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Homeopathy: A Healthier Way to Treat Depression?

Posted: 09/29/10 08:00 AM ET

Depression lowers the spirits and drowns the eyes in sorrow, though tears aren't the only reason why depressed people sometimes can't see straight. Depression also caves in the chest, slumps the shoulders, and inhibits full breathing, usually forcing unhappy people to try to catch their breath by frequent sighing. It is sometimes said that depression brings you down to sighs (my apology to those readers who get depressed by bad puns).

On a much more serious note, depression can be a temporary passing experience or a deeply disturbing condition that may lead to suicide. Except in cases of minor depressive states, professional attention is generally recommended to help a person go through this emotional experience in a conscious manner.

The Real Dangers of Conventional Medical Treatment

Recent studies published in leading medical journals have seriously questioned the efficacy of conventional pharmaceutical treatment of people with mild or moderate depression.

In early 2010, major media reported on a significant review of research testing antidepressant medications.(1) What is unique about this review of research is that the researchers evaluated studies that were submitted to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), though the researchers discovered that many studies submitted to the FDA were unpublished (they found that the unpublished research consistently showed negative results of antidepressants).

This meta-analysis of antidepressant medications found only modest benefits over placebo treatment in published research, but when unpublished trial data is included, the benefit falls below accepted criteria for clinical significance.

Perhaps most startling about this research is the fact the FDA only requires drug manufacturers to provide them with two positive studies on depression to attain FDA-approval status, even if these same drug companies submit many more studies with negative results. Such information forces consumers to question the efficacy of "FDA approved drugs," and it explains why so many conventional medications eventually get withdrawn from marketplace.

At the same time that the above review research was published, another review of research was published in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association), and they found similar results, "The magnitude of benefit of antidepressant medication compared with placebo increases with severity of depression symptoms and may be minimal or nonexistent, on average, in patients with mild or moderate symptoms."(2) These researchers did find benefits from the use of antidepressants in the treatment of severe depression, but because the majority of people taking antidepressants today do not have "severe depression," it is prudent for many people with depression to talk to their doctors about safer and more effective alternatives.

Sadly (and strangely), when conventional doctors today do not obtain adequately effective results with one drug, they often simply prescribe more drugs in hopes that one of them, or their combination, will be more effective (whether this increased use of drugs is effective or not, there are certain "benefits" that drug companies receive from this strategy). However, increasing research is finding that "polypharmacy" (the use of multiple drugs concurrently) may lead to worse, not better, results. New research has shown that polypharmacy with psychotropic medications in suicidal adolescent inpatients has been linked to a significantly increased risk for early readmission.(3)

Presented at Ohio State University and Nationwide Children's Hospital, the researchers found that suicidal adolescent inpatients receiving three or more different classes of psychotropic medications had a 2.6-fold increased risk of being re-admitted within 30 days of discharge.

Cynthia A Fontanella, PhD, the lead researcher, asserted, "Our finding that polypharmacy was associated with an increased risk of readmission is concerning, although not surprising." Even though the serious problems with polypharmacy are known and expected, polypharmacy is growing in mental health care, not decreasing.

Other researchers discovered a disturbing trend among the over 13,000 visits of outpatients with mental disorder diagnoses: the number of psychotropic medications prescribed increased in successive years. Visits in which two or more medications were prescribed increased from 42.6 percent in 1996-1997 to 59.8 percent in 2005-2006, and those in which at least 3 medications were prescribed virtually doubled from 16.9 percent to 33.2 percent.(4)


Why Mental Illness is Increasing

There are numerous theories for why the number of people suffering from mental illness is increasing and why it is afflicting people at younger and younger ages. The homeopathic analysis for this epidemic is unique and may provide additional insight as to why this is occurring.

Like most observers of health and medicine today, homeopaths do not believe that there is simply one reason for the increase in mental illness, though many homeopaths assert that iatrogenesis (doctor-induced disease) plays a much greater role than is commonly recognized.

Homeopaths, like modern-day physiologists, understand that symptoms of illness represent the body's defenses in its efforts to adapt to and respond against infection, environmental assault, or stress of some kind. As discomforting as symptoms can be, they still represent the living organism's best efforts at the time to try to defend and heal him or herself. Such defenses are an innate part of our evolutionary efforts to survive. The symptoms that a person experiences are a part of the body's innate wisdom, commonly referred to as "vis mediatrix naturae" (the healing power of nature).

Using conventional medications to inhibit or suppress a symptom may be effective temporarily, but THIS is often the "bad news." Because symptoms as diverse as fevers, coughs, nasal discharges, or even high blood pressure are recognized by physiologists as adaptations and defenses of the body, drugs that inhibit these symptoms may provide a short-term benefit, but such drugs also reduce the person's ability to get over the illness. More significantly and more seriously, conventional medications may actually suppress the disease process and the wisdom of the body, thereby creating a deeper and more serious illness.

The irony to "modern scientific medicine" is that the evidence that doctors proudly show that a drug "works" is often actually evidence that the drug is effective in suppressing, not curing, a specific symptom (there are, of course, many exceptions to this general observation, such as antibiotics, but antibiotic drugs create other problems about which this writer and many others have commented already).

For over 200 years homeopaths have observed the ability of many conventional drugs to suppress acute illness into more deep chronic illness. During this time, homeopaths have also found that this disease suppression also creates more and greater mental illness. When reviewing the side-effects of many drugs, it is not uncommon to find that drugs are known to lead to various states of mental illness from depression to delusion to suicidal propensities.

Just as suppressing one's emotions often leads to a later explosion of these emotions to someone who happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, suppressing physical symptoms can lead to a more serious physical disease or a more disturbing mental illness. Using drugs to provide temporary relief does have some type of cost, and the cost is usually a later and more serious ailment.


Homeopathic Treatment of Depression

The Menninger Clinic is world-renowned as one of the leading mental health centers for research and treatment. Most people don't know it, but the founder of the Menninger Clinic, Charles Frederick Menninger, MD, was originally a homeopathic physician. He was even the head of his local homeopathic medicine society and was so frequently impressed with the results that he got from homeopathic medicines, he once said, "Homeopathy is wholly capable of satisfying the therapeutic demands of this age better than any other system or school of medicine." (5)

Numerous studies have shown benefits in using the herb, St. Johns wort, to treat mild to moderate depression. However, homeopaths generally find that it is preferable to prescribe individualized homeopathic remedies to each patient to attain better long-term sustained results without having to take continual doses of any medicine (natural or otherwise). In fact, a recent study published in a medical journal published by Oxford University Press found that individualized homeopathic treatment is as effective and is safer than Prozac in the treatment of people with moderate or severe depression.(6)

This study included 91 outpatients with moderate to severe depression who received an individually chosen homeopathic medicine or fluoxetine (Prozac) 20 mg/day (up to 40 mg/day) in a prospective, randomized, double-blind double-dummy eight week trial. The primary efficacy measure was the mean change in MADRS depression scores (MADRS is a commonly used observer rated depression scale, with a score of 32 representing the "severe depression"). The average MADRS of patients in this study was 29.

The mean MADRS scores differences were not significant on the fourth (p=0.654) and eigth weeks (p=0.965) of treatment, which suggests that the two methods are treatment are equally effective. There were also no significant differences between the percentages of response or remission rates in both groups. The study also found a higher but non-significant percentage of patients treated with Prozac reported troublesome side effects, and there was a trend toward greater treatment interruption for adverse effects in the Prozac group.

Those people who claim to be "skeptics" of homeopathy will be surprised and impressed to know that two specialty medical journals published a double-blind and placebo controlled study on mice and found that one of the medicines in the above study, Gelsemium sempervirens, had anxiety-related effects.(7)(8)

Jonathan Davidson, MD, a professor of psychiatry at Duke University, conducted a small study of adults with major depression, social phobia, or panic disorder. He found that 60 percent of the patients responded favorably to homeopathic treatment.(9) When one recognizes the considerable safety of homeopathic medicines and the benefits that some patients get from this safer method of treatment, it is remarkable that the majority of psychiatrists and psychologists do not yet refer appropriate patients to homeopaths prior to prescribing powerful conventional drugs for them.

A clinical outcome study of interest involved 14 physicians of the United Kingdom's Faculty of Homeopathy (13 NHS GPs and 3 private practitioners) who treated a wide variety of people with chronic ailments.(10) The outcome scores from 958 individual patient conditions having two or more appointments found that 75.9 percent experienced a "positive outcome," 14.7 percent had no change, and 4.6 percent experienced deterioration in health. Patients with the highest positive scores (over 50 percent of patients who self-scored a +2 or +3 on a 7 point Likert scale from -3 to +3) were achieved in the treatment of anxiety, catarrh, colic, cystitis, depression, eczema, irritable bowel syndrome, and PMS. A total of 63.6 percent of patients with depression self-scored a +2 or +3 result from homeopathic treatment.

More information on the homeopathic treatment of mental illness and more scientific evidence verifying its efficacy is contained in a newly published textbook on the subject, Homeopathy and Mental Health Care: Integrative Practice, Principles, and Research .


How NOT to Use Homeopathy for Depression

In early 2010, Alexa Ray Joel, the daughter of singer Billy Joel and actress/model Christy Brinkley, supposedly tried to kill herself by taking a homeopathic medicine, called Traumeel. Anyone with the simply elementary knowledge of homeopathy knows that one cannot commit suicide taking homeopathic medicines due to the extremely small doses in these medicines. Even homeopathy's most ardent skeptics must have had a good laugh at this media report.

After the initial media report about Alexa Ray Joel's suicide attempt, she went public with the fact that she suffered from depression as a result of a break-up in a relationship. And yet, Ms. Joel did not correct the misunderstanding of homeopathic medicine or the assertions made claiming that she (or anyone) could kill themselves with a homeopathic remedy. Sympathy is certainly appropriate for anyone who experiences such emotional trauma from the break-up of a love relationship to consider suicide. However, we should be wary of actions that inappropriately seek to tarnish the reputation of good companies or safe medicines.


Why Homeopathy Makes Sense for Depression

Homeopathic medicines are not prescribed based on the person's diagnosed disease but on the unique way the person experiences his or her disease. In other words, homeopathic medicines are prescribed based on the SYNDROME of various physical and psychological symptoms, not just a single symptom or disease label. Although the selection of the correct homeopathic prescribing is more complex than the use of conventional drugs or even many herbal preparations, the system of prescribing that is individualized to the whole person is intellectually sound... and its results are often significant if not substantial.

The premise behind homeopathy is that symptoms of illness are not just something "wrong" with the person but are actually efforts of their bodymind to fight infection and/or to adapt to stress. Instead of using large doses of pharmacological agents to inhibit or suppress symptoms, very small and specially prepared doses of medicinal substances are individually prescribed to a person for their unique ability to cause in overdose the similar symptoms that the sick person is having. By finding a medicine that matches the symptoms of the sick person, the medicine supports and augments the body's defenses. Ultimately, homeopathy is what Stewart Brand, founder of the Whole Earth Catalog, called "medical aikido" because it goes with, rather than against, the force of the disease. It is also a type of "medical biomimicry."

There is, indeed, much more that could be said about the sophisticated system of healing that homeopathy embodies and on the historical and scientific evidence that verifies its safety and efficacy, but the above information and insights provide a good introduction to why people with mild to moderate depression might be consider seeking professional homeopathic care.

REFERENCES:

(1) Kirsch I, Deacon BJ, Huedo-Medina TB, Scoboria A, Moore TJ, et al. (2008) Initial Severity and Antidepressant Benefits: A Meta-Analysis of Data Submitted to the Food and Drug Administration. PLoS Med 5(2): e45. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045 http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045

(2) Fournier JC, DeRubeis RJ, Hollon SD, Dimidjian S, Amsterdam JD, Shelton RC, Fawcett J. Antidepressant Drug Effects and Depression Severity: A Patient-Level Meta-analysis. JAMA. 2010;303(1):47-53. http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/303/1/47?home

(3) Fontanella CA, Bridge JA, Campo JV. Psychotropic medication changes, polypharmacy, and the risk of early readmission in suicidal adolescent inpatients. Ann Pharmacother. 2009 Dec;43(12):1939-47.

(4) Mojtabai R, Olfson M. National Trends in Psychotropic Medication Polypharmacy in
Office-Based Psychiatry. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2010;67:26-36.

(5) Menninger, C. F. The Application as Well as the Similar, Transactions of the American Institute of Homeopathy, 1896, pp. 317-324.

(6) Adler UC, Paiva NMP, Cesar AT, Adler MS, Molina A, Padula AE, Calil HM. Homeopathic individualized Q-potencies versus fluoxetine for moderate to severe depression: double-blind, randomized non-inferiority trial. Evid Based Complement Alternat Med. 2009 Aug 17. http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

(7) Bellavite P, Magnani P, Zanolin E, Conforti A. Homeopathic Doses of Gelsemium sempervirens Improve the Behavior of Mice in Response to Novel Environments. Evid Based Complement Alternat Med. 2009 Sep 14. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19752165?dopt=Abstract

(8) Magnani P, Conforti A, Zanolin E, Marzotto M, Bellavite P. Dose-effect study of Gelsemium sempervirens in high dilutions on anxiety-related responses in mice. Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2010 Apr 20.

(9) Davidson, J, Morrison, R, Shore, J, et al., Homeopathic Treatment of Depression and Anxiety," Alternative Therapies, January, 1997,3,1:46-49.

(10) Mathie, RT, Robinson, TW. Outcomes from Homeopathic Practice in Medical Practice: A Prospective, Research-Tarageted, Pilot Study, Homeopathy. 2006,95:199-205.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, is America's leading spokesperson for homeopathy and is the founder of www.homeopathic.com . He is the author of 10 books, including his bestseller, Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines. His most recent book is, The Homeopathic Revolution: Why Famous People and Cultural Heroes Choose Homeopathy (the Foreword to this book was written by Dr. Peter Fisher, the Physician to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II). Dana lives, practices, and writes from Berkeley, California.

 
 
 

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Depression lowers the spirits and drowns the eyes in sorrow, though tears aren't the only reason why depressed people sometimes can't see straight. Depression also caves in the chest, slumps the shoul...
Depression lowers the spirits and drowns the eyes in sorrow, though tears aren't the only reason why depressed people sometimes can't see straight. Depression also caves in the chest, slumps the shoul...
 
 
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03:37 AM on 11/23/2010
Mr. Ullman, I appreciate that you continue to try to teach the public on the benefits of natural medicines. An uphill battle right now, but keep up the good work!

I also need to see if you can refer a center for treatment in our area (south orange county, ca) that would help a relative get off bad drugs referred by dr's which have now produced some very serious side effects. Very much the "polypharmacy" that your article refers to and he needs 24/7 care right now. If you can, please have someone contact me. Thank you!
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01:58 PM on 10/22/2010
I am tired of answering the same questions by different skeptics of homeopathy medicine. The whole thing is doing rounds. Why not answer them at a single place like this

http://knol.google.com/k/dr-nancy-malik-bhms/faq-a-on-homeopathy/pocy7w49ru14/11

20 most Frequently Asked Questions & Answers

Q. How homeopathy medicine provides a strong and stable foundation for your health?
Q. What are the preventive medicines in Homeopathy?
Q. What are those 14 good reasons that patients choose Homeopathy medicine over conventional as the choice of medical treatment?
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11:17 AM on 11/14/2010
I bet you are tired. You should be. Promoting this sort of thing is disgusting and must take a lot of energy.
You could turn that energy to study medicine at a real university other than the 'Homoeopathic Medical College and Hospital' that you 'studied' at.
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ChristyRed
08:12 PM on 10/06/2010
Thanks so very much for posting this wonderful article.

Homeopathy has so much to offer to so many, and depression is just one health problem that can be treated safely, effectively and inexpensively with homeopathy.

The many comments posted here by users and practitioners of homeopathy are eloquent testimony to the fact that homeopathy dos not just work but works beautifully. Before finding homeopathy I used conventional drugs. My personal experience is that homeopathy far surpasses what conventional drugs were able to accomplish for me in each and every condition, chronic or acute, I've been treated for.

As usual, this blog, like all your blogs, is a wonderful way of getting the word out. Thanks again!
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Jimserac
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02:06 PM on 10/07/2010
Well said ChistyRed and I concur completely.

Congrats to Dana Ullman for a brilliant article!
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ChristyRed
06:13 PM on 10/07/2010
Thank you! Your comments added considerable weight to the discussion. I'll take this opportunity to note that I mentioned the testimony here of users and practitioners of homeopathy but neglected to mention those who are students. Kudos to students everywhere--so much needed as future practitioners.
06:23 PM on 10/06/2010
Homeopathy is a complete and total fraud. Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who suggest that it can cure depression is guilty of murder should a "patient" commit suicide, and they should be charged with 1st degree murder. Homeopathy is incapable of curing anything. It's just water and water does not have a "memory" for crying out loud. It is woo of the very worst sort and the only thing it does is relieve people of their money, for nothing. Utter and total fraud and te lot of them should be thrown in jail for it.
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01:56 PM on 10/07/2010
Presuppositions of "fraud" or deceit imply a premise that impugns the reputations, motives and intent of perfectly well qualified scientists, MD's, qualified health practitioners in many disciplines who are also successful Homeopathic researchers, practitioners and investigators. Likewise, such a premise implies that the patient is unable to discern what worked from what did not and is easily "fooled" by the "deceit". This is a corporatist view which regards the typical patient as a human "resource" unable to think for itself (yes, I said "itself", that is the corporatist viewpoint in my opinion) and in need of idealogues espousing the heresy of "scientism" to "determine" the best "evidence" based treatment (sic!) for them. BMJ statistics introduced in the responses in this discussion cast serious doubt, along with other information, on the validity of such blatant quasi medical fascism.

Such a premise is false and is to be immediately discounted. Its main promulgators are the ignorant, egotist armchair "scientsts" who believe their mere opinion is better than everyone else's and those who are unwilling or unable to investigate current research indicative of facts which totally refute such ill conceived pseudo skepticism.
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12:18 PM on 10/14/2010
There have been several reviews of various studies of the effectiveness of homeopathic treatments and not one of these reviews concludes that there is good evidence for any homeopathic remedy (HR) being more effective than a placebo. Homeopaths have had over 200 years to demonstrate their wares and have failed to do so. Sure, there are single studies that have found statistically significant differences between groups treated with an HR and control groups, but none of these have been replicated or they have been marred by methodological faults. Two hundred years and we're still waiting for proof! Having an open mind is one thing; waiting forever for evidence is more akin to wishful thinking.
More than 100 studies have failed to come to any definitive positive conclusions about homeopathic potions. Ramey (2000) notes that
"Homeopathy has been the subject of at least 12 scientific reviews, including meta-analytic studies, published since the mid-1980s....[And] the findings are remarkably consistent:....homeopathic "remedies" are not effective."

http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html
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DrNancyMalik
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01:03 PM on 10/04/2010
The available evidence suggests that the hypericum extracts tested in the included trials a) are superior to placebo in patients with major depression; b) are similarly effective as standard antidepressants; c) and have fewer side effects than standard antidepressants. The association of country of origin and precision with effects sizes complicates the interpretation.

Reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18843608
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01:55 PM on 10/04/2010
not very homeopathic is it?
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DrNancyMalik
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02:53 PM on 10/04/2010
Few homeopathy medicines of plant origin in Mother Tincture form shares a common ground with herbal medicine & naturopathy.

What about hypericum in potentised form such as hypericum 3C, hypericum 6C, hypericum 9C, hypericum 12C and ultra-molecular dilutions such as hpericum 30C, hypericum 200C, 1M,etc, which homeopaths used in their clinical practice worldwide
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04:33 PM on 10/04/2010
Fascinating. Thanks for the link.
12:36 AM on 10/04/2010
Depression is not a monolithic condition. The fact that homeopathy recognizes that fact is a point in their favor. Traditional Chinese medicine has had some very good luck treating depression because they recognize that depression comes in many patterns: with insomnia/with a desire to sleep too much, with anxiety/with lethargy, with no appetite/with the desire to eat too much. It's all "depression" in Western medical terms. But each of those "clues" helps an alternative medicine practitioner address what's going on in the patient. I applaud their willingness to focus on the patient not just on the available drugs.

Susan Lynn Peterson
author: Western Herbs for Martial Artists and Contact Athletes
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10:54 AM on 10/04/2010
Very interesting indeed. Many thanks. I'm so glad that traditional Chinese medicine is becoming well established in the West.
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Jimserac
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11:38 AM on 10/04/2010
It is a huge field, I graduated from TCM medical college last year. Luckily, we also got a two semester intro to Homeopathy which I found of such interest that I am compelled to pursue study in that area as well. The botanical information alone expands one's horizons.

The full integration of alternative systems of medicine into the current health infrastructure must inevitably improve quality of life and dramatically lower costs. But that will require major reforms resisted by special interests who hide behind scientism, even despite the BMJ numbers cited by other posters. The continued exposure of their half truths, misrepresentations and convenient memory hole blackouts of relevant information will only accelerate the downfall of their ongoing subversion of public health.
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11:35 PM on 10/03/2010
 BMJ reports nearly 800,000 deaths per year from commercialized, corporate medicine. PER YEAR.

And ChristyRed explains : "We are not drawing conclusions from that report but are reporting the conclusions presented by that report... Denial of the facts does not invalidate those facts. Denial of the facts does not make them disappear."

Spinners can spin but they cannot hide from the truth.




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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
12:09 AM on 10/04/2010
"The Truth" (TM) is always a rather subjective experience.

For example, you 800,000 truth is what most people would tend to consider a lie. Why don't you link to the reference where BMJ reports 800,000 deaths per year due to medicine.
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ChristyRed
12:31 AM on 10/04/2010
You're obsessing. It's been linked to several times already. Aren't there any allopathic drugs for obsession that actually work?
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ChristyRed
12:34 AM on 10/04/2010
World-wide the number could well be more than 800,000.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
06:01 PM on 10/04/2010
With a death rate of about 100 million per year from all causes, that might not be such a big deal. Number of people not dying each year because of efficacious treatment?
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06:30 PM on 10/04/2010
The journal articles state that action by medical professionals is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.

Dr. Robert Mendelsohn (a professor of medicine at the U. of Illinois and a leading physician in that state) dealt with this subject in detail in his classic Confessions of a Medical Heretic.
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ChristyRed
07:57 PM on 10/04/2010
You think that 800,000 dying every year as a result of the medical care they received "might not be such a big deal"?

Hard to get any more callous than that, is it? Number of people surviving each year as a result of homeopathy? Thousands upon thousands.
10:56 PM on 10/03/2010
my first Huff-Post! boo-ya!

this thing completely reads like an advertisement!

i definitely do NOT agree with the Western psychiatric conception and treatment of depression. but this article is not at all focused on the title question, and instead blathers on about why Western medicine sucks and homeopathy is a better treatment. well sure it's a better treatment, the placebo effect is way safer than drugs or ECT.

but homeopathy is probably an inferior treatment to cognitive behavioral therapy, which gives real results (but limited to a minority of cases) and only financial side effects. homeopathy is basically make-believe by my standards.

again, i'm hardly a shill for conventional medicine; any 'authority' stems from a PhD in the biophysical sciences. but i think if you compared witch doctoring and homeopathy in a controlled study you'd find similar efficacy.

ry
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Bike Commuter
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12:36 PM on 10/04/2010
Welcome to HP. I tend to agree. Fanned for the reference to "financial side effects". Too often financial considerations of insurance companies have too much influence on medical treatment.
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Kaviraj
01:04 PM on 10/29/2010
So do those of the Pharmaceutical industry, which want you to take their meds for the rest of your life. Giant scam to bilk money out of the people.
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iblogleft
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10:59 AM on 10/03/2010
I would also have to note that for some(most or all) patients with major depression, I would not recommend coming off medications without strict oversight and constant observation.
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iblogleft
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10:48 AM on 10/03/2010
As long as our system is based on profit margin, there will be few (if any) cures. What is the benefit to cure when one can placate, and extend the sales of medication forever?

There are alternatives, they are just not legal in all states yet.
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
11:17 AM on 10/03/2010
I'm curious. To what diseases are you referring when you suggest that scientists and doctors in the "system" aren't looking to cure. I always find this to be one of most inane arguments in favor of alternative medicine as it shows how little the person actually knows about biology, physiology, and the processes of disease. The suggestions that "cures" simply don't exist because of profits implies that it is easy to cure diseases. Do you have some evidence of cures for diseases that are currently just treated? Or perhaps some ideas how to create these cures?
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iblogleft
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11:26 AM on 10/03/2010
In a system such as ours, just having to ask the question "If we found a cure for diabetes tomorrow, would we ever find out about it?" is extremely telling.

Diabetes is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. To be so naive as to think someone would not want to buy the patent to the cure and stash it away, well... They do call me crazy, so maybe it is just another crazy thought.

What was the last disease we cured?
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iblogleft
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11:28 AM on 10/03/2010
I was referring to alternative treatments when I said "There are alternatives, they are just not legal in all states yet."
12:58 PM on 10/03/2010
A big hole in your argument is that many of the evil people holding back all of these cures actually get the diseases you are referring to - as do their children and other loved ones. Unless you are saying that these people are so evil that they would put profit above their and their loved ones health and even their lives? And don't try and tell us that these evil folks have special clinics and manufacturing facilities so they and their families get the wonderful effective treatments while the rest of us are keep in the dark - that would require far too much tin foil wrapped around your head to allow you to type a response.
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01:06 PM on 10/03/2010
You think the scientists have a choice of what to study and what to follow through on? They do not. They are told what they can do by the corporations that feed them.

They may show something as promising, and lose funding and be told to research another route. It's not some tinfoil theory, it just seems strange too me that we have cured no diseases in 60 years. We have however, prolonged the lives of millions through drug therapy.
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Kaviraj
05:30 AM on 10/31/2010
No they are not evil. They are ignorant about cures. They admit so themselves when they declare the disease incurable. That means simply "I don't know how to cure them."
01:32 AM on 10/03/2010
Dana,

As a moderator I assume you have the ability to remove posts. Did you happen to remove your own post asserting that Cable claimed that alternative medicine was the cause of the BMJ links findings? Instead of retracting it publicly and apologizing for your incorrect assertion, or did you go the route of removing it to avoid apologizing or acknowledging your mistake?
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ChristyRed
09:55 AM on 10/03/2010
Did you?

No "incorrect assertion" was made by anyone other than cable.......live, love, laugh and ignore him.....good advice today just as it was yesterday !

Thank you for coming. Bless !!!!
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
07:02 PM on 10/03/2010
It simply could have been removed for violation of the comment policy.
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ForVivi
Another button, another buttonhole.
10:52 PM on 10/02/2010
"A recent study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found over 40 percent of the best designed, peer-reviewed scientific papers published in the world's top medical journals misrepresented the actual findings of the research.(i) The "spin doctors" writing the papers found a way to show treatments worked, when in fact, they didn't."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dangerous-spin-doctors-7-_b_747325.html
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11:03 PM on 10/02/2010
Do you realize that you just brought into question a very large portion of the information that homeopathy supporters claim supports their point of view?
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12:39 AM on 10/03/2010
I'm the first one to want good testing for homeopathy. You and I know the following:

"Comparing pharmaceutical treatments to lifestyle or integrated approaches to health is even more dangerous, lest we find that lifestyle treatment for heart disease and diabetes which cost our health care system $750 billion a year works better and costs less than drugs and surgery and has good side effects such as improved quality of life. Unfortunately, in our health care system, business trumps science every time."
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10:56 PM on 10/03/2010
how so? findings on homeopathy could easily be misrepresented to show it doesn't work as easily as showing it does work...just depends on the pre-conceived outcome requirement...
01:02 PM on 10/03/2010
A recent study by the British Science and Technology Committee found that Homeopathy was totally fake - 100% nonsense. At least the conventional medical community gets it right 60% of the time.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-archive/science-technology/s-t-homeopathy-inquiry/
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01:45 PM on 10/03/2010
More like 11%. See ForViviv's earlier post Meanwhile, conventional medicine is the 3rd highest cause of death in the US. Again see the earlier posts on this.
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05:44 PM on 10/03/2010
"EDM 908[1] is an early day motion in the UK Parliament, tabled by David Tredinnick MP (Conservative) on February 23, 2010, objecting to the recent Science and Technology Select Committee Report on Homeopathy. The list of MPs who have signed is regarded by skeptics as the stupid list. And David Colquhoun, Professor of Pharmacology at University College London, has called it a "handy list of dimwitted members of parliament"."
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06:32 PM on 10/02/2010
Just thought of something. Could we not be depressed because we are so ready to truly honor ourselves and stop being the test rats for pharma and other medical practices?

Case in point, women have endured mammograms to our detriment when there is a less hurtful and very effective way of testing. I've been using Thermascans for years but have trouble finding doctors who are willing to accept them for no reason other than it is new to them and they are afraid of law suits.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/how-not-to-mash-your-breasts.html
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08:45 PM on 10/03/2010
"Case in point, women have endured mammograms to our detriment when there is a less hurtful and very effective way of testing. I've been using Thermascans for years but have trouble finding doctors who are willing to accept them for no reason other than it is new to them and they are afraid of law suits."

Try MRI mammography. No radiation, hasn't been proven harmful and doctors will accept them. They can be hard to find especially in rural areas.
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05:52 PM on 10/02/2010
Pharma does do some solid testing on humans:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/02/us-syphilis-experiments-i_n_747988.html
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10:59 PM on 10/03/2010
yeah, well that was back when researchers had some integrity...snark off...
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09:05 PM on 10/01/2010
Homeopathy --- the choice of medical care only when there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. When you are really sick or injured you go to a real doctor for science based diagnostics and treatment.
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09:08 PM on 10/01/2010
...and pray you don't get poisoned or taken for a nice long ride to the morgue.

I'm all for science-based medicine, not corporate-based medicine.
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05:35 PM on 10/02/2010
There is no such thing as "corporate based medicine". Corporations exist to increase share holders value (the stock holders), without which NO ONE in this country would be able to retire. Corporate managers make financial based decisions while some of the stake holders in that corporation make decisions based on safety, for example pilots at an airline, or efficacy of treatment in the case of doctors who are employees at a corporate owned hospital. Often times these decisions are in opposition to each other to a degree. Safety and efficacy decisions are also supplemented and controlled by government regulation - like the working hours for pilots or the sterilization procedures for doctors and health care workers.
The reason that homeopaths (I laugh every time I say that word) cannot do much harm because they are not allowed to prescribe medication or do invasive medical procedures. As a side note -- in Canada their are more Homeopaths, Chiropractors, Essential Oil Therapists and other quacks and snake oil salesman than anywhere in the world.
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06:05 PM on 10/02/2010
You may have a point there. If I understand it right homeopathy works on the premise that some chronic or fatal illnesses begins as an imbalance which mainstream medicine treats in a way that suppresses rather than resolves the issues. Unable for the imbalance to come out through the skin as a mere rash, it is pushed in deeper and manifests as a more serious illness (see studies on cortisone-treated eczema connection with asthma). Likewise, by the time a person develops cancer or insanity, the individual has been deaf to the cries from the body have been misunderstood, suppressed and then silenced. Obviously there are many types of cancers and many causes, so I don't need anyone to get remedial with me and say: "what about little children who get cancer?".

Those who are able to go beyond the present paradigms and acknowledge the physical-emotional-mental-spiritual connections understand that homeopathy and, for that matter, the placebo effect are valid and most desirable if they get the job done with the least harm to the individual.
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03:26 AM on 10/03/2010
Standing on one's head for an hour would be ok if it got the job done as you say, but it does not and neither does homeopathy. Many so-called alternative therapies are efficacious and should be considered seriously both by physicians and the patient, after doing thorough research, but there is no legitimate evidence that homeopathy works. To contend that it is effective for any disease or medical condition is to be culpably irresponsible and only serves to divert the patient from a course of treatment that at least has a solid basis in science and medicine and which may well treat or cure his or her condition. The simplistic notion that medical professionals do not recognize a connection between the physiological, psychological, and metaphysical components of a patient is laughable and to presume that homeopathy somehow operates on this level is nonsense.
12:50 PM on 10/03/2010
Homeopathy works on the principle of diluting a substance to the point that many of the 'treatments' no longer contain any of the original substance. Really - it is all gone. The Homeopaths tell you that the 'essence' of the substance remains and that is what is 'treating' the patient. There is a lot of money in healthcare and the Homeopaths want some, plain and simple.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-archive/science-technology/s-t-homeopathy-inquiry/