatively shallow ring. There's no problem with metal for a CAT scan except for the area of the patient's body being scanned, where it might cause some unwanted scattering and degrade the image. Shoes shouldn't be an issue either.

Most of the photos looks like ordinary stock photos; some that depict the charity (like the one showing the Angel Food Ministries office) seem like news photos rather than promotional photos.
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pat2 718
FOSS emergency management software developer
06:28 AM on 11/22/2010
I take it back -- I found a number of stock photos that say they are of MRI machines taken from that direction, and some machines that do have an opening at the back of the tube. (Not like the claustrophobia-inducing machine used on me...bleah.)

But I'm still wondering if this one might be a CAT scan machine. Do you recognize it as MRI by some features of the ring?

CAT scan story: I was arranged on the moving platform, all ready to be scanned. the machine was a GE Lightspeed. The tech backed around behind the shield and said the machine would give the instructions about when to breathe. A panel at the top of the ring lit up, with a little cartoon face with its cheeks puffed out, and a chirpy voice said, "Ok, hold your breath!" Riiight. I was trying so hard not to laugh...
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foregoneconclusion
Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay
09:09 PM on 11/21/2010
#10. Government welfare
09:25 PM on 11/21/2010
Something YOU will benefit from ----- as you push for the age CHANGE of 70, if you don't already receive it. Define it as YOU wish ---- still the same.
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10:24 PM on 11/21/2010
Is anything run by the government well managed?
10:34 PM on 11/21/2010
SS is not welfare.

People pay into the fund all their lives. People who get welfare didn't pay into any such fund.
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LaurieAnn
Generation Jones INFJ
10:58 PM on 11/21/2010
For the wealthy and the corporations, yes.
08:54 PM on 11/21/2010
"Angel Food"? no surprise, after all was not Lucifer one too?
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ApprxAm
08:41 PM on 11/21/2010
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
08:39 PM on 11/21/2010
That's why the unconstitutional "faith based" office should be terminated.
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08:53 PM on 11/21/2010
Only 1 was a religious charity
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10:25 PM on 11/21/2010
By the same logic, there shouldn't be any veterans groups or groups that aim to help sick children.
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tnlcallen
08:11 PM on 11/21/2010
I'm not sure if this is the Angelfood network or not, but a year ago or so The church my family and I attended started distributing food from a charity. Basically they ordered a bunch of food boxes that contained groceries, and sold them to people in the community. They said that the boxes contained hundreds of dollars worth of food, and they only charged $150 for them. The whole thing was a bit odd, and they were selling them to people in the congegration that certainly weren't in need.
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KriTiKiT
Says"play nice"
08:16 PM on 11/21/2010
every time my grandmother recived food from them I found it was expired, the veggies rotten...  I did some research on the guy running it, and he has been to prison for embzzelment
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tnlcallen
08:21 PM on 11/21/2010
I just talked to my wife, and she told me it was angel food ministries. sounds like they are a real bunch of winners
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Mik McAllister
09:40 PM on 11/21/2010
While I have no experience with Angel Food, I'd like to inject a few facts into the discussion about charging for food boxes.

Yes, these *are* charities. What happens is they get donations and grants, and they are able to purchase food at bulk rates. By charging a lower amount (than the food is worth), the charity is able to buy more food, and combat the constant accusations of being "handouts".

In my local area, there is a food pantry/food cooperative called Bridges of Hope (they also do job training and other programs). In exchange for $25, they give about $50 worth of food, most of it pretty decent (which is a better percentage than most food pantries or even grocery stores, for that matter). IN ADDITION, the recipient is asked if they want any of the "free food" they are giving away that day, usually donated food items and donated produce.

Yes, sometimes the produce might be a bit dodgy (over-ripe or not even close to ripe). Sometimes the donated items are past expiration, mislabeled, not labeled, etc. You sometimes see items like frozen cookie dough with no instructions or ingredient label, for example.

But the fact is, most of the food is just fine, and a reasonably experienced person can figure out something to with most of it. And the recipient gets much more than they paid for.

And local charities are able to give vouchers so that poor families get the food for free.
02:58 PM on 11/22/2010
Mik,
Good observations. Most of what I have read here so far has been what "someone" said and not from personal observation. The only thing that you wrote that I would like to amend is that I have found out that Angel Food Ministries does not buy the food through grants or donations (although they will accept both), but the food is pre-paid and is delivered once a month. For my own personal satisfaction I have taken one of their menus to local stores such as Walmart and Aldis (both known for low prices) and the boxes from Angel Food come in $20-$35 less than those retailers.
I can't understand why we Americans, who are such generous givers, will so quickly nail someone to the wall because of an accusation. Remember the man who was arrested in Atlanta as a bomber during the Olympics? He was tried and convicted in the court of public opinion before it was discovered that the FBI had arrested the wrong man. I just think we should generally hold our peace before we judge someone unjustly.