But Has Joe Biden Ever Punched a Voter?

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Posted August 24, 2008 | 05:05 PM (EST)




"It's Hillary, man. That's the dream ticket!." This was the view of Tony, an ex-infantryman living on the streets of Chicago; he liked McCain ("as a veteran"), but had grudgingly settled on Obama. "If he chooses Hillary as vice-president, he'll win." Later, an American-Kenyan taxi driver (a man, charmingly, oblivious to Obama's own roots) declared that John Kerry should be the running mate. Another fantasist wanted Gore.

But of all the many people to whom I've spoken during the last week about Obama's ticket, no one, anywhere, mentioned Biden. Certainly no one discussed the rather odd allegation that he had copied a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock in the 80s -- a contention which, if true, would show bad judgment on a whole number of levels.

So today, when I slapped the LA Times down on the front desk of my Santa Monica hotel and asked the immaculate out of work actors staffing it, "what do you know about this guy, Joe Biden?" I was faced with blank stares.

The public's silence contrasted strikingly with the noise of the commentariat.

Listening to that lot, you'd think that Senator Biden's elevation had been foreshadowed in Scripture. They extol his stewardship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, his experience, the fact he's from Pennsylvania -- credentials all of which scream "I'm not Obama." He's perfect.

There may be some truth in their analysis. Biden's eloquent acceptance speech in Springfield, Illinois, while deliberately "veep" in tone, maintained a fireside rootsiness that played well; he and Obama looked good together. People may not have been talking about Joe Biden last week, but everyone's talking about him now. And, yes, it was strong of Obama to resist the so-called "dream ticket" of selecting Hillary.

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In Britain, we experienced a political coupling during the Blair era, which bore some similarity to the thinking behind the Obama/Biden pairing.

Tony Blair, like Obama, was a metropolitan lawyer whose natural constituency was the latte liberal. He had attended an elite university; he had a professional wife; and, by the standards of his left wing party, he harboured relatively moderate views. But Blair lacked cachet with blue collar voters. It was desirable for him to have a deputy who could talk to those unions and that Labour Party that had put Blair in his place.

Barack Obama, a man whose book contains a whole chapter dedicated to the American constitution, also wanted a foil who could speak about policemen and fire-fighters, price inflation and kitchen tables; in Biden he seems to have found one.

However, Blair's choice of deputy differed from Obama's in one critical respect. While Obama selected a man noted for his substance, Blair -- it turned out -- had chosen a man whose central contribution would be comic relief.

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott was the British government's comedian-in-chief. Charged with being Labour's anti-Tory attack-dog, Prescott soon showed himself to be a self-wounding Mr Malaprop. His relations with the English language could at best be described as casual. During a meeting with Dick Cheney the Deputy PM reportedly referred to somewhere called "Kovosa." This was a territory apparently situated in a place Prescott is said to have dubbed the "Balklands."

That was not the sum of it. He was enormous, yet still able to bed his diary secretary. Most famously, he punched a voter in the face during the middle of a General Election campaign -- which Blair subsequently went on to win.

Eventually, after nearly a decade of gaffes, Prescott's credibility was buried once and for all when he was pictured playing croquet at his grace and favor manor. It was a photo no politician would want floating around -- least of all New Labour's working class pin-up. But it was even worse than that: Blair was out of the country at the time; technically, Prescott was in charge. The long range snapshot stripped him of what remaining use he had.

And yet, none of this mattered. Blair could get away with Prescott livening the place up. For while it was useful, especially in the early days, to have Big John around to broaden Blair's appeal, he was never really necessary. Brits, like other Europeans, are less suspicious of the noblesse de robe than Americans are of their lawyers and bureaucrats. If this election were in Britain, France and Germany, Obama would win hands down; not so - at least not yet - here. But this says more about the fascinating complexities of America than it does the manifest qualifications of Barack Obama to lead. Joe Biden's significance in this race, in this country, is so much greater than Prescott's could have been in the UK: Biden's folksy charm will be crucial to Obama's success.

So let's just hope that the senior senator from Delaware doesn't hit anyone -- because Joe Biden counts.

"It's Hillary, man. That's the dream ticket!." This was the view of Tony, an ex-infantryman living on the streets of Chicago; he liked McCain ("as a veteran"), but had grudgingly settled on Obama. ...
"It's Hillary, man. That's the dream ticket!." This was the view of Tony, an ex-infantryman living on the streets of Chicago; he liked McCain ("as a veteran"), but had grudgingly settled on Obama. ...
 
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SimonNZ is entirely wrong: the Countryside Alliance has absolutely no similarity to the NRA. There is a long and honourable tradition of egg-throwing in the UK and it is taken as a test of a politician's character whether they flinch or not. Prescott showed himself to be a thug, not a leader. That surely is the article's point: it didn't matter in the UK, whereas in the US Biden is so very important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 08/25/2008



Biden isn't Prescott!

Bidens has had his up"s and down"s. Infact his life is littered with a sort of ambidextrous hand of fate. Whenever he appears to be doing well he is dealt a cruel blow " the tough Irish Catholic up-bringing, the horrific loss of family and as you mention plagiarising one of the great buffoons of politics (although the "1000 generations of Kinnocks" line was probably penned by ad man Hugh Hudson for the "Labour " the movie" party political broadcast).

Bidens tiny state, travelling to Washington on the Amtrak, pressing the flesh at State fairs is all great but you can"t honestly take the "blue-collar" ground when you have been a well paid career politician since your early thirties.

No, Biden brings a completely different quality to the Vice-Presidential elect role he has just taken " He"s "Presidential". From his time on the Foreign Relations Committee, his natural ability with people one-on-one (take note Obama), his cross party friends (McCain included), his smooth speaking style, his back-story (minus the two notable gaff blimps), his wife " I could go on and on. Biden would genuinely have to fight it out with Fred Thompson to be a more "Hollywood" President.

Where Prescott was kept on to appease the old wing of the party, Biden is there to look Presidential " come the first Hurricane in Obama"s presidency and see who gets off the plane first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 08/25/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 08/24/2008

Whatever one thinks of John Prescott, I think there are some important mitigating circumstances missing from this article when it raises the time "he punched a voter in the face."

I was living in the UK at the time and remember the incident well. Prescott was "on walkabout" when this occurred, essentially walking down a barricaded street shaking hands with supporters during election campaigning. There were a small number of pro-hunting protesters (the closest thing in the US would probably be passionate NRA members) protesting about the proposed ban on fox hunting in the UK (as an example imagine the response by NRA members if Obama and Biden became President and VP and then proposed a total ban on handguns).

As Prescott passed, one of these protesters threw an egg at his face at point blank range, certainly ample provocation in my view . Prescott lashed out in a reflex action and planted the guy with a solid right hook. This would never have happened in the US because the guy would never have gotten that close to a VP candidate and if he had, would undoubtedly been shot dead by the Secret Service. In comparison between the US and the UK I think the egg thrower ended up being arrested but then released without charge.

Prescott was a course and inarticulate man but simply stating that he punched a hapless voter in an election campaign, without explaining the circumstances in which the incident occurred, does him a disservice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 08/24/2008

Thank you for the insight. I did not know that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 08/25/2008

Whatever the circumstances, "our deputy PM punched a voter in the face during a campaign" is friggin' HILARIOUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 08/25/2008

Maybe punching people is needed. It creates a sense of "seriousness".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 08/24/2008
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