We Have No Standing to Complain About Election Fraud

Who are we to gripe about Iran's arguably rigged election? We most likely elected the wrong guy in 2000.

If the Supreme Court had not hastily short-circuited the Florida recount, we might know for sure whether another tally could have confirmed what we now know to be true -- that most of the state's voters really intended to elect Al Gore. Or we might have seen some meaningful scrutiny of suspiciously late-arriving military overseas ballots that actually delivered George W. Bush's last-minute margin of victory.

Under the circumstances we probably ought to leave the outrage about Iran's questionable balloting to nations with a better established record of putting the real winners in office.

Craig blogs daily at craigcrawford.com on CQ Politics

Comments

[Katie101622]

Agreed, the 2000 version of American democracy was a sham and an embarrassment for us. But is that reason enough to promote silence to what is going on in Iran right now?

Standing up for Iranian justice means standing up for justice in general. We need a lot more of that in this country, and holding our "gripes" about extra-continental injustice does us all more harm than good.

[OzzieSmerck]

IF ONLY Americans had summoned the courage to march on Washington in these numbers back in 2000. Think of all the mindless destruction to the world and to our country that could have been avoided had we REFUSED to accept the fraudulent elevation of Bush to the presidency. History will surely piss on the graves of all those involved in that theft of our democracy, but it will also mourn that we stood for it all. Millions should have stormed the capital, and EVERY democratic senator should have stormed the well of that chamber to halt the acceptance of the illegitimate electoral college votes from Florida. The Iranian people have put us to shame.

[JohnFromCensornati]

Al Franken. Enough said.

[Doofus]

Iran, being a democracy, even a peculiarly sectarian democracy, has the
right, even the responsibility, to choose their own government, to make
decisions about how that's done. It's up to them to sort it out. Period.

Just as our peculiar inconsistencies in this area are our own responsibility.

[realpolitic]

Craig, you are right as usual. MSNBC should give you your own show. It would be great!

[TruthIsAll]

Craig,

All I can say is IT'S ABOUT TIME that someone in the main stream media said this.

Now, if you could just get your buddies Keith and Rachel to talk about this:
http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/ConfirmationofPollingElectionFraud.htm

Everyone should read the book on 2004:
http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/FurtherConfirmationOfaKerryLandslide.htm

Finally, this transcript of a very interesting conversation about the 2008 election:
http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/Conversation2008.htm

[Carolab]

Yay! TIA is in da house! Still posting at DU?

[SamEllison]

I don't remember any Americans being beaten on the streets of our cities while protesting that vote.

Then again I don't remember any Americans being on the streets of our cities protesting that vote.

[RoloTomassi]

Both good points; however, in to my way of estimating the responsibilities of an informed electorate in a supposedly democratic-based system, the Iranian people's actions and reactions appear to be more in line with such an electorate's response to a close election than our own sheep-like complacency and easy placation.

[clevelandchick]

No but if you saw the footage from the day that Dubya was supposed to make the walk to the White House after being inaugurate­d....most likely you didn't unless you saw Fahrenheit 9/11 or lived in the DC Metro area. The MSM kept it on the down low. The DC streets were packed with protesters­...Bush couldn't make the walk because people were throwing eggs.

Just about the time Bush became Prez....th­e media stopped covering protests and/or started downplaying them.

[Zanti]

And they will shilling for him even before that point. You may recall that many of the (non-Fox) TV talking heads were vilifying Gore at every opportunity, as if determined to give Bush the White House. Later, they denounced Bush for the false Iraq intel, etc. It's as if they don't even remember the cheer-leading they did for Dubya. Many of us do, however.

[AntiRethuglican]

If there were any protests you would not have seen them because the MSM was not providing any appreciable coverage of what was really happening~

[TruthIsAll]

Craig,

So true about 2000 But everyone knows that was stolen. Why don't you go all the way and talk about the ENDEMIC U.S. ELECTION FRAUD?

The mainstream media has been avoiding the issue of election fraud since the 2000 selection. Instead, it has promoted these myths: Bush won Florida and defeated Gore in 2000; the GOP captured the Senate in 2002; Bush defeated Kerry by 3 million votes in 2004; the Democrats won 30 GOP House seats in 2006; Obama won by 9.5 million votes in 2008. None are true. The media does not want the public to know the truth about GOP 2000-2008 election fraud. It’s understandable since the media commissioned most of the pre-election polls and the National Exit Poll. Therefore it never investigates statistical anomalies in the polls or other facts that point to massive election fraud.

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/MediaElectionFraud.htm

[Democrab]

I'm sure Iran won't be inviting the Miami-Dade Election Reform Coalition over for consultation. But I bet they wish they could.

[Marnie1]

They only need one person. Scalia.