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maxfax
Taa - dah!
11:49 PM on 09/02/2011
Can we outsource the job of Ohio Governor and Ohio legislators?
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dlo2
MS RN
10:48 PM on 09/02/2011
This seems all about money. Something putrid about this. Then there are the private facilities for undocumented where these people languish for months. All for the profit?! Overcrowding as well...? Dear God what has become of this nation?

Today we read the memoirs of those who lived through the Civil War and one wonders about the fractured polity and harsh polemics we saw then and now, once again, in this era.
10:10 PM on 09/02/2011
Does this mean they will be recruiting people to populate prisons now? Am I to believe a private company is not interested in making a profit. This raises questions about using prisoners as laborers for work and receive minimum wages? Really, America, Really?
11:23 AM on 09/03/2011
no, those folks are called mexicans!
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Chimoch
Summer breeze, makes me feel fine......
09:56 PM on 09/02/2011
Who pays when privitized?
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Eileen Virnig
wide awake
12:49 AM on 09/03/2011
YOU and I, the tax payers pay the private, profiting companies to operate...who really PAYS? Society.
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rda1911a1
God Bless John Browning
09:47 PM on 09/02/2011
getting all these public unions off the parole will really help with budget balancing
11:24 AM on 09/03/2011
yep. just like those states that don't have public union employees (or those companies without unions). they are soo making money thus don't have budget problems.
08:00 PM on 09/02/2011
This is great, privitize punnishment for crimes, the people paying taxes does not have to pay for these idiots who decided to go and commit a crime it's a win-win for tax payers so why worry about it?
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Eileen Virnig
wide awake
12:51 AM on 09/03/2011
UM foolish Wallace...WE still will have to pay, via OUR tax dollars, except now, just like insurance companies profit from healthcare/medicare part D...private prisons will now profit from incarceration...a service does not become "free' just because it's been privatized...DUH
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ruthieriver1
constitution not institution......
07:23 PM on 09/02/2011
We will soon see many more americans incarcerated for resons that are not indicitive of incarceration, and far more media tried crimes, along with far fewer paroles and or probations, with the incentive to keep prisoners in for profit.......NOT a good thing.
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Imhotep40
He who comes in peace
09:05 PM on 09/02/2011
Welcome to the return of Pauper's/Debtor's Prisons. . . . .
05:28 PM on 09/03/2011
I am really glad people are noticing this now! It is only a matter of time before they start lobby groups to change the laws so that they can get more prisoners in their jails. Write your politicians!
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Mandles99
03:50 PM on 09/04/2011
This is already happening in America via the prison system, but I do agree, it's NOT a good thing.
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WyckedNite
Know pain, know gain.
07:22 PM on 09/02/2011
So this is, what, Prison-Mart? Like Wal-mart-come in with low prices then raise the cost after the transition has been completed? And like Wal-Mart, cost us more in the long run?

Politicians who sell this as a "good thing" are making decisions that profit them personally but harm us. You can bet that ANY politician who says "oh yeah, this is a GREAT idea," has SOME kinda personal stake in it SOMEwhere...

This is wrong on many levels--level of care goes down, correctional officers lose pay & retirement as a state employee, safety of the officers is a larger concern, cost to the taxpayer (in the long run) will increase; to say nothing of the professions affiliated with jails and prisons (ie: psychologists, teachers, administrative staff, etc).

Also, how many new committees and regulatory org.'s need to be created (costing us more money) to be able to oversee these private prisons & jails?

Which state departments will need to have their budget increased to absorb the extra cost that the state will still end up incurring? Ex.: Health dept., Edu. Dept, Sheriff's Offices, State law enforcement, etc.

Oh, and let's talk about the LAWSUITS inmates' file (for civil rights violations & abuse)....and how the number of lawsuits will increase exponentially b/c the private company cuts corners to increase profit.

The ripple effect that this type of action creates is just to far-reaching.

I guess crime DOES pay, huh?
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ruthieriver1
constitution not institution......
07:26 PM on 09/02/2011
Absolutely, and as you stated before PO's will be paid less and will not have any type of union behind them, which will also raise the danger in prison, not only for them but also the prisoners that can afford to pay off a PO for violations...
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WyckedNite
Know pain, know gain.
07:50 PM on 09/02/2011
Oh em GEE!
Excellent point on the pay offs.
I didn't even THINK about the corrupt side to PO's & CO's....which is already a HUGE problem, even with the decent pay & good benefits most currently receive under the states & counties! Imagine when that pay and--maybe more importantly--the benefits of the aforementioned get cut in the name of profit.

And on the note of unions--even state & local agencies who do not have unions normally have some type of career service board where s/he is judged by their peers if the PO/CO feels they have been wrongfully terminated. In a private prison/jail, it would be much easier to get rid of people who were whistle-blowers or just not well-liked if the unions & career service boards were not present. And the PO/CO would have no recourse other than to try to obtain help from EEOC (maybe).
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rda1911a1
God Bless John Browning
09:48 PM on 09/02/2011
you know if they just built a minefield and air dropped in food now and then for prisoners would really reduce costs
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YOKEL13
I saw a man pursuing the horizon...
08:55 PM on 09/02/2011
I agree with your post, and will add this:

Few people speak on behalf of prisoners, who should be treated like humans, not like rabid dogs. I know this post will generate the usual "lock them up and throw away the key" comments, but it is important to remember that most of the people in prison will be out some day. Do we want them to come out human, or to come out as better criminals? They will need to make a living somehow. If no one will hire them, they will return to crime. If they are not trained for a job, or cannot interact with the civilized, no one will hire them. If they are kept on perpetual "lockdown", many will come out mentally ill. Anyone who has no compassion for prisoners should remember that society at large will benefit from their enlightened treatment.
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ruthieriver1
constitution not institution......
11:41 PM on 09/02/2011
Absolutely, considering you have quite a few prisoners in for pretty simple drug charges, I know here in Oregon you can go to prison for a joint on you, some people have gone in for shoplifting and even bad checks...
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WillofthePeople
Do YOU consent to toxic govt? Change ur thinking!!
07:21 PM on 09/02/2011
Private prison corporations are BIG BUSINESS. Dick Cheney is alleged to have invested $85,000,000 in the private prison industry. Apparently it's a popular idea for republicans. Invest in prisons and then pass laws to throw people in them, even if they are not convicted of violent crimes or property crimes, like possession of a natural plant.

Little wonder how the U.S. has 25% of the prisoners in the world while only having 5% of the world's population.

Do YOU consent to private prison corporations profiting through business relationships with politicians, judges and prosecutors?

If NOT, then google "RIGHTtoCONSENT" to learn HOW to STOP IT.
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ruthieriver1
constitution not institution......
07:15 PM on 09/02/2011
The begining of "" Soylent Green""
06:36 PM on 09/02/2011
I live in Ohio. The state government is going absolutely crazy: They're having a fire sale of state owned property, they're disposing of very basic items that the people should own and control. It can only cost us more as the citizens pay the costs of running prisons AND providing profits for the companys that buy them. It's an impossible situation based on false beliefs and the mistaken idea that a private for-profit organization can do this better than our citizens. They can't. They are only people and they will make mistakes while profiteering. A prison is not a corporation: It has nothing to sell for income, it MUST be paid for by the population through taxes. Same for the turnpike: it's impossible; we sell passage on the turnpike to ourselves, now add a third party and it can only cost us more: What's the point of that??? The governor will brag how he "balanced" the budget, while we and our prisoners will eventually pay more and suffer more. Soon the state will run out of stuff to sell... then what??? In 10 years we'll be worse off than we are now; it makes no sense. This is bad, really bad...
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06:14 PM on 09/02/2011
As an Ohioan, this is great news. Once the entire state is privatized, we won't need a governor because we won't have a government. Bye, John.
06:37 PM on 09/02/2011
Love the irony, some will misinterpret, we don't get much of that around here...
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05:59 PM on 09/02/2011
OMG, this is scary. Just what is the incentive to release inmates when a prison is a private business opportunity? We will see more abuse and people held even longer.It will be an advantage for this company to keep inmates detained as long as possible.Some things need to be handeled by our government and this is one of those things. We will be seeing a special report on this very soon as it relates to abuse of prisoners, deplorable conditions, lengthy sentences, etc.
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mansterEZ
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05:55 PM on 09/02/2011
An extremely bad precedent. Blatant profiting from incarceration is government gone totally wrong and Fascist.
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MarkBoston
it's gonna take more than lipstick
05:28 PM on 09/02/2011
and so it begins ...... This is a very dangerous move against the people . There will now be a need to raise revenues ... what a slippery slope this is .