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12:50 PM on 05/26/2011
Look at Pope Pedophile the Pollock and Pope Pedophile, the Crime Syndicate Nazi. They both did ok in their official duties. Condoleeza Rice should have been President of the US with Gaddafi as her 'First Lady'. They would have been surprisingly good and the US taxpayer wouldn't have been bilked for some dumbo who wants to go chase his dead great great grandfather. It's called tubby love. And its got some bite. Yum.
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Ourstorian
Free your mind and your ass will follow!
12:48 PM on 05/26/2011
There will be a cease fire as soon as Gaddafi and his crime family leave office.
12:47 PM on 05/26/2011
Funny thing.
In the last 2 1/2 years we have become a nation that feels that wars are good--killing certain people better. The protesters are gone. The lovers of our new goverment are silent.
You got your change Amerika--are you happy now?
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mark burdman
01:05 PM on 05/26/2011
NO
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Ben Berry
Walmart sucks
12:43 PM on 05/26/2011
Keep bombing, you will get him soon and he must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Justmyopinion
12:47 PM on 05/26/2011
Why ? Are you from Libya ? If not then it's none of your business.
12:39 PM on 05/26/2011
If any UScapitol was taken seige by the KKK w/ weapons in pick up trucks, wouldn`t we expect the police to fight back immediately and use force instantly?
A dangerous precedent if accepted.Gadaffi made public speeches in `o9 about trading his energy products in gold currency Wouldnt this create a crisis inthe reserve currency of the US$ or Euro when we need currency stability?
Counterparty nations want to keep the status quo of oil sold in dollars. Purchasing oil w gold would weaken those consumers who lack the gold 'to spend'.
Structural changes would empower Libya weakening others who lacked the reserve currency the gold dinar.


Isnt it true that many of the new rebel council are long time residents of the US, now taking up 'the cause' and the business of administration of selling the oil in the East of Libya to buy more weapons.

It seems like if such military and commercial activities occured here in the states mayors governors, the president would be hard pressed to defend by attacking the rebellion and freezing the sale of State assets.
If 1 million people marched on Washington DC. Obama would not step down, he would say "...see you Tea Partiers at the 2012 election."
Why is it that if 1 million people marched on any country of 5 million or 50 million should the dictator step down? Each country inthat region is a dictatorship with whom the US was very comfortable and supportive for decades as dictators.
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01:32 PM on 05/26/2011
Gibberish.
09:02 PM on 05/26/2011
You would`nt know gibberish if it bit you. Curzon knows exactly what he`s talking about and you haven`t got a clue. In the speech Gaddafi made at the UN in 2009 curzon mentioned Gaddafi did more than suggest that oil be traded in gold. Read the speech 7voiceofreason7 and shut off FOX news"
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jadl124
12:37 PM on 05/26/2011
Again, an American President will be instrumental in taking down one of the world's monsters and most destabilizing influences.
12:58 PM on 05/26/2011
some would argue that America's foreign policy is the most destabilizing force in the world...
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01:38 PM on 05/26/2011
some very confused people, yes.
09:03 PM on 05/26/2011
I`m one of them and being in the company of Rep Ron Paul and Noam Chomsky I feel comfortable with the thought!!
12:35 PM on 05/26/2011
What is different about the Libyan Spring is the gold, the oil, and that we never saw huge groups of protestors like we see elsewhere during the Arab Spring.
Where was the footage of violence against civilians by Gadaffi forces during the so-called Arab Spring?
Where is the footage of the decades of atrocities that led us to this day of reckoning?
Where is the footage of 100s of 1000s of protestors that we see in Egypt,Yemen, Syria?
what footage do we have of his war crimes and humanitarian crimes since the removal of these sanctions?
If he pledged to fight and co-ordinate with the US/Bush administration against AlQaeda, why is it that he is not entitled to defend against 'unknown' domestic and foreign rebel forces?
US, NATO, et al. thought AlQaeda was dwelling in Libya for years after 9/11 and AlQaeda mercenaries originating in Libya, entered Iraq to fight our Coalition forces in 2002, .
Almost like sub-contractors (w/o the contract)
03:31 PM on 05/26/2011
Check Youtube and you will find more than enough.
However, I doubt it will make you change your mind since you think Libyan citizens asking for freedoms after decades of tyranny are "unknow domestic and foreign rebel forces".

If I pledge to help you find your dog, is it okay then for me to beat up my wife and kids?
09:06 PM on 05/26/2011
Now this is what I call `gibberish!!!
09:05 PM on 05/26/2011
I agree again!!!
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vixter72
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12:35 PM on 05/26/2011
List of Saddam's Crimes Is Long

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Saddam Hussein was hanged for ordering the deaths of 148 Shiite men and boys in the village of Dujail after an assassination attempt there in 1982. But by the standards of his brutal rule, the Dujail killings were a relatively minor crime.


The exact number of deaths attributable to Saddam Hussein may never be known, but estimates range as high as half a million. There is evidence of more than 250 mass graves dating to his rule.


Following is a list of other crimes Saddam is accused of. The most notorious is his genocidal campaign against the Kurds in the north. The trial for those murders, and for others, will now continue with the remaining defendants.
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vixter72
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12:48 PM on 05/26/2011
Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.
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vixter72
Think for yourself
01:16 PM on 05/26/2011
Hypocrisy????
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01:39 PM on 05/26/2011
Saddam was not currently slaughtering Iraqis in 2003.
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vixter72
Think for yourself
01:00 PM on 05/26/2011
Now let me get this straight...Iraq was a dumb war....Libya involvement is smart?
03:33 PM on 05/26/2011
At least its cause was not "astroturfed"
12:34 PM on 05/26/2011
A massacre has been prevented by the NATO mission in Libya. Ghaddafi has proven that he cannot be trusted to keep his word. If NATO were to withdraw, it is certain that the massacre would be renewed. Sometimes we need to choose between evils. Lesson for the future, supporting "our bad guy" for our commercial interests is never a good idea. Business always looks at the short term. Statesman need to look at the long term.
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Libertystblue1923
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01:04 PM on 05/26/2011
Thank you for your concise, 'nutshell' eval! I completely agree with you! I am a liberal and not too fond of military intervention, BUT this guy is a rabid dog that needs to be put down! He's been given chances to leave, but Mr. Delusional sees no reason to go.
These despots ought to take a class in modern technology! The days of slaughtering the disagreeables in your own country will forever more be viewed by the world! We can't go into every country with despots, but sometimes when you shake your fist at your own people and then the world, don't be surprized when a bigger fist punches you in the mouth!
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Dec2086Lover
After all you are my wonderwall.
03:20 PM on 05/26/2011
Fanned and faved! I am a liberal just like you,and wished that the situation would never have come to this.And I am sick of those liberals who paint Gaddafi as an anti imperialist victim being targeted by bloodthirsty West.Everything has a limit,and this man clearly has caused so much destruction and has failed to keep his word.He should either leave NOW,or be killed.
09:09 PM on 05/26/2011
Apparently neither one of you know anything about what is going on in Libya other than what you`have been spoon fed by the very biased american news media. Grow up or shut up
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mark burdman
01:17 PM on 05/26/2011
Do you think a democracy will replace Ghaddafi? or will the nation remain under religous rule? You cannot be run by Islam which controls the masses and be a democracy.There has never been a democracy in a Islamic nation. Why would there be one now. Do you think the Muslim brotherhood who looks like the most likely party to take over Egypt is better then Mubarek? The whole democracy and freedom story from Obamas administration should be we want your oil,and you will get in line or we will kick the crap out of you.
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12:33 PM on 05/26/2011
Qaddafi sent his troops to ra pe the women and girls of Misrata. Repeatedly. Gang ra pe. In front of their families.

Ra pe as a policy of ter ror.

Listen if you have a strong stomach:

http://www.theworld.org/tag/05252011/

(the 8th story)
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12:34 PM on 05/26/2011
source: sunday times = newz corp (think fox)
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01:06 PM on 05/26/2011
The World is a joint product of the BBC and Public Radio International, out of WGBH Boston.

I think the report demands some serious consideration.
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01:40 PM on 05/26/2011
BBC reports it separately with its own reporter:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13502715
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Justmyopinion
12:48 PM on 05/26/2011
Link please ?
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01:05 PM on 05/26/2011
The link is just there.

Open it up and click on the 8th story.
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01:40 PM on 05/26/2011
BBC confirms:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13502715
12:30 PM on 05/26/2011
Huffpost, why are you afraid of the free exchange of information? While wouldn't the moderator post the second part of my comment about the real high stakes in play in the convenient Western and global capitalist "humanitarian intervention" in Libya? I am very surprised that you thought it appropriate to post the first part, but not the second, which is merely an observation about the media letdown on these issues... or did that touch a nerve. Also, why are you so uptight when I refer to you as "corporate-owned" in telling a commenter who asked me to keep the second part of my comment coming... meaning there is clear interest in the information? Am I really breaking any news by saying you are corporate-owned... I thought that you did that yourself earlier this 2011, no?
12:27 PM on 05/26/2011
OK Lash La Ruw, who iwas Lash LaRue? Still waiting for an answer.
12:18 PM on 05/26/2011
Nato and U.S are making a huge mistaken to prolong this war in Libya. Since Nato dropped 1,000 b-o-m-bs on Libya, the rebels have not moved and Gaddafi is still in power. The situation look like it going to drag on and become worst for thepeople of Libyan and the region. I think nato should accept the african union proposal and use it to demand certain things from the Libyan govt. There is no winning side. Nato, the rebels and Libyan army are not winning the war decisively.
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Lash LaRue
12:20 PM on 05/26/2011
Libya is a small flat country with a population of only 6 million people. It's perfectly suited for NATO aircraft. It won't take long.
12:23 PM on 05/26/2011
Hahahahaha.. your post it rediculous. If military air power is the decisive factor, the war in Iraq and afghanistan won't require U.S and nato troops on the ground. they b-o-m-b all day from the air, but someone will need to go on the ground and fight the real war. Both the rebels and nato are scary to take that risk.
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Libertystblue1923
I live to serve, I serve to live....
01:08 PM on 05/26/2011
Don't tell the Republican 'overlords!' The population of Massachusetts is only 6 million!
We'll just have to hold Scott Brown hostage!
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jadl124
12:38 PM on 05/26/2011
No Admiral, I believe we should stay this course a little longer. The guy's on his kneew. Why cause more damage than you have to?
12:15 PM on 05/26/2011
Glad its over there. Good luck camel jockeys.
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Dec2086Lover
After all you are my wonderwall.
03:24 PM on 05/26/2011
That is sick comment.
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12:15 PM on 05/26/2011
A regular defender of neoconservative war policy post this link as a credible source:

http://www.theworld.org/2011/05/the-atrocities-of-gaddafi-troops/

BBC not bad, but wait note the contributor: Anchor Lisa Mullins gets details from Marie Colvin of Britain’s Sunday Times from Misrata.

SUNDAY TIMES?

The Sunday Times is a Sunday broadsheet newspaper, distributed in the United Kingdom. The Sunday Times is published by Times Newspapers Ltd, a subsidiary of News International, which is in turn owned by News Corporation.

Ahhh, Herr Murdoch's News Corp.

Now, he's a guy who runs an objective media empire. /sarc off.