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To Ask or Not to Ask?

Posted: 10/04/11 02:43 PM ET

In this very progressive and independent society many aspects of traditional wedding planning have been not only dropped by the wayside, but they've been shot, run over, disemboweled, burned at the stake and buried, never to be heard from again.

So with that being said, is it still traditional, or, for that matter, appropriate for the groom-to-be to ask for the father-of-the-bride's "blessing" before he asks his love to marry him? It used to be considered "asking permission," however, that has become very controversial for some very obvious reasons. Brides are, on average, older these days and are completely independent and self-sufficient. The thought that their groom must ask their daddy for permission is not only offensive, but it can put the groom between the proverbial "rock and a hard place" if he does do it.

Here's the deal: we all come from different backgrounds and traditions and have different relationships with our parents, so there is no easy answer to this. To all the brides out there: being aware of how important your father feels this tradition is and sharing it with your fiancée is critical. For many, asking the father-of-the-bride for his "blessing" is a sign of respect and, more importantly, it is also a great way to establish a good relationship with your father. Try to put aside your ego for just a minute and think of it as a great opportunity for your groom to start off on the right foot with your dad. Be thankful that he respects your parents enough to keep them included.

To all the grooms: If you choose not to speak to your future father-in-law before you propose, be aware that it can cause a lot of hard feelings and lead to some very awkward get-togethers and holidays. It is important to approach this as a sign of respect and remember this will be your very first experience as your bride's future husband. If you think this is hard, buckle your seat belt, it's going to be a bumpy ride!

I have seen both sides of this issue. In fact, when sitting in a recent business meeting, I realized just how split people are about this tradition. One father said he would be furious if his soon-to-be son-in-law neglected to ask for his blessing. He considered it hugely disrespectful to be one of the last ones to know. However, his wife added that their daughter would basically shoot her fiancé' if he asked "permission." Think of the position that this puts the groom in. Who does he choose to disappoint? Frankly, he is in deep trouble whichever way he goes.

I have personal experience with this subject. After dating for four years, the love of my life proposed to me on the beach. After popping the question he casually told me he hadn't told my father yet.

"Houston, we have a problem!"

The following two years of our engagement were pretty tough. Coming from a very close, traditional Catholic family, my father was very sensitive about being the head of the family and all the responsibilities that it entailed. I was the oldest of four children and the first to get engaged. I was trailblazing new ground and, evidently, I didn't do it correctly.

The entire two years of our engagement were very tense, all because my husband had not honored this one very simple tradition. I had an incredibly close relationship with my father. He always said we were "cut from the same cloth." So he felt betrayed and disrespected when my fiancé didn't ask him prior to proposing. I am happy to say, however, that the day of our wedding, everything returned to normal and we all have a fabulous relationship. Besides, we gave my parents 10 grandchildren -- how can they not be happy.

I have come to realize in my profession that there are two sides to this story. While my father was very traditional and expecting to be the first one to know, my husband's family was the complete opposite. In fact, his parents were probably two of the last people to know. They considered it our business. Every family has their own expectations and rituals.

Weddings bring out everything from joy and excitement to stress and all out war. Whether you choose to ask or you don't, ALWAYS think of everyone involved and be as considerate as possible. It makes the wedding planning more bearable and the future family events a lot more enjoyable.

 
In this very progressive and independent society many aspects of traditional wedding planning have been not only dropped by the wayside, but they've been shot, run over, disemboweled, burned at the st...
In this very progressive and independent society many aspects of traditional wedding planning have been not only dropped by the wayside, but they've been shot, run over, disemboweled, burned at the st...
 
 
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10:41 PM on 10/08/2011
When my fiance and I were getting serious I told him that if he asked my father for "permission" then my response when he asked me would be "no way in hell". Any man who is willing to treat me as property is no longer welcome in my life. This isn't my father's marriage and it isn't my father's call.
12:15 AM on 10/06/2011
why do brides wear virgin white, when most do not deserve the right?
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G Lang123
07:38 PM on 10/05/2011
I "asked" my pops in law, but the conversation was basically him advising me on what it means to be married...I just think its a matter of respect, I spent alot of time around my in laws before we got married, so it just felt right to let them in on my plans...............
08:55 AM on 10/05/2011
Marriage is an institution. For better or worse. While asking a father for a daugther's hand has creepy sexist implications, declaring your intentions to your intended parents before you pop the question is respectful. The rules and guidelines are somewhat daunting, BUT can avoid a whole bunch of hurt feelings and ill will. I natter more on the subject here: www.heresheisboys.com
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MrBiggs
Inconceivable!
08:34 AM on 10/05/2011
Its a matter respect. If you don't care what her parents think then don't do it. If you actually care about their feelings then ask them. Its up to you. It's sort of like holding a door open for someone, some people do it and others don't.
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Dan Kreutzer
08:20 AM on 10/05/2011
Asking to marry,like giving the bride away---all remnants of when were property of men to be sold and traded to other men
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MrBiggs
Inconceivable!
08:36 AM on 10/05/2011
Women were property sold and traded? Are you thinking about slaves? I don't remember learning about the live auctions where women (specifically) were sold and traded as chattel. Please enlighten me. . .
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IndependentBadger
08:17 AM on 10/05/2011
Anybody who gets offended by this is a thin-skinned idiot who doesn't deserve a hubby in the first place. When I had that chat with my father-in-law, I was nervous as hell for like ten minutes, even though we both love and respect each other greatly. By the way, don't be an idiot by leaving out your mother-in-law. Approach her first and tell her that you have something "important" you'd like to discuss with her husband. They love that crap. And looking back on it, the father-in-law can feel just as awkward as you do. Just man up and do it. Wedding officiants, vows, and bridesmaids dresses are pretty annoying too. Deal with it. Life requires all sorts of ridiculous traditions to differentiate it from existence in a hive.
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PTAOfficerforObama
A micro bio is a terrrible thing to waste.
07:57 AM on 10/05/2011
My daughter-in-law did not want her father asked and she also eschewed the giving away. She said she is not a goat to be given away. A relative asked he dad how he felt about that. He said I raised my daughter to be a strong independent woman. She has chosen a great life mate. Why should I care.
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IndependentBadger
08:21 AM on 10/05/2011
It's a harmless tradition. It's no more sexist than walking a daughter down the aisle, or wearing a white dress. What's the big deal either way? My sisters and mother are the strongest women I ever heard of or met, and they didn't shatter into porcelain shards when they participated in these traditions. Respect is also about honoring strangers traditions too.
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MrBiggs
Inconceivable!
08:31 AM on 10/05/2011
Is it wrong to actually care though?
10:45 PM on 10/08/2011
It's wrong to force someone who feels strongly into something they don't want. If the symbolism and history of it really bothers you though it's only being authentic to insist it not take place.
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h23154
07:54 AM on 10/05/2011
It's a personal matter and, frankly, no one's business but the people involved. If this is something that would offend the bride to be and the groom to be does not know it by then, the marriage is probably a bad idea. I would think in most cases they have already discussed it and the only issue is whether or not dad is a traditional kind of guy and would appreciate the show of respect.
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IndependentBadger
08:21 AM on 10/05/2011
Amen.
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asdusty
Free Bradley Manning!
07:45 AM on 10/05/2011
There was a girl. I loved her deeply. I asked her father if I could ask for her hand. He said yes. I asked her to marry me. She said yes. Joy. A month later she broke it off. I was devastated. Her father told her that he wouldnt support the marriage. She had to choose between me and her parents. She chose her parents. Never again will I ask for permission.
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IndependentBadger
08:22 AM on 10/05/2011
If she really loved you she wouldn't have hid behind her "family". Asking for her hand didn't doom anything. You're confusing a symptom with a cause.
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see-ellen2001
07:33 AM on 10/05/2011
The traditional wedding is an extension of this practice. The father "giving" his daughter to another man. Nice that more and more people have both parents or none or another person walk the aisle with them.
07:32 AM on 10/05/2011
It is a nice tradition: one in which the father should not hesitate to say "Yes" if he is the least bit wise.
07:29 AM on 10/05/2011
I think the groom should gauge how close a relationship the father and daughter has. My husband asked both my parents without even telling me until years into our marriage. When I did find out I was touched that he had recognized that my parents and I have a close relationship and chose to honor that.
While, this isn't a tradition that everyone will find important, to those of us who are "daddy's little girl" it really means also.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:17 AM on 10/05/2011
It depends upon one's culture.

My daughters would not think of marrying without my approval.

That is due to respect for our opinion.

For others it is a religious thing.

Seriously, young people should get to know each others families and should

consider the opinion of their loved ones in making one of life's biggest decisions.
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IndependentBadger
08:24 AM on 10/05/2011
You make a good point. People get all hiug up on the PC surface descriptors of the act, and forget that essentially it is a request for an opinion from an elder. In this case, the elder(s) most centrally affected by the marriage decision in the first place.
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CabCurious
green green green
07:11 AM on 10/05/2011
Asking the father for his blessing is one of the most wonderful traditions we have.

Thankfully, we can opt to ignore it. :)

But as a tradition, it symbolizes a respect for building trust and support within an extended family, rather than just pretending marriage is about "modern love between two people." The tradition obviously has its limits.
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CabCurious
green green green
07:13 AM on 10/05/2011
And i think this tradition implies asking a mother for a blessing, if that's more applicable.

Or, asking BOTH parents.

The point is that a groom is making a good effort to ask for their blessing, especially in a case where the bride would appreciate that blessing.