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What I Hope To Learn From Gay Marriage... About Divorce

Posted: 05/10/2012 8:24 pm

I'm a straight woman, and a divorced one at that. So what can I add to the conversation regarding gay marriage?

I would like to share my thoughts, my observations, my pragmatic idealism. I would like to speak of old friends, two women, who committed to each other as a couple.

My friends lived together for a decade, sharing a home and a life. They cared for each other through happy periods, through changing careers, through aging parents and tragic incidents. They were a family, in every way except legally. In fact, they spent more time together than my (ex) husband and I, and I often marveled at their love for each other.

When their union came to an end, I watched them with a mix of sadness and admiration. They were respectful of each others' feelings. They dealt with each logistical, financial, and emotional detail with delicacy and openness -- allowing the other to speak, to take the necessary time for the next step, and all of it was accomplished without any legal intervention.

Technically of course, they weren't married, so no divorce proceedings were required. I recall marveling at that as well -- I was divorced at the time -- though I was fully aware that without children, their situation was simpler than if they were parents.

I've known other gay couples over the years, some of whom have lived in committed relationships of short duration, some of long duration, some with children, and others without.

To me, as journalist Barry Yeoman expresses so eloquently in Indy Week, I've thought of these men and women as couples, not gay couples.

And same sex marriage?

I understand that for some, religious beliefs make the concept of same sex marriage difficult to process. For others, and I include myself in this group, we see two people -- not two same sex people -- who are committing to each other in front of family and friends and yes, if they choose, God.

Beyond that, I believe the way we view marriage is formed of our childhoods as well as our adult experience. Our perception of marriage changes when we're living it, and we confront its profound meaning, the challenges inherent in its exchange of promises, and the bumpy road we endure along with genuine joy.

Regarding marriage over civil unions, I might add this: There is no question in my mind that I was accorded advantages as a married woman that I did not experience when I was single, and I no longer experience as a divorced woman. We may like to think otherwise, but marital status matters.

When a marriage breaks up?

Divorce is a dreadful, death-like ending -- for some of us. For others, it is unpleasant and unfortunate, but they move on more easily and co-parent with civility. Nonetheless, it is my belief that children frequently pay the dearest price of all. And whether we're same sex or opposite sex spouses, if marriage ends, we must focus on co-parenting cooperatively, and likewise, deal maturely with issues of custody, visitation, and appropriate support.

If I have one concern about gay marriage, it is a concern about marriage itself, as we practice it in this country. It is the possibility that more marriages will be entered into naively, and that means the potential for more divorce.

Let me state without equivocation: I believe that any couple wishing to marry should be able to do so, period. Two consenting adults who are committed to becoming spouses -- family -- is a remarkable thing, and an extraordinary act of trust and faith. I see marriage with children -- of same sex or opposite sex parents -- as a privilege and a responsibility.

Let me also say, to me, the sexual orientation of a friend, a loved one, or a co-worker simply isn't an issue.

President Obama has embraced same sex marriage publicly, speaking of his evolution on the subject. As our national consciousness works its way toward understanding that equality doesn't apply only to select demographics, I find myself reflecting on my friends who so tenderly dismantled their union.

I'm not here to speak to the potential success rate of same sex marriages, or the ways in which the inevitable divorces will be handled. I hope there will be fewer than among straight couples. Far fewer. And I'd like to think we can look forward to lessons if that is the case. When we work so hard, wait for so long, battle so many obstacles to achieve a goal, aren't we less apt to abandon it without fighting tooth and nail to save it?

I would like to think of those two women I know and admire. They were more "married" in fundamental ways than I was, despite the Missus in front of my name. They cherished their relationship. They were gentle when it ended. Five years later, my friends remain close friends.

May we all be so respectful of those to whom we commit ourselves, of endings if they are unavoidable, and always -- always -- to the children in our charge.

 

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09:58 PM on 05/14/2012
My ex-boss adopted two kids with his partner and they go through the same trials and tribulations that their counterparts in a marriage do. The way they treat each other and their kids are no different than how any of us would treat our spouse/partners and kids - with respect, kindness and love. And that's why it baffles me when people are opposed to this.
06:45 PM on 05/13/2012
this is very well-written piece and I think you make a great point, that communication and respect are the most important components of any relationship, straight, gay, married, friends, lovers. --S.S.
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08:00 AM on 05/13/2012
I have some friends that are Gay and they're very devoted to one another. We've talked about these issues. They feel, and I tend to agree, that Gay is a minority and perhaps, the Gay issues should be presented in a more gentle manner giving the majourity time to digest. Anytime a majourity is "forced" into something, it's human nature to dig our heels in even though otherwise, one would not. Instead of "insisting" the word marriage be used......start off using a terminology that is easier for the majourity to swallow, e.g. union, partnership, whatever. Things can evolve over time, but the results are the same. Turning on TV and having constant displays of Gay interactions, like "Glee" for instance, glaring at the Leave It To Beaver generation....only promotes conflict. Why not walk softly......if the results are the same. Is it more important to prove a point or get results? It would be nice if we could just respect one another.
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12:00 PM on 05/13/2012
Actually, the French have a civil union - called "PACS" - Pacte Civil de Solidarité et du Concubinage - basically a legal union of two adults of same or different sex wishing to live together. Children are recognized as "legitimate." You could say this is a way to avoid the discomfort of the Church by not referring to it as marriage.

The arrangement can include a prenup, and involves all the mutual rights to social security and other benefits, etc. that exist in marriage. In the absence of a prenup, if there is dissolution of the union, what occurs is basically the same as a divorce - division of property, child custody and support, etc.

But this isn't France.

I, personally, don't understand why two people who wish to make a commitment that includes their faith should be denied that option. And the point of my column, among other things, is exactly the respect you speak of. I'm not looking for conflict, but sometimes, conflict is inevitable.
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06:22 PM on 05/13/2012
I agree. Most of my comment actually came from my Gay friends....they are the one's who would prefer a more gentle approach and I agree with them. There needs to be a solution. Keeping people apart or making it more difficult for people who love one another seems a travesty to me. I am going to forward your comment to them. PACS seems to be such an answer. Thank you :)
06:24 AM on 05/13/2012
Let me tell you a little story about gay/straight marriage. When it was announced that the US would be invading Iraq, back in 1991, I never saw so many straight couples, where one was in the military, run like hell to the altar, moving up their wedding dates. Why did the do this? Because if he came back from the Middle East in a body bag and they weren't married, she wouldn't get a huge government check and continuing benefits. In essence, they were using marriage as a life insurance policy whose premiums were paid for by American taxpayers, and some of those taxpayers were gay.

It's not right to take tax monies from certain American citizens for benefits that thay cannot get, by law. It's called taxation without representation.

So, allow gay Americans to get married (to other gays) so they can also rush their marriages in case one is about to be called off to the Middle East. Allow them to take advantage of the system because they, too, have paid into it.
09:39 AM on 05/13/2012
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Get real...it happens to all of us...

1. I pay taxes that fund food stamps. Never have been able to receive that benefit

2. I pay taxes that fund medicaid. I never got that benefit either.

And do some research. SGLI (Servicemen's Group Life Insurance) allows you designate whoever you want as a beneficiary. However, you are correct that a "gay surviving spouse" at this point would not receive any of the other benefits a surviving spouse would get, i.e. commissary privledges, Tricare, etc.)
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07:28 PM on 05/24/2012
yes ObiRich.. they would get any type of insurance as a beneficiary.. that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.. you have yours. .so all is good.. one surely hopes you never qualify for medicaid.. it IS there for you when you need it.. what is referred to here is NOT available to all equally .. at this point ever.. one day you may qualify for food stamps.. I hope not.. when you do.. it is there for you.. that is the difference.. you have yours... so you are happy with that.. understood.
04:43 AM on 05/13/2012
i cant wait for the Gay/Lesbian Divorce Court TV shows
04:43 AM on 05/13/2012
When we wanted to have rights, we wrote letters, staged walks and picketed. What gives anyone the right to try and change the minds of "the people" when you should be changing the minds of your employers and insurances and financial institutions. Marriage should remain between a man and a woman, period. You should not seek to change "my" mind or the laws to allow anything else. The "gay" community wishes to be equal, but they should strive to be themselves and move on. Marriage should never be taken lightly by anyone. You should find a partner and not someone to just live with. Marriage is an everyday work to keep it going. I have been married to the same man for 21 years and 5 children later. We have had good and bad and have worked through everything together. Work at your marriage or civil union or just relationships everyday and stop using divorce as a cop-out.
03:28 AM on 05/13/2012
Sorry.. but my brother-in-law and his partner were living in the land of unicorns and rainbows.. then they went to Vermont and got married.. and two or three years later they split up and it was just as nasty if not nastier than any "straight" divorce...

So, this philosophy is bunk... Divorce is divorce.. and any couple gay or straight is going to face the hard times and possible break up.. welcome to life.
06:10 AM on 05/13/2012
Bingo. You said exactly what I was gona say. Some are OK, some are Nasty. Doesnt matter what Gender it is. Period. But I have a feeling, we are only at the beginning of our being "trained" as to what is right and wrong re this subject.
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07:53 AM on 05/13/2012
Good choice of words. Animals are trained.
08:00 AM on 05/13/2012
Sorry.. LOL.. I am untrainable when it comes to this. I will never change my beliefs. There is always acceptance to a certain degree but this issue will never be anything but politically correct.
03:11 AM on 05/13/2012
How inn the world do you feel that because "I'm a straight woman, and a divorced one at that". you are therefore qualified in any way to add to the conversation regarding gay marriage? Because you had a friend that lived with another? Because you knew someone gay? You know nothing at all about gays and their feelings.
03:06 AM on 05/13/2012
you know me and my partner want to get married but cant and we been together for 10 years. its unfortunate we dont have the rights as heteros
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02:54 AM on 05/13/2012
What is so gay about being "gay" ? Here we have another example of how easy it is to decieve by manipulation of the language. It takes a man and a woman to produce a child and for the childrens sake and for societys sake the institution of marriage was created. It is no accident that marriage has existed in every culture ,civilization , country, racial , ethnic or religious group on earth since the recorded history of mankind. It is human nature to feel anger, jealousy, hurt when ones partner in marriage is unfaithful, or uncaring. Same sex marriage is a distortion of the fundamental purposes of traditional marriage and should not be made legally or morally equivalent.
03:13 AM on 05/13/2012
Agree 100% with you. Fanned
03:29 AM on 05/13/2012
I concur.. what you said..
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01:13 AM on 05/13/2012
"What I Hope To Learn From Gay Marriage... About Divorce "

LMFAO! You have gotta be kidding me right? If not then oh well I'm still not even sorry for laughing at this.
12:14 AM on 05/13/2012
marriage can be a great thing.... if you have someone special! being single, marriage seems so far away! i am now 30, and have decided to stop looking. if a guy should come along, awesome. if not.... time for plan "b"!
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11:56 PM on 05/12/2012
More nonsense, wrapped up in pretty and loving lies, to justify the practice of ungodliness that affects society in the most important way...spiritually.

People need to wake up and realize that the decisions we make now affect our eternal future.
01:34 AM on 05/13/2012
Maybe you are a slave to what you have been spoon-fed.
Use your own brain, the one god gave you, and you will see the truth.
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Lacey Epperson
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02:04 AM on 05/13/2012
God's Word is Truth which is Jesus Christ. What other "truth" are you referring to?
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03:28 AM on 05/13/2012
So tell me. What is so gay about being "gay" ???
10:54 PM on 05/12/2012
I almost hate to post this as so many are reveling in President Obama's statement on gay marriage. My partner and I after planning our wedding for a year went to Vermont from Michigan 2 years ago to get married. It was only a matter of going to the clerks office getting our marriage license and we were married the same day. It was my first marriage of any kind in my 50 + yrs. and meant a lot to me, but sadly not to her, as 5 weeks later she walked out. I took the marriage vows seriously even if I was mistaken when I married my partner of 3 yrs. But the worst is finding out that I am now stuck in the situation because although you can drive to Vermont and marry in a day, you must be a resident of Vermont for 1 yr. to divorce. As I can not move to Vermont I am now married to someone who walked out almost 2 yrs. ago.
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12:05 PM on 05/13/2012
I am so sorry to hear this, @wishingIknew. This is just one of the reasons that state-specific family law makes no sense - to me.
10:41 PM on 05/12/2012
How can some one see the sincere lady to marry to?