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davein fwb
12:01 PM on 05/30/2011
The real heros are the ones that didn't make it back alive.
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garylinn
Disabled USAF Veteran (God bless America)
11:56 AM on 05/30/2011
Im so glad they are honoring our service men and women and the veterans who put their life on the line for all of us to live in a free nation. God Bless America!
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12:01 PM on 05/30/2011
well said and agreed
12:37 PM on 05/30/2011
Except for the Spanish-America War, WW1, Korea, Viet Nam, our covert wars in Central America, Gulf War 1, Iraq, Afghanistan. I don't thank anyone for those wars.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
11:45 AM on 05/30/2011
I've had the good fortune to fly in a B-17 and to crawl inside one of the few remaining Lancasters.
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
11:19 AM on 05/30/2011
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"Classic Planes Honor Veterans"

How do inanimate objects honor veterans?

Wouldn't " Veteran pilots honored at Memorial Day air show" make more sense?
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The fact is people like this poster will never understand the relationship someone who DID serve has for their Planes, or in my case my Chopper. Those who NEVER wore a uniform will never understand that the Planes might have taken people to war, but they are also the thing that brought them back home. Unless you have been there, you will NEVER understand the close relationship that a Vet has for his Planes, or Chopper, or Ships.

And unless you have BEEN THERE, it is better to just keep quiet about things you have no idea what you are talking about. My chopper did not finish bringing me home thanks to enemy fire. But I am lucky enough to have a piece of the skin with the number on it hanging on my wall. That lady returned me home constantly, and for that I will always honor HER.
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11:49 AM on 05/30/2011
You are still going on about this?

I said "How do inanimate objects honor veterans?

Wouldn't " Veteran pilots honored at Memorial Day air show" make more sense? "

My point is that an inanimate object can't honor a person. You are trying to say that I do not honor Veterans. That is a lie.

"And unless you have BEEN THERE, it is better to just keep quiet about things you have no idea what you are talking about." Umm, freedom of speech sound familiar? I honor all who have served, but I do not back down from bullies who have no way of proving they have served in an online forum.

Did you know that using caps is yelling and yelling is rude and childish?
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
12:09 PM on 05/30/2011
I will repeat myself.

If you do not understand what you are talking about, it is best just to remain quiet.
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Ferrariqx
I think, therefore I am not right wing
10:39 AM on 05/30/2011
I'm curious about the "God Bless America" mantra. Is the rest of the world not worthy of being blessed?
10:47 AM on 05/30/2011
Naw,they're a pain in the kester.
11:58 AM on 05/30/2011
I was joshing with ya. The truth I'm sure is that if I was,lets say German,I say "God bless Germany,Italian,God bless Italy,Nigerian,God bless Nigeria. Its just a certain people in their own country asking for Gods blessing. Nothing more,nothing less. Quite innocent.
11:31 AM on 05/30/2011
no, and if that doesn't please you, tough S_ _ T
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10:35 AM on 05/30/2011
As a veteran of ww11 it is always a thrill to see the old ships flying. Working at NAS Pensacola back in my working days I was able to see the Blues fly at thier shows and in thier training. I have a great love for the old p-47s as they worked out in front of us doggies in the war. To hear them diving and working ahead made you feel more safe and not alone.
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10:24 AM on 05/30/2011
All the brave youngsters aboard those war planes in the 1940s were daring young men that knowing the odds were against them they would go fight for our country and Flag, some even lying about their age, and they made us all safe and proud. I knew when I saw the Marine in the big
poster outside the post office when just a kid that I would sign up and say the oath as soon as old enough, and I did. Please Honor our fallen brothers and sisters today!!!
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10:24 AM on 05/30/2011
Far more interesting than the airplanes, themselves, are the people who flew them. The WWII combat veteran is historically closed mouthed about the war and we are losing them at a very high rate, now, and many stories will never be told.

I recall watching an interview with a British Spitfire pilot, in his 80s at the time of the interview, who gave a fascinating account of how the pilots REALLY flew and fought. He always cranked in a little rudder trim so his airplane flew slightly sideways. This was enough to throw off the aim of any long range attack from the rear. Spitfire sqadrons never flew at the altitudes assigned by the controllers but added 3000 feet to it. The Germans were listening in but took a long time to figure out that the standard control lapse meant the additional altitude.

We may still have the airplanes but we are losing the people.
10:20 AM on 05/30/2011
God Bless all the men and woman who have, are and will serve in the Armed Forces of the United States of America. They are our Protectors here on Earth. Thank you.
10:32 AM on 05/30/2011
My apologies for all grammatical errors in the first sentence.
10:49 AM on 05/30/2011
No problem laff.
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xpt2wndj
socialism sucks
10:09 AM on 05/30/2011
May God Bless all of our military men and women. Thank You from the bottom of my heart.

To bad we have a commander and chief who is a "Military Joke"
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10:30 AM on 05/30/2011
Our CIC got OBL and Bush didn't. Exactly who is the joke?
10:32 AM on 05/30/2011
Your comment is entirely inappropriate on this day of remembrance.
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prestonsturges
Lights! Camera! Action!
11:18 AM on 05/30/2011
Hear! Hear! Not today, of all days!
10:00 AM on 05/30/2011
I've been fortunate to have flown in the B-17 (twice) and the B-24 operated by the Collings Foundation when they come to Trenton, NJ. What an experience. The retractable roof in the middle of the B-17 is open and you can actually stick your head out, which I have done. Awesome!! I have also flown in the T-6 trainer operated by Warbirds, Inc. It was a on e hour flight with a multitude of G-force maneuvers (shouldn't have been drinking the night before - though everything stayed where it was supposed to).
02:11 PM on 05/31/2011
Hi, Laffs, we lived about 25 miles from a training base, and I can still remember the heavy drone of those B-24's. I was always comforted knowing that there were men willing to serve, and there was no doubt in my mind that those pilots-in-training going over our heads were going to be the best in the entire world!! Boy, when those "super-sonics" came on the scene, though, they REALLY got our attention. LOL The first noise we would hear was a tremendous BOOM off in the distance after they had silently passed over our house. And, man, would the windows shake and rattle!! I suppose some people would complain about such goings on but we never heard a word of complaint - we thought it was wonderful! Anytime there was a hot spot in the world, nobody had to tell you, we knew. The plane traffic picked up immediately and went on relentlessly. Sooner or later we would hear what it was all about in the news. Great memories! Those were glorious days in the United States of America!
09:23 AM on 05/30/2011
2 years ago in mid Oct. my wife and took a walk down to the lake shore I grew up on to take pictures of the foliage on the mountains across the lake. I was watching a plane flying really low along the opposite shore, which isn't usual, there’s' small airport 10 miles down lake. What caught my attention was the size of the plane, even at 5 miles away. I couldn't hear it because the wind was east to west that evening. As we started to head back up the house, a WW2 4 engine bomber flew tree top level right over us, it was so low I didn’t see it until it passed over the tree line across the bay. It happend so fast I didn't get a picture of it. The pilot wave to us as he flew over. The plane was a one off 2 B24 Liberators flying in the country today; this one was out of Mass. Most of us won’t see anything like this in our life times.
09:08 AM on 05/30/2011
I cain't say everyone agrees with me, but a most beautiful sight to me is a sortie of A-4's takin' off wall to wall snake and nape.
10:03 AM on 05/30/2011
We have a retired Skyhawk on display at our municipal complex. It is much smaller than I imagined. Never got to see one in flight, though.
08:48 AM on 06/01/2011
faved The A-4 Skyhawk be one beautiful bird, but I guess it's time is past.. All I did was kinda' date meself wit me post.
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Leon Engelun
09:05 AM on 05/30/2011
Memorial Day = quietly being humbled by those who have served for me.
08:51 AM on 05/30/2011
I'm a lady, 80 years old, who would dearly, love to see, the Enola Gay(the plane, which dropped the A-bomb on Hiroshima) fly again. Of Course, that's wishful thinking, as it is on display at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. It's pilot, at the time, just passed away a couple of years ago, at age 92, in Columbus, Ohio. By dropping the bomb, he ended WW2.
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09:07 AM on 05/30/2011
There is only one flyable B29 in the world, today and that is "Fifi," operated by the Commemorative Air Force. Since the appropriate grade of avgas is no longer available, it flies with lowly 100LL and engine power output is nowhere near wartime limits. To avoid metal fatigue, the pressurization system is never used and superchargers are boosted to only the lowest level.

I am concerned by the slow attrition of many of these flyable WWII birds, especially Spitfires and P51s. I think, eventually, expense and the loss rate will force all of them to stay grounded.
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MancRat
My micro-bio is empty because I like it that way.
09:20 AM on 05/30/2011
Such aircraft can only ever have a finite amount of life before they start becoming a little too old and expensive to fly. The best future for them is in places like the Smithsonian, where they can spend their retirement in static preservation.
Seeing them fly is fantastic, but well cared for on the ground is the next best thing.
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09:51 AM on 05/30/2011
Remember that wartime exigencies meant that airplanes of the time were not built to have a long service life like a modern airliner is, today. In the early days of WWII, no combat B17 could expect to complete 25 missions before being wrecked, shot down, scrapped due to battle damage or made obsolete. Engines suffered even higher attrition than the planes, themselves.

For B29s, the loss rate from training missions stateside was higher than the loss rate in combat. In some aircraft, shortages of vital materials meant dangerous substitutes were used. In the case of the C47 transport, periodic aluminum shortages meant that highly flammable magnesium was used in tail cone fabrication. There is no way you'd ever want to fly in a plane built like that and a magnesium fire may have played a part in the death of Ricky Nelson, decades after the war, in a chartered civilian C47.
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Bobzmcishl
11:18 AM on 05/30/2011
George McGovern gave a good account in his book, of the hazzards of training on aircraft in WWII. Because of the need for pilots in a hurry they training approach was "sink or swim". A lot of airmen died in training accidents. Also certain aircraft like the B-24 Liberator were really unwieldy, hard to fly, and often crashed.