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Pro Occupy Wall Street; Against a 2-Tiered Society

Posted: 11/02/11 04:46 PM ET

"Majority rules." That is a concept that every child grows up with. When you were trying to solve a schoolyard dispute or pick a TV show with your siblings, you knew that "majority rules." So how is it we now live in a society where 1% rules?

Yes, I am the 99%. The odds would predict that. Yes, I feel that Occupy Wall Street speaks for me (read their minimal "mission statement") -- to the extent that OWS is going out of its way to not have positions and not speak for anyone except to say that everyone needs to have a voice that is heard and a vote that counts -- not just lobbyists representing the interests of the rich and global corporations (who are NOT people, too).

Critics complain that there is no list of demands. I like that. If there were a long list, maybe I'd agree with some and disagree with others. But if there is just one overarching demand -- that our government needs to fairly, justly and equally represent its citizens and, by doing that, its citizens can fairly, justly and equally have a voice in putting forth new ideas and the ability to fairly, justly and equally vote for or against them. I am 100 percent for that

Americans are not naive. We know that it is better to be rich than poor -- for so so many reasons. And the rich, like the poor, will be with us always. We know that there are advantages built into the system for the rich and powerful (that is the definition of "powerful"). That is reality and Americans accept that. But the discrepancy between the rich (and powerful) and the rest of us has grown to an unhealthy, unproductive and harmful size.

A strong, healthy and large middle class is a very good thing -- not just for those who are in that middle class. A strong, healthy and large middle class means a strong, healthy and large group of consumers, taxpayers, volunteers, workers, teachers, police, small business owners, renters, home buyers, etc. It is good for America. And good for the idea of America.

It is great to be rich and it is great that Americans should all feel that this is something they can attain. But it is even more important that all Americans feel that they can attain middle class status. And not a new, "downsized" view of middle class but the traditional view -- people who, through hard work and fiscal responsibility, can own their own home, have one or two cars, send their children to college and are able to endure a medical crisis without bankrupting themselves.

The unfairness of our current system is depressing and staggering. Whichever area you pick -- health care, criminal justice, financial/taxes -- the rich have it so much better than not just the poor (which is not shocking) but the middle class (which should be shocking). And not for the obvious reasons -- because they have more money - but because of how the system is stacked in their favor (and against the rest of us). This clear and prevalent unfairness is finally getting a lot of attention. Great recent examples: Arianna Huffington's "Lessons from Spain," Rachel Maddow's show on Wall Street's culpability without accountability , Politifact's "fact-checker" article on income inequality, Thomas Friedman's NYT column on Citigroup's "non-admission" of guilt, Matt Taibbi on Rolling Stone about winning vs. cheating.

What I hear Occupy Wall Street saying is "We will follow the rules. But let's make the rules fair." The system is rigged. It wasn't designed to be rigged but has bit-by-bit, step-by-step, become rigged. Sadly, when there seemed to be a booming economy, we didn't pay that much attention. But now that so many more people are struggling and disenfranchised, we have suddenly woken up, seen how unjust the system is and said "What???? This is wrong!" The argument can (and should) be made that the poor and minorities, in America and across the world, have experienced this inequality for a long time, that the "99%" is a little late to this party and that, only once the American middle class has been affected, have they decided to act. But better late than never.

 
"Majority rules." That is a concept that every child grows up with. When you were trying to solve a schoolyard dispute or pick a TV show with your siblings, you knew that "majority rules." So how is...
"Majority rules." That is a concept that every child grows up with. When you were trying to solve a schoolyard dispute or pick a TV show with your siblings, you knew that "majority rules." So how is...
 
 
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Rogelio Lopez
11:55 AM on 11/04/2011
I support the movement but if nobody steps up to be the voice of the movement, I really see it just dying out. Please organize and get someone to be the voice and enough with the secret society hand gestures.....
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den1953
The best politicians are for free!
08:43 AM on 11/04/2011
How do you equalize the system you change your shopping habits and stop supporting those greedy Wall Street companies by consumer demand and supply regulations, in other words thousands if not millions stop buying products from those who want to rig the system~!
09:00 AM on 11/04/2011
The corporations already have all of the support they need through government regulation and taxation. It isn't realistic to think that people can stop spending money at these locations. We are a consumer based society now. They money that a worker makes at corporation A is money that a worker will spend at corporation A.
08:10 AM on 11/04/2011
Educate yourself, get a job, save money and invest wisely. This is one way to, and possibly through, Middle Class. Is this too much to grasp for our "twenty-nothing", "I want it all now" culture. My twenties consisted of three jobs, a child, an apartment and a wife who was working during the day and continuing her education at night. I see todays "twenty-nothings" with an Iphone, an Ipad, living in their parents basement and looking for their next instant fun fix, ie; party, concert, protest, etc.
08:52 AM on 11/04/2011
Sounds to me like you are generalizing. It is obvious that you don't think highly of this generation, which I'll add, includes war heroes. Do you think that our veterans should be able to find good paying jobs? What jobs are those exactly? In every city in America the manufacturing/industrial jobs are leaving.
Telling people to "stop whining and get a job" in this economy begs the question because it's like telling 100 people sitting around 53 slices of pizza to each take a slice. There simply aren't enough slices. And if all 100 people did manage to each get a slice from that pizza, it means they had to cut those 53 slices into 100 pieces. I bet the 53 people who would have otherwise gotten a whole slice would be extremely unhappy that their slices got reduced by nearly half, but that is what they are asking. On the other hand, the Occupiers are fighting to be allowed to make a pizza with 100 slices, rather than having to divvy up those few existing slices between everyone.
The 53% really don't want the other 46% to be taking parts of their slices, they want those 46% to get their own slices. That's what the 46% want, too. Except the Occupiers want all 99% to be able to make bigger slices all around.
So why are the 53% telling the others, essentially, to take their slices from the 53%'s share? No one really wants that, do they?
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Michael D Ballantine
Former Presidential Candidate - Amer Elect 2012
12:51 AM on 11/04/2011
What rules should we be following? The rules of the 1% or the rules of the 99%. I think you are assuming that the 99% are willing to continue to play by the rules if they believe there is fairness. That is not true. The OWS movement is in the process of changing the rules, this is a peaceful revolution in the making, and when it is over, there will be a new rule book in Washington.
03:46 AM on 11/04/2011
What do you mean peaceful revolution?? Have you seen what been going on in Oakland?
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Michael D Ballantine
Former Presidential Candidate - Amer Elect 2012
04:47 AM on 11/04/2011
There are 100 occupy movements. Oakland is the aberration, not the norm. OWS is non-violent, no guns, no car burnings, no looting. That is a peaceful revolution.
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
01:24 PM on 11/04/2011
The Oakland police have always been violent. You may be unfairly tarring the protesters.
11:38 PM on 11/03/2011
Thanks Cynthia. Well said! You are definitely saying what I have been thinking.
11:04 PM on 11/03/2011
We the citizens have allowed our government to regulate and tax us almost into bankcruptcy. So one other thing we need to do is not allow government to pass regulations that effect the citizens (we could vote on thase too. I would bet that the number of voters would skyrocket. We have the technology, now lets use it resposibly!
Hopefully Americans will start a new movement and call it "KISS" (Keep It Simple Stupid). I believe that politicians and corporations alike will oppose it vehemently because it will force issues into the light or to be hidden. But with the simplicity concept anything hidden will effect any thing in the open. Think about it!

Hopefully Americans will start a new movement and call it "KISS" (Keep It Simple Stupid). I believe that politicians and corporations alike will oppose it vehemently because it will force issues into the light or to be hidden. But with the simplicity concept anything hidden will effect any thing in the open. Think about it!
07:04 AM on 11/04/2011
we have not been taxed or regulated into poverty. if you want to life in a society where environmental and safety regulation and minimum wage laws do not exist then move to a third world country. and enjoy the lack of clean water, garbage collection and safety requirments for workers. i for one do not want to go back i just left iraq after 3 years and can tell you that is one reason that america is bankrupt. billions of dollars wasted. i am an american but am currently living in kenya hoping to help the kenyans grow a decent society with environmental and safety regulations to protect the people. keep it up keep destroying the progress america made in enviromental qualtiy and enjoy watching american descend into a third world country.
11:03 PM on 11/03/2011
The voting process in this country is antiquated­. Originally votes were delivered by horseback and the powers in charge found that in our democracy that was too slow. As a wise move they introduced the Electorial College. This was good when informatio­n moved so slowly!
The only way the citizens of this country are going to be able to truely run our country is to require that we vote in our representa­tives district on each and every issue and require our representa­tives to then vote the will of their constituen­ts. In earlier times there were less than a million people that were represente­d and the constituen­ts actually talked to their representa­tives. And to those that say it would slow things down too much in Washington­, please remeber that it took 13 years to agree on the original Constituti­on.

By forcing our representatives to do what their constituents want through the power of the vote, lobbiest would basically have to go to the people to get their way and that would not be cost effective. This would reduce the corruption that is now evident in our politics. To further reduce corruption term limits should be put in place for all political offices (this should also include all appointed offices and party member workers) and there should be no retirement. Beware though, political parties and "professional" politicians will fight this as hard as they can. With these measures The politicians power would be reduced to the will of their constituents.
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Richard Genco
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dporterdvd
Progressives won 1890-1920. Time to win again.
09:37 PM on 11/03/2011
Great article.

Bumper sticker for 2012: GOP = Greedy One Percent

Since the GOP predominantly favors the 1%, voters should stop voting for the GOP so that the GOP will fade out like the once powerful Whig party did in the 1850s.
09:10 PM on 11/03/2011
In the old days someone would come to your office with an envelope stuffed full of money. He did this so you would do what he wanted. Today we have K Street and lobbyists, 28 to every lawmaker, who come around and tell those making the laws what they want. Payments are made in ways that are hard to decipher. What's the difference? Organized corruption is less blatant now. The similarities? Everyone involved in the process is crooked as the day is long.
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Opposition Research
Studying the enemies of civil liberty for 20 years
06:33 PM on 11/03/2011
Good article.

Though their less articulate voices don't always express it well, the core issue is less about rich and poor than it is about right and wrong.
06:21 PM on 11/03/2011
As long as the lower tier is only occupied (TM?) by one person, or 1% of people, it's fine, right?

It's better for only one person to get ripped off while the others 'rule'?

Is that what you're saying?
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SonOfUgh
Your micro-bio is empty
09:32 PM on 11/03/2011
That is an amazing leap of logic (well, let's call it logic for sake of argument). Where does the author argue that a lower tier of 1% of people should be getting ripped off?
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01:04 AM on 11/03/2011
"...Matt Taibbi on Rolling Stone about winning vs. cheating."

I would also add Matt Taibbi's book--"Griftopia". It is comprehensive on this subject.
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tmm77625
The winner is the one who stops first
09:37 PM on 11/02/2011
I'm in the 99% as well. The OWS people do not speak for me. And I wish they would stop pretending that they do.
06:26 PM on 11/03/2011
Well,

I'm not 99% of anything. I'm just one person, not a state, not a branch of government, not a politician, or any other label people want to attach to me.

My issue is, someone who needs to rip me off to get by is the problem. I don't need to steal from, or disadvantage anyone to live, why is my ambition the issue?
Aren't thieves the ones who need to be shrunk?
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Robert SF
07:02 PM on 11/03/2011
Your share of the public debt is about $45,000. That's how much the 1% ripped you off to get by. Oh, sure, they'll tell you it's all those lazy minorities and loose single mothers living large off welfare that are the problem, but no -- most of that $45,000 you owe went to fund wars and bailouts.
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smarti
some opinions need a breath mint... try a smarti!
08:16 PM on 11/03/2011
Do you agree, or disagree, that government in its current form of lobbying and campaign finance, represents you?
ccsysglf
question the question
08:37 PM on 11/02/2011
"everyman" is in need of a voice, ows/people factor will provide just such a voice. this voice will be heard not just today, tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year. it's a voice that will be heard for a million lifetimes, it' the voice of freedom.....