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Let's Get Rid of 'Mommy and Me' (VIDEO)

Posted: 09/14/10 10:00 AM ET

I took my eldest son to get his hair cut the other day and noticed on the door to the salon an advertisement for a local "Mommy and Me" class. The flier included an illustration of a mother holding her toddler. There was no mention of dads and other caregivers being welcome as well.

Harmless, right?

When it comes to father's rights, I am certainly not a militant. Nor am I the type of person who takes offense at every little thing. However, when I read a flier for a toddler activity that only emphasizes motherhood, do I, as a dad, feel excluded?

You bet.

Do people intend to be exclusionary? Sometimes they do and sometimes they just haven't thought enough about what they are doing, as evidenced below:



There's a famous quote by Gloria Steinem that I think is worth repeating here: "Women are not going to be equal outside the home until men are equal in it." There's certainly been a lot of growth in terms of how the genders work together, but there's still a great deal of resistance from all sides. As a society, we still hold too tightly to old stereotypes of what moms and dads should be doing -- even when reality dictates we should be more open.

When it comes to childcare, it really is up to women to allow men into what has previously been their domain and a great place to start is to get rid of the moniker "Mommy and Me." So, if you are connected with such a class, consider getting the name changed to one that is more welcoming, like "Toddler Time" or "Toddler and Me" -- names that include not only dads but grandparents and other caregivers as well. It's small changes like this that, over the long run, will help alter attitudes and perceptions about our roles as men and women in our society.

Dana H. Glazer is the award-winning director of the feature length documentary The Evolution of Dad. To learn more about the project, please visit www.evolutionofdad.com.

 
I took my eldest son to get his hair cut the other day and noticed on the door to the salon an advertisement for a local "Mommy and Me" class. The flier included an illustration of a mother holding he...
I took my eldest son to get his hair cut the other day and noticed on the door to the salon an advertisement for a local "Mommy and Me" class. The flier included an illustration of a mother holding he...
 
 
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10:28 AM on 09/21/2010
Rather than complain about something geared towards women, why not make something geared towards men? Do women ask to be included in stuff that is obviously male oriented? Rather than say Oh I am being discriminated against why not make your own way?
03:24 PM on 09/21/2010
That sounds very familiar to me. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah -- "separate but equal" -- a great rallying cry for the bigoted. Why not just get rid of sexism? Why blame the person who is pointing out something is wrong with the way things are? Just fix what's wrong.
07:23 AM on 09/16/2010
Why doesn't this father go to the many classes offered by the government funded Fatherhood Initiatives rather than bust in on some mothers who want to have bonding time with the children? Or create his own class or get a business to make a class which allows fathers. Why does he have to bust in on a class for women?
05:38 PM on 09/15/2010
This guy should be sued for destroying the business. Exercise classes are routinely all women so the ladies can do Kegel exercises without having an audience.

The government is funding Fatherhood Programs that only offer benefits to fathers or fathers and children. No mothers get any benefits. No mom who is forced to pay child support can go to any of these Fatherhood programs and get help reducing child support to these great stay at home dads who took their children away after beating the mom then claiming they were "alienated".
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06:43 PM on 09/15/2010
As I thought more about these types of classes, I also remember that many were more like breastfeeding support groups -- some women are very uncomfortable nursing in front of men and even more uncomfortable discussing nursing with men. Just another reason why they may insist on women only.
07:27 AM on 09/16/2010
He did not ask why men were excluded so we can only speculate as to the reason. Maybe these are new moms, maybe they are doing female type exercises, maybe they are getting breastfeeding help, maybe they simply want to have some female bonding. Whatever the reason, why does he insist that men's rights are being trampled because he is not allowed in this class. If that is the case then I say women's rights are being trampled all the time because they are not allowed to be NFL football players. Women's rights are being trampled when they are paid 76 on every dollar a man is paid. Rather than complain about this why doesn't this man simply go elsewhere and let these women have their little class - or simply create a parent class.
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randijames
12:11 PM on 09/17/2010
women are uncomfortable doing a lot of things in front of men because of the way men are or the way society is. it is up to MEN to create an environment in which the ladies feel safe in doing x,y,z activities in front of men..not the other way around because of some ego bruising.
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ninja45
09:57 AM on 09/17/2010
Wow, so all single dads must have beat the mothers right? And why should a mother have a right to get her child support reduced?
11:18 AM on 09/17/2010
Unless a mother dies or refuses to care for her child why would there be a single dad unless he commits the ultimate abuse by depriving a child of their mother.
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mjegan59
01:07 PM on 09/15/2010
It's increasingly not only taking a village to raise a child, but the village (i.e., the family network for the most part) is increasingly involved. Properly naming such classes will help drive the change forward. When we took our two year old to swim class it was all fathers in the pool. It was offered Saturday morning which was great. But the new economy which has many more dads off work than in the past means that we are seeing lots of dads very involved in their young children's lives. The hope is that we get to a great level of involvement (and work-life balance) for both fathers and mothers to the benefit of children who will get to spend great amounts of time with both parents and who are modeling relationships with work.
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randijames
12:16 PM on 09/17/2010
this is a false assumption. kinda what happened in Florida. they changed non-custodial parent and "visitation" to "time-sharing" and "other parent" as to promote joint custody and the rearing of children by both parents. Did that change absent parents roles in their children's lives? No. Because they aren't mandated to do ANYTHING. It is those who want to do so are already doing it, and they don't need any title changes to help them out.

Dads losing their jobs doesn't make them stay at home parents. It makes them parents who have lost their jobs who are now babysitting. There is a difference. Loving fathers take care of their children under ANY circumstance.
11:16 AM on 09/15/2010
"up to women to allow men"?

Men have to be good fathers for their children and they DO NOT NEED PERMISSION!
10:45 AM on 09/15/2010
Is the author offended when women don't play on men's football, basketball or baseball teams or in the same golf tournaments?
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ninja45
09:45 AM on 09/17/2010
This is parenting, not sports.
11:23 AM on 09/17/2010
So you want to attend a class geared toward breastfeeding and losing baby weight? Motherhood should be revered, it is NOT gender neutral. Mothers ALONE risk their lives to bring a new life into the world.
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Nicole Dixson
11:03 PM on 09/14/2010
Just get rid of these type of classes period. What is wrong with just the child participating in the activity and the parent standing on the sidelines to encourage and cheer the child on? I think we need to step back and allow children to explore and test their abilities without always needing to join in. Even young children can feel good about accomplishing a particular task. Parenting in some cases has gotten too hands on.
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06:41 PM on 09/15/2010
Most of these types of activities are for infants and toddlers -- standing on the sidelines isn't an option.
09:46 PM on 09/15/2010
seriously! and the purpose of these classes is to have fun with your child not to leave your one year old alone in a sea of strangers so they can "feel good about accomplishing a particular task".
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randijames
12:18 PM on 09/17/2010
Just what we need, another person opining on what someone else's children need. Americans.
06:15 PM on 09/14/2010
Our rec dept. offers "Parent and Child Yoga." I know "Mommy" feels like a cute word, but it does leave out dads, and for me it's a little too cute--perhaps because I'm not exactly a young mother, and once your child is past the age where he calls you "Mommy" it doesn't appeal to you anyway. I agree: let's get rid of "Mommy and Me"

http://www.sensorysmartparent.com (notice it's "parent" not "Mommy"!)
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randijames
12:21 PM on 09/17/2010
yeah, because the class is really about you
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05:30 PM on 09/14/2010
Or fathers -- just show up to the class and eventually the name will change to better describe it.

In my area, they are more frequently called Parent and Me classes although they often include grandparents and nannies.
05:48 PM on 09/14/2010
@1Woman4Obama ("Or fathers -- just show up to the class and eventually the name will change to better describe it."):

Translation of the above: "There's no injustice here, just a lack of interest by fathers in their children."

But in case you didn't pay attention to the video, the reason why the father in the video was refused membership is because the director of the program claimed that their existing female customers were demanding that fathers be excluded. With that dynamic, fathers would never have established a critical mass of customers to create any measurable difference. In other words, the problem is precisely institutionalized anti-father discrimination and NOT a lack of expressed parental interest by fathers. The injustice against fathers (and their children!) that was highlighted by the Youtube video in this article was very real.
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06:07 PM on 09/14/2010
I don't mean to imply that there is a lack of interest by fathers. I'm just observing that where I live, we don't have mommy and me classes. When I went to parent and me swimming with my daughter, I was the only mother there. My husband and I switched off every other week and it seems this is what most parents were doing.

I'm not sure why or when the name changed but my advice is to just force the issue or start your own parent and me groups. And you are right that I didn't watch the video -- I can't watch on this computer.