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Certain perspectives on the flotilla, Gaza and Israel have taken on mythological proportions but have little logical force, and they are an obstacle to moving forward. Here are some myths, dismantled.

1. "There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza #1" (as a reason why the blockade is not so bad) There is some humanitarian crisis in Gaza; Israel lets in limited, insufficient, arbitrarily determined supplies and a thriving tunnel business provides the rest, but eats away at any semblance of a legitimate economy, increases lawlessness and becomes an employer for overqualified Gaza graduates who should be the next generation of leaders. Starvation is only one kind of crisis: being trapped and immobilized, with severely limited goods and options, is another.

2. "There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza #2" (as a reason why the ships didn't need to be let in). The ships needed to be let in because they were a symbolic act of protest against a policy that is deemed an unfair, unlawful and immoral violation of the human rights of the people of Gaza. People have a right to protest both the policy and its results.

3. "The ships were not intended to provide aid, but to cause a provocation." This is an absurd argument and I am not the first to point this out. There is no disagreement. The ships were intended to both provide aide and provoke Israel into exposing the bankruptcy of its Gaza policy (which - like the flotilla situation itself -- is lose-lose for Israel, as it fails to provide internal security and is damaging internationally). The Exodus too, sought to both get the refugees into Palestine, and focus world attention on Britain's post-war Jewish immigration limitations.

4. "The ships were equivalent to Karine A," the shipload of Iranian weapons bound for the Palestinian Authority, which Israel intercepted in 2002. Or, "allowing sea access to Gaza is an umbilical cord to Iran." So far no weapons cache has been reported, except for the light weaponry on the Mavi Marmara used in the confrontation. The WMD fiasco might be a better analogy. The Iran excuse against opening up access to Gaza is false, since eventually Gaza will be opened as part of a political conflict-resolution process, and Iran will still exist.

5. "Israel disengaged from Gaza and all we got were 12,000 lousy Qassam rockets." This is a very prominent, very dangerous myth that is nearly meaningless because it blots out huge chunks of reality. Israeli settlements were dismantled in 2005; the word 'disengaged' is inappropriate since Israel has been constantly engaged since then. Reciprocal attacks through to June 2006 escalated during two weeks in mid-June when 18 Palestinians were killed; two weeks later two soldiers were killed and Corporal Gilad Shalit was abducted; Israel re-invaded Gaza with air and ground forces, bombing infrastructure and cutting electricity in an offensive that lasted through November 2006; there was another air and ground incursion in March 2008 in which over 100 Palestinians died. Following the 2007 Hamas takeover, Israel imposed a blockade on movement of people and goods, which has lasted for three of the five years since the settlements were dismantled. Israel controls land and sea crossings except for Rafah (controlled by Egypt). In June 2008 Israel and Hamas agreed on a six-month ceasefire in return for easing the blockade. Hamas claims Israel did not comply, and refused to renew the ceasefire but did renew Qassam attacks. Rocket fire fire has been ongoing except during the ceasefire and reduced following the January 2009 Cast Lead Operation.

6. "Israel is no longer responsible for Gaza -- the Palestinians are." The flotilla disaster highlights the fact Israel controls Gaza. See above. Israeli officials now constantly repeat that Israel's "sovereignty" was threatened or violated by the flotilla -- so even Israel admits that what pertains to Gaza pertains to its sovereignty.

7. "Hamas is a group of evil terrorists, sworn to Israel's destruction, cynically abusing their people, stifling human rights and oppressing women." Partly -- maybe even mostly true. But mainly, this is an internal Palestinian issue, neither Israel's moral nor political responsibility. And by now, it is irrelevant as a justification for Israel's Gaza policy and irrelevant for Israel's best interests: getting out.

8. The last is not an Israeli myth but relates to the flotilla: "The people on the ships were peace-seekers." Peace means bringing two sides together. If that's what they were, the activists could have taken aid or letters to abducted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit too. Further, peacemakers would not have tarnished their mission with what could turn out to be hired thugs. Political provocation is legitimate. But they would have been far more effective if they hadn't added more hypocrisy and cynicism to a region that has enough already.

The events can't be undone but the myths can. Then we can try to salvage some political opportunities from the wreckage. Here are two simple recommendations. Israel should heed the unbearable international pressure and end the Gaza blockade. It has failed everyone -- Palestinians and Israelis alike. Israel must stop dealing with Gaza in isolation of the larger Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and get working on the latter. To true peacemakers: keep your hands clean and your intentions pure or you risk alienating dissenters who do not agree with what the government is doing in our name.

 
Certain perspectives on the flotilla, Gaza and Israel have taken on mythological proportions but have little logical force, and they are an obstacle to moving forward. Here are some myths, dismantled.
Certain perspectives on the flotilla, Gaza and Israel have taken on mythological proportions but have little logical force, and they are an obstacle to moving forward. Here are some myths, dismantled.
 
 
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11:15 AM on 06/08/2010
The winds of change are blowing folks.....

People are waking up to Likud/AIPAC propaganda.

People realize the commandos, not the humanitarians, behaved like terrorists.

The U.S. is moving towards a more neutral position in regards to Israeli impunity.

I really hope the Israeli population replace their current facist government.
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jgarbuz
01:17 AM on 06/08/2010
Another self-hating Jewish leftist speaks! Let her move her family to Sderot, and then comment. I lived in Beersheba and worked outside of Sderot when Gaza was open and free and there was no Hamas. This is ENTIRELY the fault of Hamas and its insistence on destroying the Jewish state, a goal shared by former Bolshevik Jews who are disappointed that Israel did not become part of the Soviet bloc in the good old days.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
04:01 AM on 06/08/2010
jgarbuz,

It is easy to simply demonize someone you disagree with, but it gets you little credibility with a neutral audience that you may? be trying to persuade.

Unlees you are just venting, and then I suggest getting a heavy bag that boxers use to train on.

If you are attempting to show the author's ideas to be wrong, and persuade the readers, why don't you take one of her points and show WHERE you think she is wrong?
04:35 AM on 06/08/2010
Marked as favorite.
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10:44 AM on 06/08/2010
When I see Arabs and Muslims critiquing ad hominem attacks on Israel, I might reconsider. I never see Muslims or Arabs ever taking Israel's side ever. Why are Jews the only group that constantly rags on their own? Why are Jews the only ones who try to be compromising? Why never Muslim Arabs? I don't have to argue for the Arab side of this conflict. They have massive armies of propagandists and fellow travellers. "If I'm not for myself, who will be?" These leftist Jews are the scourge of the Jewish people, and humanity as a whole, and have been since Karl Marx.
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09:01 PM on 06/07/2010
This blockade has existed for three years. It existed with the support of the UN, Egypt and Israel, and with full knowledge of various foreign countries.

Irregardless of support, or knowledge, right or wrong, at some point an event is tried by the facts of the event, and that event alone, not the continuous back pedaling of either party, ad neauseum. Otherwise, and in all fairness we would be going back thousands of years.

No court of law seeking justice would ever allow the consideration of any evidence that is irrelevant to the specific case it is investigating. A just hearing would include not just an investigation of Israel, as is being demanded, but of all parties. Yet few on the HP are calling for the investigation of any and all relevent parties of the flotilla. Few are even willing to consider it.

And no bloggers, of which I am aware, have requested one let alone considered it.
10:44 PM on 06/07/2010
I say start with Goldstone report; UN has enough initial grounds to evoke international court of justice and hold both Hamas and Israeli leaders responsible. I'd like to see war crimes filed against them both and arrest warrants issued. Agreed?
04:04 AM on 06/08/2010
Hamas was ready to be prosecuted but Israel denied.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
04:04 AM on 06/08/2010
Agreed. This would be a good starting point.

But I also think what is happenning in various capitals is that those nations who supported the blockade are seeing that it is not producing the intended results, indeed is counterproductive.

As such it needs re-evaluation, and I think most, including the US are coming rapidly to the conclusion that a new policy is needed.
04:08 AM on 06/08/2010
UN support? The UN has declared it illegal.
Egypt support? Egypt is bribed, the Egyptian people know it is illegal and do not support it
Other countries? They all are America's lapdogs.
Heck even the Israeli supreme court has declared it illegal

Investigations always look at both sides. That is why they are called investigations--you "investigate".
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09:34 AM on 06/08/2010
It is the responsibility of the UN to show unbiased, unprejudiced, and non discriminatory leadership, not speak out two sides of their mouth. Their actions must match their speech. It does not.

While the UN may have declared it illegal their actions show otherwise.

While it is true that the decisions/actions of governments are often in conflict with the citizens of their respective nations, it is also true that citizens are inclined to their passions and prejudices, rather than the best interest of all concerned regarding the facts/evidence.

It is true that citizens are easily impassioned by the wit and cunning of those who would prey upon them because the citizentry lack the necessary knowledge to discern reality logically and reasonably.

American lapdogs, is rhetoric. We are all guilty of rhetoric at some point in our lives when we are impassioned by our positions and are unable to set aside our passions in favor of rational thought.
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08:16 PM on 06/07/2010
"They all knew Israel was prepared to use any means to stop them," the reporter pointed out.

Ivanov also stated that the 50+ organizers, mainly pro-Palestinian organizations, but also human rights ones, and peace supporters, were fully aware that they had media traveling with them, which made them bolder, adding things could have been much scarier without the presence of journalists."
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=116792

When American citizens, or any citizens for that matter choose to enter foreign countries or as in this case, foreign "non humanitarian missions", whose values are not compatible with American values, or whose justice system is not compatable, who is responsible for their actions? Who pays the price?

When they choose to enter a situation with the full knowledge of what might happen, who takes responsibility for that action? When they enter a war zone, whose responsibility is that?

We have all seen the videos of the commando's sliding down the ropes; I don't think things could have gotten much scarier than what the passangers planned to do. Watching them prepare themselves with broken bottles, chains, knives, preplanned sling shots, and iron bars, couldn't get much scarier.

These weren't innocent people sleeping in their beds as is claimed by Free Gaza Movement. They were up and waiting. We see the truth on video.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
04:07 AM on 06/08/2010
You may have a point if this occurred in Israeli territorial waters. but it occurred not in a war zone, but in INTERNATIONAL WATERS!

As for the video, all videos have been seized by Israel, so you are seeing what the IDF and the Israeli government WANTS you to see.
04:13 AM on 06/08/2010
You are using the opinion of one reporter. All the passengers stated they only thought they will get arrested and deported, they all have stated that they did not expect Israel to respond with armed force.

And yet you Pro-Israeli's cannot stop with the ""Why did they run into the bullets?" argument.

Israel always states that it is a Western democracy whose values are compatabile with the west. Your second point just proves how much the Israeli government lies.

Up & waiting? It was fajr time, Muslims pray in open areas when they are together---like a deck. Anybody who is approached by an armed person will try to save themselves, it is human nature.

All the weapons you are mentioning are on any ship. Heck, most of them are in houses around the world.
07:24 PM on 06/07/2010
Goods brought by flotilla pile up in army warehouses because Hamas rejects their entrance by land
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3901662,00.html
07:41 PM on 06/07/2010
You continue to post the same comment when a clear response has been provided to you. Your aim is obviously to mis-lead people and provide disinformation.
07:51 PM on 06/07/2010
You don't like the truth. Hamas is organizing its own blockade.
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08:03 PM on 06/07/2010
And he must be really low on the distribution list. The message that the Israeli SHIELD is to try and inculcate into public discourse now is that Israel is going to do a thorough investigation of itself.

Strange how the army warehouses, that used to be full of such things as shipments of women's underwear (stuck in one of those warehouses for 2 years) suddenly have a problem holding humanitarian aid until the humanitarians are safe (the condition Hamas set before it would take delivery of the electric wheelchairs (batteries helpfully removed) and the other stuff that Israel has (after literally ripping it apart) so graciously offered to deliver).

I wonder how Arik reconciles taking the position that a delay in delivery caused by Hamas is evidence of a blockade, and the delays in delivery cause by the IDF is not. Oh, wait, he doesn't bother reconciling taking opposite positions at a moments notice, he's in the doublethink profession.
04:47 PM on 06/08/2010
Zionist lies.
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06:54 PM on 06/07/2010
great post!
06:01 PM on 06/07/2010
Witness account.
"Svetoslav Ivanov, who was on one of...ships, with cameraman, Valentiv Vassilev... country's biggest TV channel bTV, pointed out that before the ships sailed
they were under the impression the captains would stop them before entering territorial waters, only to realize it was deceit and coordinated ahead of time that there would be no stopping at all."

The reporter stressed that there have been provocations towards the Israelis, particularly pointing out the culprit of the incident, the Turkish ship “Mavi Marmara....
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=116792
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06:28 PM on 06/07/2010
Yes, this was no love boat. And, the organizers of this non-love boat were willing to endanger lives of foolish peaceniks, who are willing to go to war torn areas, and than cry foul when it wasn't the thrill they thought it would be.

What these reporters ought to be thank for is that Israel isn't N. Korea because we know what they are willing to do to reporters. And the peaceniks on board, looking for a thrill can certainly be glad that they weren't taking a stroll in war torn Iraq because we know what happens there if you stroll in the wrong territory.
11:29 AM on 06/08/2010
The humanitarian boat was carrying food and medicine, and Israeli terrorists killed 10 people. It was not a love boat when Israelis decided to terrorize it.

The Israeli terrorists are becoming worse than Iranian Revolutionary Guards, you cannot trust anything they say anymore, they spin everything with OBVIOUS propaganda.

At least the Iranians don't massacre people that they detain!

You know Israeli apologist have hit rock bottom, when they say Israel is at least better than North Korea!
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Richard Pearce
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06:56 PM on 06/07/2010
Ah, lovely, so all the accounts of the Israeli attacks on the ships (except of course, the IDF's) are to be dismissed (in Oleg's opinion), but wants to cherry pick.

BTW, Oleg, you'll notice that the ships DID NOT enter territorial waters, except under Israeli control.
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Cynthia Rays
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05:09 PM on 06/07/2010
http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com Anna Baltzar
" In 2005, the Israeli Army removed 8,000 ideological settlers from Gaza , many of them kicking and screaming with sticks and rocks in hand. The Army managed not to kill or even shoot a single one of them. Do sticks from Turks hurt more, or is it not about the sticks at all?

As Dr. Norman Finkelstein pointed out, Israeli officials met for an entire week prior to the flotilla to plan precisely what they intended to do. The Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren himself stated that the Mavi Marmara was simply "too large to stop with nonviolent means."
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06:05 PM on 06/07/2010
Finkelstein? You're paraphrasing him, a man who's tenure was refused by DePaul University. There is only one type of bigger shame than not getting tenured, and that is losing respect at the end of your very prominent career like Helen Thomas.
06:20 PM on 06/07/2010
if she hadn't shot off her bigoted mouth, she wouldn't have lost an otherwise esteemed position.
07:07 PM on 06/07/2010
Sorry you mean the great Norman Finkelstein who got the highest mark from his peers for tenure at DePaul? Maybe you should find out what Alan Dershowitz and other pro-Zionists did to deprive a great scholar of his position. However, as Norm says he is now free to talk and write. Furthermore he won the legal law suit against DePaul and was given his job back but refused.
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06:36 PM on 06/07/2010
Iron bars are deadly weapons
Broken bottles for the purpose of slashing open people are deadly weapons.
Heavy chains used to swing at people, especially heads are deadly weapons.
Sling shots are not just deadly weapons but are evidence of preplanning, brought on board for the purpose of deadly confrontation.

Knives are deadly weapons.

Deceit is a deadly weapon.

This link is evidence of deceit, and the intent to kill by memebers of the flotilla.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36489_Another_Cropped_Reuters_Photo_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood
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Richard Pearce
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06:59 PM on 06/07/2010
So, let's see, Israel confiscates all camera's and other recording devices it can, and that isn't evidence of deceit. but cropping a picture for size is????

Interesting standards you have there.
04:08 PM on 06/07/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z82VocK-C8c&feature=player_embedded

ex-marine on his mission on Mavi Marmara
04:02 PM on 06/07/2010
Dahlia Scheindlin, you say "There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza #1" Is that from personal experience and your last trip there? If that was th ecase, then why the blockade? or is this a Zionists ploy to get the Palestinians more self reliant and self supporting!!

Get real.
05:37 PM on 06/07/2010
That there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza is one of the myths that she is debunking.
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Try the truth
Reality has a well known liberal bias
05:48 PM on 06/07/2010
Please read the rest of the paragraph!
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03:09 PM on 06/07/2010
"Hamas is a group of evil terrorists, sworn to Israel's destruction, cynically abusing their people, stifling human rights and oppressing women." Partly -- maybe even mostly true. But mainly, this is an internal Palestinian issue, neither Israel's moral nor political responsibility.

So a political organization comprised of terrorists sworn to Israel's destruction, is an internal Palestinian issue and not Israel's moral nor political responsibility???? NOW THAT IS SPIN.
03:55 PM on 06/07/2010
Israel will be talking to them sooner or later; and you will have to change your dictionary.
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06:07 PM on 06/07/2010
Is that because there wont be any further elections in Gaza?
06:21 PM on 06/07/2010
That was the most lame point that she attempted to make.
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03:02 PM on 06/07/2010
Helping poverty stricken Arabs leave the Gaza strip to live in Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, is called humanitarianism. Reality would be better served if the Arabs of Gaza would stop calling themselves Palestinians and accept that they are just a tribe that has wandered too far. Making a slum out of valuable shorefront property which in five years could be one of the leading tourist attraction on the Mediterranean cannot be tolerated. But It is not fair to evict them all, those that would like to stay can be trained as employees of the casinos and hotels in the new Gaza.
03:49 PM on 06/07/2010
Tribes wandering too far...what's wrong with that?

I thouht the bible was full of such stories!
04:02 PM on 06/07/2010
melpol, my first reaction to your post was that it was satirical, but after looking at your other posts, I realize that your callous racism is genuine. Aren't you at all concerned that you cause more harm than benefit to your position? People who harbor such animosity and contempt for those of a different ethnic background usually have the sense to camouflage their racism. What's your problem?
09:00 AM on 06/08/2010
Melpol is yet another hasbara troll (or maybe the same one posting under yet another user name) trying to wind people up. Do not feed!
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02:44 PM on 06/07/2010
Excellent points, Dahlia.

I don't agree with number 7 at all though - well-meaning writers always seem to allow that caveat to slip through in order to make other valid points. And all that serves to do is create yet another myth.
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Vlady
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03:31 PM on 06/07/2010
Good for you about #7. In turn, I disagree with only 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 numbers . But I completely agree with the idea of peaceful coexistence of Jews and Muslim.
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Cynthia Rays
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04:42 PM on 06/07/2010
There are women holding political positions in Hamas. In Ramallah, a Christian woman was elected.
01:17 AM on 06/08/2010
Guess what?! Ramallah is in the West Bank, not Gaza! Hamas has no control over the West Bank
02:34 PM on 06/07/2010
Free Gaza of Dahlia and support Hamas blockade of Gaza

Goods brought by flotilla pile up in army warehouses because Hamas rejects their entrance by land
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3901662,00.html
02:53 PM on 06/07/2010
Dahlia must organize an aid flotilla in charge of assisting Hamas in enforcing its humanitarian blockade of Gaza.
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Richard Pearce
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07:05 PM on 06/07/2010
Well, you certainly got the memo to try and hammer that message into the public discourse.

Of course, you don't ever (in the what, 20 or 30 times you've vomitted forth the same message) mention that Hamas said they would take the aid, just not while the Israelis were holding the people who tried to deliver it captive.

(You also didn't mention that part of the aid Israel tried to 'deliver' was electric wheelchairs that had had their batteries removed)
03:06 PM on 06/07/2010
You can't respond to her compelling logic and arguments, so you resort to personal insults?

The aid is not being taken by Gazans because Israel refuses to let through the construction material; the whole point of the flotilla was to break the blockade, not to let Israelis filter in what they want as they always do..
03:12 PM on 06/07/2010
You are exposed. Hamas does not need any humanitarian aid, they just want to be able to import weaponry by sea. That's why they refused this aid.
03:26 PM on 06/07/2010
That's a lie and it is clearly stated in the article:

Goods brought by flotilla pile up in army warehouses because Hamas rejects their entrance by land


You and Hamas just want to smuggle weapons in Gaza under a fake humanitarian pretext. You support Arab genocidal projects.
02:18 PM on 06/07/2010
The sentence "peacemakers would not have tarnished their mission with what could turn out to be hired thugs" and whatever follows not based on fact or evidence, but on myth, or even IDF-crafted propaganda:

Israel has done it's to eliminate all evidence (luckily, they were not that airtight). Footage was confiscated, whatever IDF has released was problematic - from obscured time-codes to planted audio from TV. It was important for them to block radio communnication with the ships for the same reason.

If you accept the versions of the passengers, they were shot at, with live ammunition, without provocation (in international waters too, but that's lawyerese). Some were shot execution-style according to autopsies. The rest is propaganda. I don't know what followed (IDF made sure I wouldn't) but whatever did can be justified according to both law and moral.

As far as I know, those night vision films could have been faked while all passengers were captive below deck. Mavi Marmara stayed in deep sea longer than the rest of the ships. IDF can prove me wrong by revealing the timecode :)
03:08 PM on 06/07/2010
I agree; this was the weakest point in an otherwise strong and thoughtful article.
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Richard Pearce
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07:27 PM on 06/07/2010
So far, the picture I've been able to put together from the eyewitness statements is that there was a first boarding attempt from sea and air, with those trying to board from the sea being repelled through the use of firehoses (which, BTW, is the same technique used by those onboard freighters off the coast of Somalia to discourage piracy), and those who dropped from the first helicopter (on the heels of a salvo of concussion and tear gas grenades) were surrounded, and disarmed (after violent resistance on the IDF members part), then secured below decks (with medical attention being provided). Then came the second wave, with its well publicised images of the invading commandos being met with impromptu weapons (which Israel is trying to portray as the first attempt).

Now, if one of the commandos in the first wave had started killing people rather than surrendering to the inevitable, human nature would be to try and make sure the second wave didn't get a chance to get their feet under them and draw their weapons.

And the IDF does not react well to having its members captured, so the odds of using deadly force to clear a landing area are good.
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10:09 PM on 06/07/2010
Great propaganda, Pearce.

Too bad we all know the truth by now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk&feature=player_embedded
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Richard Pearce
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11:52 PM on 06/07/2010
Ah, yes, the Angry God speaks.

Of course, it seems the IDF thinks you (and the whole world) can't handle the truth, and so it edits it.

And given the, let's say 'quality' of Palwatch (and IDF co-production) translations, you'll have to excuse me if I say I wish Cristopher Mayhew was still around, offering his prize. It would be nice to have accurate translations.