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03:03 PM on 12/23/2010
"and a lot of people in the military, they're not sure the Ivy League type of student is the kind that would make a good warrior"
Does not intelligence make a good warrior too? Who will lead? Wouldn't one think that the military would want someone that can get into a tough academic college? Just thinking....
03:07 PM on 12/23/2010
Lol, watch out! Sometimes if you say things that make too much sense, people on these boards ATTACK!
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03:18 PM on 12/23/2010
Yeah, but that's only the buggs....
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03:41 PM on 12/23/2010
I'm thinking it's more along the lines of children that grew up with silver spoons wouldn't want to go get shot at and whatnot. Intelligence is less of a factor than money. Also, check your figures on how the military academies score against the same ivy league schools. You might be suprised.
02:57 PM on 12/23/2010
The crosstown schooling isn't bad, as long as they are giving you the credits, hats off to this kid for doing it without getting the credits, and shame on Yale for letting politics block education.
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02:57 PM on 12/23/2010
Whatever reasons sound most plausible, it's pretty clear that the university administration wants control over course content of ROTC training. How are civilians equipped to determine what is right for ROTC course content?

This is like Tony Perkins planning to monitor the results of DADT's effect on the military -- how does this fall under his jurisdiction?
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03:58 PM on 12/23/2010
Leaving aside your rather bizarre analogy about Perkins, a university history department is most certainly equipped to judge a course on military history, no?
11:35 AM on 12/24/2010
Getting a course from idea to classroom is a long and arduous process at universities, especially the top-tier universities. It involves a lot of interdisciplinary committee work, as well as work by the departments that will offer the courses. Academic rigor is expected of all courses. One can evaluate academic rigor even if the course is in a discipline outside one's own field, so the civilian argument isn't any more valid than asking how a professor of comparative literature can sit on an interdisciplinary committee that is evaluating new courses for, say, the history department. So, basically, the course is conceived and developed, then it goes to committee, gets tweaked, goes back to committee, etc. This usually takes a few years. I have no idea if the ROTC courses would pass academic rigor; I do know how courses move from idea to classroom. BTW: academic rigor is important because if a university offers too many "soft" courses, its accreditation and academic standing can be challenged.
02:53 PM on 12/23/2010
Most of these schools anti-descriminations policies include Transgendered students and staff. It would be a step backwards, and against their own policies, for any of them to allow the ROTC back until out Transgendered brothers and sisters are allowed to serve their country openly and proudly.
03:04 PM on 12/23/2010
Trannies are automatically disqualified from the military, uniform issues, and that type of surgery is a disqualifier.
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ludba2002
03:24 PM on 12/23/2010
i dunno. i support transgender issues, but it's reasonable to allow ROTC based on progress for LGBT generally. more ROTC = greater influence on the military culture and ultimately greater exposure overall. transgender rights will come to the forefront because of ROTC inclusion not by excluding them. Exclusion tactics are a double edged sword.
02:51 PM on 12/23/2010
Does this mean I can go into the women's barracks and shower with them now? I hope so. It discrimination if I can't.
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ludba2002
03:27 PM on 12/23/2010
you're very good at building straw men. i'm sure you'll be on a GOP ticket anytime now.
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03:49 PM on 12/23/2010
How is that a strawman argument when the reason for keeping women and men in separate showers is EXACTLY the same as with gay men or lesbian women?
11:09 PM on 12/23/2010
You're heterophobic.
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BobSF94117
03:59 PM on 12/23/2010
As soon as you're installed the proper plumbing, you're in!