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Intelligenti Pauca
Be Seeing You
02:22 PM on 09/27/2011
Gov. Perry said that he couldn't be bought for a campaign contributi­on of $5,000. That raises the question: Is there a price at which Perry's loyalty is for sale?

Novartis has donated $700,000 to the RGA since January 2006.

Merck has given $28,500 to Perry's gubernator­ial campaigns since January 2001, according to a new report by Texans for Public Justice.

Perhaps more importantl­y, Perry's friend, former chief of staff Mike Toomey, became a lobbyist for Merck in Texas, a position he held at the time of the HPV-relate­d executive order.

Since January 2006, Merck has given $377,500 to the Republican Governors Associatio­n, which was one of the largest backers of Perry's own campaigns. Perry served as the chairman of the RGA from 2007 until last month.

In 2009, the FDA also approved the drug Cervarix, made by GlaxoSmith­Kline, which has given about the same amount of money as Merck to Perry's gubernator­ial campaigns since 2001 and nearly FOUR TIMES as much as Merck to the Republican Governors Associatio­n since 2006.

Earlier this summer, lobbyist Toomey co-founded a super PAC known as Make Us Great Again to aid Perry's presidenti­al run. According to NBC News, Toomey's super PAC plans to spend a staggering $55 million to help his man win the GOP nomination­.

If Make Us Great Again does spend tens of millions to help Perry secure the Republican presidenti­al nomination­, what might Toomey and his clients be expecting a President Perry to deliver?
09:23 AM on 09/28/2011
Well, he's just sayin' he's no two-bit, small-time criminal...

I, for one, believe him when he says that. Just look at the numbers and follow the money.
MThomasNC
Retired, Sassy, Senior Citizen
02:12 PM on 09/27/2011
Yes, Christie will come in and fizzle like Perry. They will make up lies why this is. Media is pathetic and a big joke. Most republicans (T-baggers) live in la-la land of FOX and right wing radio of lies and misinformation.
The moneyed people (big business) are waiting for a GOP to win the WH in 2012 so they can get what they have been fighting for last 30 years - absolute control of social security/medicare/medicaid in the stock market, low or no taxes, no regulations. They want to repeal HC law because $.80 on each dollar of premium payments have to be for health care.
They will push Romney. They will make him more attractive to their base since they need the base as their foot soldiers.
They have it planned and the Citizens United have made it positions.
06:29 PM on 09/27/2011
Your comment about control of our social security/medicare, etc in the stock market is spot on. I'm really amazed Americans have not seen the 401k legislation for the Wall St money-grab it was. Now our retirement is gambled on Wall St, and you have few options of where you can put your own money -- they even punish you if you want to withdraw it "early" -- and it's YOUR money.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
07:28 PM on 09/27/2011
One small problem with that master plan: Romney...is...a...Mormon. It's like expecting them to vote for Obama and forget that he is black. Never trust any man who thinks that he rules the world. The real dangers to his position are just right under his feet.
02:04 PM on 09/27/2011
Seriously, when I first heard Perry was going to run I thought it was a joke or something from 'The Onion" - Imagine my surprise.
jhNY
Mercy.
01:35 PM on 09/27/2011
Perry is still polling pretty well, even now in the long week that followed his debate performance. I predict a bounce-back for the man-- he's just too angry to be denied.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
07:29 PM on 09/27/2011
The point is that he's lost momentum. He doesn't back soon, the rest of his lead should evaporate quickly.
jhNY
Mercy.
12:06 PM on 09/28/2011
We'll both watch and learn...
01:34 PM on 09/27/2011
I do not believe that Christie will run - and the Tea Partiers and Crazed Far Right Evangelicals would seek to destroy Christie if he tried to run - but I also do not believe that means the search for "Anyone But Romney" will stop.

The most riled up, most heated, most passionate members of the GOP base cannot and will not ever accept Romney as the nominee. Romney isn't acceptable to Tea Partiers, to Conservative Christians, or to the Culture Warriors.

Those folks have already shown themselves willing to do all kinds of harm to the nation and their own GOP in order to get their way, and they'll do something far more destructive than just sit out the election if Romney is the nominee. Folks who thought nothing of having the US government default on its debt obligations will not hesitate to go All Third Party in an election, "as a matter of principle."

So even though it won't be Christie, there will still be a continuing search for the magical "Anyone But Romney" candidate.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
05:30 PM on 09/27/2011
Simon Bao
FORGET "Anyone but Romney" there are a dozen or more declared candidates that fill that bill already.
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CLOSER TO REALITY IS== "Anyone but Perry"
( all the smart guys know his Social Security Stance is FATAL and cannot be walked back)
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There HAS BEEN SOME GROWING UP in the Republican Party
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The two Mormons are no longer Radioactive because they are Mormons
They are Radioactive because they are not Right-Wing Crazy

Either one of them could be excellent Presidents
with a Democratic House & 61 Dems in the Senate

How either of them could/would govern with Republicans
. . . in control of either side of Legislature
IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE
(Repubs control House & Senate too horrible to imagine)

--- AND if either of them were to get elected Pres
They would lose the Party nomination in 4 years
11:38 PM on 09/27/2011
Yes, and so far, every single one of the "Anyone But Romney" candidates you reference has also proven to be unelectable in a general election. So that expansive field of GOP candidates continues to be largely irrelevant to the GOP establishment.

I don't believe Mormons are radioactive, but many in the GOP establishment do. No one takes Huntsman's Mormon faith seriously, as no one takes Huntsman seriously. It's only Romney for whom Mormonism is a serious issue.

And it IS a serious issue for a large section of the GOP's most reliable base - far-right Christian evangelicals. Without whom the GOP believes it cannot win in 2012, and without whom it will surely lose seats in both the House and Senate.

The 2012 nominee isn't just about winning the White House, that nominee is also about turning out the base and ensuring success in Congressional races.

Romney also happens to be seen as toxic by the Tea Partiers and all the Culture Warriors. That's why, although the GOP establishment would be fine with Romney as the nominee, they know the party's base won't be.

And their search for "Anyone But Romney" continues.

Christie is the wrong person for them to be calling up 24/7, however. Tea Partiers, evangelicals, and Culture Warriors will hate Christie more than Romney.
01:15 PM on 09/27/2011
Ron Paul makes great points and has a consistent record. Can we say that about any other candidate? Why do we want to choose someone who sounds the same as everyone else and not a guy like Ron Paul, who is honest and trustworthy?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjRcO1Sm0HU
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Awake-and-Sing
Named after a great play by Clifford Odets
01:39 PM on 09/27/2011
The corporations who feed at the trough due to Republican policies won't allow Ron Paul anywhere near the nomination.
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ekstatik
Granfalloon-free!
01:55 PM on 09/27/2011
Honest, trustworthy, and nuts.
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Gudrun
My micro-bio is empty
01:13 PM on 09/27/2011
Republicans do not have a chance of electing another president until they cultivate some leaders nationally who are politically more moderate than this crowd we are looking at now. That won't happen as long as the Tea Party is calling the shots, because they will not stand behind a moderate. End of story.
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
02:30 PM on 09/27/2011
As long as they have to continue to ride the anti-intellectual theme they'll not be able to shift gears. The Tea Party is now an albatross that prevents them from growing while providing them the necessary base and funds to make a challenge. 

Guys like Buddy Roemer who seem actually sane and thoughtful are completely ignored. Ron Paul is perhaps got enough _crazy_ but he's _crazy_ in a different way, not one the Tea Party necessarily buys into.
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Gudrun
My micro-bio is empty
02:35 PM on 09/27/2011
I was going to mention Buddy Roemer in my post. It's a shame he can't get much attention.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:26 PM on 09/27/2011
Rick Perry's troubles all surround 1 issue, immigration.

When he first started running, everyone said he's the Tea Party guy, but I kept trying to tell people the Tea Party has huge issues with him being soft on illegal immigration.

If he would come out and support using EVerify for all US jobs he would win easily.
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Awake-and-Sing
Named after a great play by Clifford Odets
01:40 PM on 09/27/2011
Until the 30-second spots on Social Security starting airing.

Rick Perry was never the "white knight of the right" that many conservatives had been hoping for.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
05:50 PM on 09/27/2011
Charles
He could ride out immigration

BUT NOT HIS SOCIAL SECURITY POSITIONS
and it is no longer possible for him to walk-back those SS statements
FreeHat
Really?
12:20 PM on 09/27/2011
The article suggests Perry just needed more time and he could have done better at the debates. Any leader worth their name should be able to come to these debates with out any preparation and handle it well. The questions at this stage are very soft after all.

Also, I hope the audiences at these debates don't represent the majority of people who would vote against Obama - I'd like to think they were bused in for their reality show type qualities.
02:01 PM on 09/27/2011
At the last GOP/TP 'debate' it looked like they borrowed an audience from The Jerry Springer show.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
12:19 PM on 09/27/2011
I am still holding out hoping the insanity and depravity of the base will win out over moderation and intelligence.
01:19 PM on 09/27/2011
But that's not good for America.

Choosing a President should be HARD. It shouldn't be a slam dunk, for any but the most extreme (i.e. those who have to hold their nose and vote for the least unsavory candidate, because he's on their side but NOT FAR ENOUGH). What's best for America is having two (or more) competing views that both have solid merit... and that the people use all of their abilities to pick the best one.
jhNY
Mercy.
01:37 PM on 09/27/2011
That would be best, but that's not what's happening now.
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Jim NLN
Hillary-Frank 2016
03:25 PM on 09/27/2011
Yeah, I know what you mean, I want Palin to run so bad it hurts.
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shawshank
The unseen ones prop up the visible world...
12:18 PM on 09/27/2011
No more election talk please. I want to believe there are things going on in this country that demand more immediate awareness.
FreeHat
Really?
12:21 PM on 09/27/2011
Inform HP to ignore the elections then.
02:02 PM on 09/27/2011
OK, if you say so.
12:18 PM on 09/27/2011
It is interesting to note that supporters of both parties are easily disillusioned because they don't understand how corrupt Washington is and they foolishly believe the campaign rhetoric of the candidates. If we continue down the path of austerity we will be in for a decade long collapse much like what happened in Japan. Christie probably has a better chance of being elected president than hhe has of being re-elected governor.
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yweston
We Won!!!! So Get Over It....
01:37 PM on 09/27/2011
New Jersey's credit rating was Downgraded last month from AA+ to AA-.
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Jim NLN
Hillary-Frank 2016
03:26 PM on 09/27/2011
The NY loan sharks still rate them as AAA with a bullet!
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
06:00 PM on 09/27/2011
Dutchess:
WASHINGTON IS AS CORRUPT AS WE MAKE IT


WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Zip_Zinzel/john-boehner-jobs-speech-obama-plan_n_964587_108109325.html
dollyfedup
well behaved women seldom make history
12:03 PM on 09/27/2011
The media is spending all their energy speculating on a possible Chris Christie Presidential run. The problem is: we can't get any real news--only speculation, scandal, marketing of books, rumor and Obama bashing. This is what makes up the MSM today.

Herman Cain can't see the forest for the trees. He thinks that he's one of "The blacks" they like. I wondered if he noticed how much attention the media DIDN'T give him after winning the Florida straw poll. The media and the republican party wanted to focus their energies on Rick Perry and if they can get Chris Christie to enter the race. Cain will soon realize that he can continue to be paid as a GOP token but they will always treat him like an "Invisible Man" --the same way they do our current President.
01:47 PM on 09/27/2011
And then he'll take a job as a FOX correspondent, and the cycle will be complete
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Mikel Moore
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02:38 PM on 09/27/2011
great reference to the Ellison book and highly applicable.
dollyfedup
well behaved women seldom make history
07:00 PM on 09/27/2011
Good to see we have a well read person posting who was able to identify the book I was alluding to. I wasn't sure if anyone would notice. Thanks for letting me know that you did!!!!
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Carl Caroli
I just don't understand people
11:49 AM on 09/27/2011
Christie wouldn't appeal to teabaggers anymore that Romney. The GOP has let the ugly out of the box and now can't get it back in.
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Intelligenti Pauca
Be Seeing You
11:47 AM on 09/27/2011
Wondering what a Rick Perry presidency might look like?

Let's use Texas, the state he's been "governing­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­" for the last 11 years, as a microcosm.

Percent of Uninsured Children - 1st
Percent of Population Uninsured - 1st
Percent of Non-Elderl­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­y Uninsured - 1st
Amount of Carbon Dioxide Emissions - 1st
Amount of Volatile Organic Compounds Released into Air - 1st
Amount of Toxic Chemicals Released into Water - 1st
Amount of Recognized Cancer-Cau­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­s­­­i­­­­n­­­­g Carcinogen­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­s Released into Air - 1st
Amount of Hazardous Waste Generated - 1st
Number of Executions - 1st
Percent of Population with Food Insecurity - 2nd
Percent of Children Living in Poverty - 4th
Percent Living Below Federal Poverty Level - 4th
Amount of Toxic Chemicals Released into Air - 5th
Percent of Population with Employer-B­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­a­­­s­­­­e­­­­d Health Insurance - 48th
Percent of Population 25 and Older with a High School Diploma - 50th
Per Capita State Spending on Mental Health - 50th
Percent of Non-Elderl­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­y Women with Health Insurance - 50th
Percent of Pregnant Women Receiving Prenatal Care in First Trimester - 50th
Workers’ Compensati­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­o­­­n Coverage - 50th

That's what America has to look forward to if Perry ever gains the White House.
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
02:25 PM on 09/27/2011
But ...but...taxes are low! 

And let's not forget that they take 148 billion a year in federal spending while contributing only 146b in taxes.